powerman's Mango training log - Page 7

**Peaked_18** · 08-24-2006, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

Nobody.

I don't know who to see. I don't want to waste my time going to a regular MD who won't know anything about such an injury or how to rehab it.

If you happen to know a sports injury person here in Denver then speak up bro.

http://www.arpprogram.com/arptrainer/index.html

See if there is a clinic near you, they might be able to help. Read the information on their website to see if they can help you out.

**bubba g** · 08-25-2006, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerman2000

Nobody.

I don't know who to see. I don't want to waste my time going to a regular MD who won't know anything about such an injury or how to rehab it.

If you happen to know a sports injury person here in Denver then speak up bro.

An orthopedic doctor will know in 2 seconds weather it is torn, or ruptured etc. just by touching it.. they will probably send you for an MRI to confirm their findings.. a rupture, or a mild tear, and it will most likely heal itself, but a larger tear, and you could find yourself waiting a couple months hoping for it to heal only to find out you needed surgery to repair it...

I go to my primary care doctor, and she sends me to whatever specialist I need to go to. I am fortunate that I live near New England orthopedics. they have a lot of really great doctors. that deal with only specific areas. for example, one doc deals only with hands, another doctor deals with wrist , etc.

**powerman2000** · 08-25-2006, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubba g

An orthopedic doctor will know in 2 seconds weather it is torn, or ruptured etc. just by touching it.. they will probably send you for an MRI to confirm their findings.. a rupture, or a mild tear, and it will most likely heal itself, but a larger tear, and you could find yourself waiting a couple months hoping for it to heal only to find out you needed surgery to repair it...

I go to my primary care doctor, and she sends me to whatever specialist I need to go to. I am fortunate that I live near New England orthopedics. they have a lot of really great doctors. that deal with only specific areas. for example, one doc deals only with hands, another doctor deals with wrist , etc.

I can tell now by touching it that I don't have a tear large enough to require any surgery. It's been just 1 week ago today that it happened and at the rate it's healing and feeling less sore I think I should be ok in a few more weeks. I'm just going to be very nervous about it once I start using it in the gym again.

I need to decide where the heck I am going to start up my training again.

**bubba g** · 08-25-2006, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerman2000

I can tell now by touching it that I don't have a tear large enough to require any surgery. It's been just 1 week ago today that it happened and at the rate it's healing and feeling less sore I think I should be ok in a few more weeks. I'm just going to be very nervous about it once I start using it in the gym again.

I need to decide where the heck I am going to start up my training again.

I was nervous about my bicep for a little while, and to be honest I can still tell that it was injured, but there is no "pain" there. It just feels a little different than the other side.. My ortho told me that it would take a lot to reinjure the spot, and pretty much told me it is as strong as the other side. I can curl more now than I could when I injured it.

**powerman2000** · 08-25-2006, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubba g

I was nervous about my bicep for a little while, and to be honest I can still tell that it was injured, but there is no "pain" there. It just feels a little different than the other side.. My ortho told me that it would take a lot to reinjure the spot, and pretty much told me it is as strong as the other side. I can curl more now than I could when I injured it.

Bro, you don't know how much better that makes me feel hearing that.

**powerman2000** · 08-29-2006, 08:55 AM

Here is a current pic of the damage taken about 2 hours ago.

**powerman2000** · 08-29-2006, 09:07 AM

I did go to the gym tonight. Here is what I decided that I should do to work around my injury until it heals.

Monday 8/28/06

BB Squats (5x5- 255lbs)

BB Military Press (95x5, 115x5, 135x5, 155x5, 175x5)

BB Rows (105x5, 125x5, 140x5, 160x5, 175x5)

Hyper Exts (2x8- 25lbs)
Seated Calves (4x8- 135lbs)
Cybex Ab Crunches (4x8- 120lbs)

I decided to start the 5x5 over again and replace the bench and incline presses with military presses. It all went well.

I found that I could not use the Nautilus ab machine that I normally do because it hurt my injury too much. I'm referring to the ab machine that has one's hands gripping the handles up by your head. That angle put a lot of stress on the injury so I switched machines. The ab machine I was able to use has a bar across your chest that you lean forward against into a crunched position.

**bubba g** · 08-30-2006, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

Here is a current pic of the damage taken about 2 hours ago.

It looked better in the first photo....

another week, and all the bruising will probably be gone...

**powerman2000** · 08-31-2006, 06:49 AM

Wednesday 8/30/06

I tweaked things around a bit. Some because I want to and some because I have to from the injury. I definitely can't complain about my ability to continue lifting with the injury and all.

BB Military Press (5x5- 135lbs) seated

BB Squats (5x5- 205lbs) raw and a narrow stance about 8" wide

Deadlifts (5x5- 315lbs) raw

HammerStrength
Pulldowns-Front Grip (5x5- 230lbs)

Deadlifts were still done in a stop-n-go fashion rather than a touch-n-go. I wasn't sure how deads would affect my injury and I'm happy to report that I felt no affects. I was supposed to do wide grip cable pulldowns, but I instantly realized that my injury would prevent me from doing that particular movement when I grabbed the bar and sat down on the seat. I could definitely feel a lot of pressure and pulling on my chest near my arm pit. I didn't even try one repetition. I just knew better. That's why I went to the HammerStrength pulldown instead, which felt ok to do. Overall, a very good and very cautious workout. I even tested my bicep with some very light bicep curls with a barbell.

