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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 25 | strong overhead pressing! it looks like the shoulders/tris are strong. if i were you, i think i'd quit the flat bench for a bit and focus on incline bar/incline db/decline bar for a bit. i think that should bring up the chest and when you switch back to flat, you might surprise yourself. |
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 186 | Alright here is the plan, tell me what you think... Doing another chest day this Sunday I will superset Incline and Decline Press, then do Incline Presses and then Incline Flyes Then again Next thursday, this time I'm going to be doing the flat bench for the very last time in a long time. The week after I will take off chest day but work everything else, the reason is because a few weeks ago I only had the oppurtunity to do chest day. Then after that while I am on my major Game Over diet, I won't be able to gain any strength but I will stick to doing everything but flat bench, I'll do flat dumbbells and flyes every now and then, but mostly stick to incline/decline.. I am debating whether I should cut until November, then take pics it will be my official 1 year, so I can SEA the transformation. Or whether I should cut so that I am not so fat anymore lol, and then gain my strength, so I can FEEL my transformation and go for the strength increase. It will either be 2 1/2 months of cutting or 3 1/2, 3 1/2 would look much nicer but 2 1/2 would be more fun and I can finally get that 225 down that has been bothering me for so long. Also when I get into the next bulk I'll continue avoiding flat bench for 2 weeks, then get into it again, I don't know if staying off it will do me any good while cutting...should I even bother not doing it while cutting? Or maybe I should go a month of bulking without it as well.
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 186 | Shoulders + Arms Military Press 95x8 135x6 140x5 DB Military 60x5 60x5 65x4 That's all I did for shoulders, I'm going to get off the BB Military for a while. Arms, week 2: light day Preacher Curls + Skullcrushers 60x8 + 60x10 60x10 + 60x12 60x8 + 60x8 (slow) Incline DB Curls + BB Overhead Extension 20x10 + 60x10 20x10 + 60x12 (forgot to do 12 on curls hehe) Hammer Curls + One Arm Reverse Cable Pushdowns 25x10 + 50x10 25x12 + 50x12
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 186 | Back day Deadlift 135x8 225x5 275x3 315x2 (second one was pretty crappy) Bent-Over Rows 135x8 155x8 175x6 Shrugs Felt weak... 135x8 225x6 315x3 -> 225x5 -> 135x8 (225 and 135 with pauses) Lat Pulldown 140x8 150x6 150x6 Abs Superset with Hanging Crunches and Bench reverse crunches 3x8 + 3x8
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 186 | It's been a little while, I haven't updated but I have been working out! Here is a brief overview, because I don't remember it all... Chest day Flat Bench for the last time for maybe 3-4 months. 135x5 155x5 165x5 175x5 185x3 Dumbbell Presses, I forgot what I did but I believe it was 80x4 on the last set. Dumbbell Flyes ended with 55x5. (a little closer than what I sea most people doing, more comfortable and I don't feel like I am going to lose my shoulders and elbows.) Arm routine after...(the week 1 of last time, same weights, heavy day) Leg Day Squat 135x8 185x8 225x8 245x5 My first good squat day! Leg press 180x8 270x8 320x8 (I think..) Then Hamstring machine, calf machine, and db calf raises Shoulders Military Press (also for the last time for a long time...) 95x8 135x6 145x4 Dumbbell overhead press 50x8 60x5 70x2 (PR, I failed 70's last time I attempted which was 3-4 weeks earlier) 3 sets of lateral raises, then dropset on set 3 same with front raises... got up to 30 on lateral but my form got crappy after 4-5 reps. Light arm day, week 2's routine Back DL 135x8 225x6 275x6 (number might be innacurate because I wasn't counting I was lifting it over and over to show someone how to do it.) BB Rows 135x8x2 135x10 shrugs 225x8 315x6 (ran out of energy lol) Now weakened... Lat Pulldown 140x8 150x6 160x6 Now weakened badly... DB Rows 65x8x2 (it was hard as hell, and if you look before I lift much heavier on this) Hanging Reverse Crunch x8x2 x8x1 supersetted with lying reverse crunch x8
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 186 | Saturday (last workout I did before falling sick...and I'm going to take this week off and then take chest off next week as well.) This was a good chest day too, I think at least. Decline Press 135x8 185x5 225x1+1 (whole workout was a huge jump but I wanted to have energy and do 225) Incline Press 135x8 155x5 165x5 (PR enough getting 165x5 instead of 4, plus it was after doing decline heavier than ever) Incline DB Press 50x8 60x8 70x5 (I am pretty certain about this set, but the 2 previous sets may be off on reps and/or weight, for some reason I can't recall) Pullovers 70x8 90x5 Skullcrushers + Close-Grip BP 100x3 + 100x6 (A little too much for skullcrushers) 80x8 + 80x8 DB Overhead Extension + Kickbacks 60x8 + 35x5 70x5 + 35x5 Now the day after the workout I wasn't sick, but Monday I caught a fever, lost about 4-5lbs by yesterday and I am just going to rest up and I'll find out how catabolic I became, BUT I did eat a lot and my right upper chest, near the sternum, was always tiny as hell, easily noticeably smaller than my left, but after the last 2 chest workouts I physically felt a difference in the size of it. It's barely smaller than my left now which is good news. Anyway, I will be transitioning slowly into the Game Over cut diet by Scivation, as I get food and a weight measurer for food, and during the rest, then my routine will go through a big change, and I will shed this disgusting layer of fat I put on.
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 25 | nice numbers on the pressing. hope you're feeling better soon. |
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 186 | Thanks man, I don't have a fever anymore but this headache is killing me and my nose is running like niagra falls, and I'm coughing like a 12 gauge double barrel shotgun on berserk mode...(yes exaggeration)
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 186 | I recieved my Ironmind CoC #1 about 2 weeks ago, and I could max it once on my right hand and not even once on my left. Now I can do about 10 on my right, but I'm not sure if I touched every single one, and I can max it on my right...This thing is cool as hell I can't stop using it, actually I probably overtrain because I use it so much. Here is one rep, with a full close with it..Once I can rep it smoothly to about 15 or so I'll post a full video. ![]() Damn it doesn't look like it is touching...but it is, I could feel the grind.
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 186 | ![]() Now I think you can tell, you can also clearly see it is a 1 now, I almost ordered the trainer but since I worked forearms anyway I was pretty sure I could do the 1. I worked with forced reps for a few days until I could do it normally for reps on my right hand.
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 186 | ![]() Shot with GZ-MG130 at 2007-07-31 ![]() Shot with GZ-MG130 at 2007-07-31 Alright here are my crappy bulk pics...I'll post new ones in 2 months.
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0 | XiL3 kicks ass. :mango::mango::mango::mango: |
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 186 | Alright guys, I was taking off from lifting 2 weeks ago, I had a crappy lifting week last week, but now I feel better and I'll post my lifts again. Decided to replace Military Press with Hang Clean and Jerks while cutting. I figure I can actually improve on these even while cutting, and I also added snatches in...but my form isn't good on either, I'm still a beginner on this. Hang Clean + Jerk 10kg bumpers. 89x8 89x8 109x6 Dumbbell Military Press 30x10 50x8 60x8 Snatches (form is pretty crappy) 89x3 89x3 Lateral Raises 20x10x3 30 mins elliptical Maintained 135 heart rate for most of the time, went as high as 150 and as low as 120. Level 1 Warmup Level 8 about 38-40 rpm to maintain heart rate. Level 12 about 30 rpm to maintain heart rate
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