Fitnfirm

Hi Crowler

Hey, where can you buy those chips to use in other baking recipes? I cannot find them locally or on the web Are you making them one at a time in your little elf shop?

THEKING

yes please make those lol

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skelooth

To the best of my knowledge I believe it is unsweetned baker's chocolate that has been sweetened with sucralose.

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CROWLER

LOL at FnF

Sorry don't know where you can buy them locally. I have to buy them 500lbs at a time and have them trucked in.


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Fitnfirm

Holy cow!!!!!! You are the chocolate chip man!!!!! I bet it smells good there

skelooth

holy crap, 500lbs of chocolate chips LOL!

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Frank_the_tank

Is that just for Mr Aries' order?

Arghlita

Can we buy them from you? I had the same issue with the chips - I can't find anything about them anywhere online.

davtown

FnF, just buy 500lbs worth and have it trucked in! You know you want to

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CROWLER

Hi Arghilita,

Thank you for the request.

We are not currently set up to do this as the chips are at one location for formulation of the product and are shipped out of another place so it would be double the truck charges. But who knows I will check into this.


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madman911

Not made by Hershey's, but no sugar; splenda sweetened:

http://www23.netrition.com/ewbw_chocolate_chips.html

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Hey if people want to pay $3.89 for 8 ounces of the chips I am HAPPY to do that


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Arghlita

Pretty much, since that way I can use it for other cooking projects and completely control the macros. I envisions spicing up my super fiborous meals with a sprinkle of healthy chocolate. Your cookie mix is certainly a great idea, but as you can see from my pancake experiments I would do better with plain protein powder, flax seed and chips separately and I'm more than willing to pay you $8 per pound for something I can't find anywhere else (other than buying 500lbs or buying from an unknown merchant - I like buying hershey's from you better).

Fitnfirm

Why dont you tell me where the truck is and Ill help myself

skelooth

what's wrong with unsweetned chocolate from the supermarket? Are you unaware that unsweetened chocolate is extremely healthy for you? You can melt it down in a double boiler with some form of sweetner and some milk to make milk chocolate if that's what you desire. There's no secret to 'healthy' chocolate when chocolate it's self is already very healthy!

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Arghlita

Skelooth, do you cook a lot with chocolate? I ask seriously, because chocolate chips made with healthy oils and splenda are a far shot from unsweetened chocolate in the super market in terms of uses. In order to use chocolate chips in a recipe, I'd have to buy the unsweetened chocolate, melt it, sweeten it with splenda myself, form it into hundreds of chips, cool it on racks in my non-existant industrial fridge and then try to use it all. Perhaps it seems monumentally lazy to you, but since I do not own a candy thermometer, a double boiler, 20 cookie sheets and an industrial size fridge I'm inclined to pay someone else to turn unsweetened chocolate into Splenda sweetened chocolate chips for me.

If I wanted to make chocolate milk instead of baked goods, I would buy one of the large number of sugar free mixes or syrups available for that purpose. Or if I really wanted to make it myself I suppose I could use Hershey's powdered cocoa and add Splenda. Melting unsweetened chocolate in a double boiler (which I still don't own), adding Splenda and gradually adding warm milk to it while carefully controlling the temperature of both (which is the only way that would turn into chocolate milk and not chocolate chunks floating in milk) is about the most complicated way I can think of to accomplish chocolate milk.

Yes, unsweetened chocolate is already healthy but the act of turning into a form usable for baking would require a ****ton of effort and many major purchases on my part. And most of that wouldn't result in already sweetened chocolate chips.

skelooth

Milk Chocolate, not chocolate milk dear. Most of the sweetened chocolate we eat in america is milk chocolate.... ie, it has milk and or cream mixed in.

Here we go, recipe for chocolate chips...

Put hefty portion of unsweetned natural baker's chocolate in double boiler, melt it down with a pinch of sweetner, and if you want a splash of cream or milk. Spread evenly over 1/4" deep sprayed wax paper covered cookie sheet/tray so that you have a thin layer of chocolate maybe 1/8" thick.

Cool it, stick it in the fridge, whatever.

Crumble up it up.

POOF chocolate chips.

That's less effort than your pancake recipe. You and I must come from two very different culinary schools. Recipes no matter what the product should always be 'simple and infallable' at the core. Anything else that's added is only flavoring to a base.

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Arghlita

Skelooth - have you ever made milk chocolate? Actually made it, not in theory but in practice? Anything that involves a double boiler and a candy thermometer - which your recipe does - is out of my reach given the equipment I have. I made a mistake in my response, however that is not how you make milk chocolate anyway. Milk chocolate means chocolate where most or all of the cocoa butter has been replaced by dairy fat - unsweetened chocolate bars already have cocoa butter in them so in order to make *actual* milk chocolate you would start with cocoa powder and some form of condensed milk. One reason these chocolate chips are so special is that cocoa and dairy fat have been replaced with healthy oils - at least, that's the claim as I understand it. I don't think my kitchen actually can replicate that process.

As for my pancake recipe, I'm still developing it. I shared the first version that produced something a non-lifter would be willing to eat because I said I would, not so you could intuit my cooking skill from it. If you were to go to an actual kitchen and follow my actual recipe, you'd find that it was less complicated, messy and time consuming than what you are recommending. Have you cleaned a double boiler after making candy in it?

The final version probably won't involve cooked oatmeal, however, it also won't involve a double boiler and a candy thermometer and separate saucepan. Just a nonstick skillet, a fork, and one bowl. I challenge you to explain how that is on par with making candy in terms of complexity.

The problem I'm having here is you appear to be challenging my practice with your theory. That's why I'm asking if you've actually done these things, not to be sarcastic but to question before assuming.

Frank_the_tank

A double boiler can be made with 2 pots and a stove. You fill one pot with water and then put it on the stove to boil. An additional (smaller) pot is placed over the pot of boiling water. Thats all a "double boiler" is. Candy thermometers can be purchased at a local supermarket or a dollar store.

Instead of making individual chips, I think it would be much easier to make bars the size of butter. You could use a mold for this or a casserole pan. But with the casserole pan you would have to cut and wrap them (in wax paper) before they had completely solidified. You could make a massive batch and stick the bars in the freezer.

In order to make chips you would just beat them with a mallet or "shave" off the pieces you wanted.

Arghlita

Once again, this is excellent theory and I *could* do that if I wanted to however... buying chocolate chips from someone else is simpler and cheaper and there's no reason this decision should be second-guessed on a thread dedicated to purchasing said chips from the merchant running this sub forum.

In theory I have the knowledge necessary to change my car's oil, but in practice my time is worth more than it costs to have someone do it for me. I could go out and get a drip tray and a stronger jack and change it myself because no, it isn't *that* complicated. However, it simply isn't worth my time and there's really no reason for a stranger to question these decisions.

Given the choice between spending $8 for a pound of chocolate chips and the following:

Buying a candy thermometer
Making my electric stove produce even heat (yes I realize the double boiler helps but we are talking about burners where I have to constantly rotate the pan to cook a simple omlette)
Rigging a double boiler from my tiny selection of pots and pans
Melting chocolate and figuring out how to remove the cocoa butter and replace it with healthy oil - not even sure I could do this at all
Cooling it into a mold or tray
Breaking it into pieces

...I chose to inquire about purchasing the chocolate chips.

I have nothing against people who have the time and energy to pursue experiments in the kitchen and I've done it myself. It isn't the cost of equipment that is preventing me from pursuing making my own candy but the fact that this is reinventing the wheel. I enjoy reinventing the wheel sometimes - see pancake recipe - but not this time. I have made candy before and it is an intensive process that involves lots of cleaning and lots of precision and sometimes an extra pair of hands. One of my closest friends is researching starting her own candy company out of her kitchen (she refuses to mess with sugar-free otherwise I'd just ask her about doing this) so I am very familiar with the equipment used both privately and comercially (and there is an enormous difference in quality between the candy thermometer she uses and a two dollar jobby as there is between a rigged out pan set up and a real double boiler - the extra steam ruins the chemistry of almost every type of candy) and I challenge anyone who thinks this is in any way "easy" to produce chocolate chips as good as the ones being discussed here and I will buy them from you. I don't even care how you do it, just why are you telling me how easy it would be for ME to do it?

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