BB Curls 20lbsx30, 30lbsx20, 40lbsx15

I know it was ridiculously light, but I was being cautious and I'm also happy to say that the test went well. No pain.

DarkFalcon · 08-31-2006, 07:03 AM

Bro that doesn't look like something you should ignore and hope it get's better on it's own. Next heavy lift could turn into an EME incident if there is already damage.

**powerman2000** · 08-31-2006, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Bro that doesn't look like something you should ignore and hope it get's better on it's own. Next heavy lift could turn into an EME incident if there is already damage.

What makes you think that I'm ignoring it?

I know I have some pretty good trauma there and I also know it's not a serious pec tear. It's feeling a little better every day and I'm going to be cautious and play things by ear.

What would you have me do? Stop lifting altogether?

I don't need a doctor to tell me that it doesn't require surgery. I know it doesn't.

**powerman2000** · 09-03-2006, 06:49 AM

Friday 9/1/06

BB Military (5x5- 135lbs)

BB Squats (165x5, 195x5, 225x5, 250x5, 275x5) Raw

BB Rows (5x5- 150lbs)

Standing Tricep overhead exts (3x8- 65lbs) ez curl bar
BB Curls (3x8- 70lbs)
Cybex Machine Ab Crunch (4x8- 120lbs)
Seated Calves (4x8- 135lbs)

I'm still planning on training for that Colorado Regional Powerlifting meet this November. It's the weekend before Thanksgiving. Even if my bench press sucks due to the injury, I can still have a good deadlift and squat. I'll post another pic of the bruise next week.

**powerman2000** · 09-05-2006, 05:47 AM

Monday 9/4/06

BB Military Press (105x5, 125x5, 145x5, 165x5, 185x5) seated

BB Squats (5x5- 285lbs) raw, atg

BB Rows (110x5, 130x5, 150x5, 165x5, 185x5)

Hyper Extensions (2x8- 35lbs) plate held behind my head
Cybex Machine Ab Crunch (4x8- 125lbs)
Seated Calves (4x8- 145lbs)

DarkFalcon · 09-05-2006, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerman2000

What makes you think that I'm ignoring it?

I know I have some pretty good trauma there and I also know it's not a serious pec tear. It's feeling a little better every day and I'm going to be cautious and play things by ear.

What would you have me do? Stop lifting altogether?

I don't need a doctor to tell me that it doesn't require surgery. I know it doesn't.

How the heck can you know that? Not even a doctor can tell if the tendons have started to come off the bone without X-ray. It's great your getting better but most serious injuries start with a minor one, so an ounce of prevention can be worth it's weight in gold.

**powerman2000** · 09-07-2006, 06:25 AM

Wednesday 9/6/06

BB Military Press (5x5- 155lbs) seated

Deadlifts (5x5- 355lbs) stop-n-go every rep

BB Squats (5x5- 225lbs)

HammerStrength Pulldown-Front (5x5- 270lbs)

So far, so good with not having any issues with the injury.

08-29-2006, 08:55 AM	#186
powerman2000 The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,245 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 203	Here is a current pic of the damage taken about 2 hours ago. __________________ Don't forget to periodize Best BP 507 lbs competitive Best Squat 705 lbs competitive Best DL 650 lbs competitive Guns don't kill people, men who come home early do. My workout log http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6247

08-29-2006, 09:07 AM	#187
powerman2000 The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,245 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 203	Back in the gym again I did go to the gym tonight. Here is what I decided that I should do to work around my injury until it heals. Monday 8/28/06 BB Squats (5x5- 255lbs) BB Military Press (95x5, 115x5, 135x5, 155x5, 175x5) BB Rows (105x5, 125x5, 140x5, 160x5, 175x5) Hyper Exts (2x8- 25lbs) Seated Calves (4x8- 135lbs) Cybex Ab Crunches (4x8- 120lbs) I decided to start the 5x5 over again and replace the bench and incline presses with military presses. It all went well. I found that I could not use the Nautilus ab machine that I normally do because it hurt my injury too much. I'm referring to the ab machine that has one's hands gripping the handles up by your head. That angle put a lot of stress on the injury so I switched machines. The ab machine I was able to use has a bar across your chest that you lean forward against into a crunched position. __________________ Don't forget to periodize Best BP 507 lbs competitive Best Squat 705 lbs competitive Best DL 650 lbs competitive Guns don't kill people, men who come home early do. My workout log http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6247

08-31-2006, 06:49 AM	#189
powerman2000 The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,245 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 203	Wednesday 8/30/06 I tweaked things around a bit. Some because I want to and some because I have to from the injury. I definitely can't complain about my ability to continue lifting with the injury and all. BB Military Press (5x5- 135lbs) seated BB Squats (5x5- 205lbs) raw and a narrow stance about 8" wide Deadlifts (5x5- 315lbs) raw HammerStrength Pulldowns-Front Grip (5x5- 230lbs) Deadlifts were still done in a stop-n-go fashion rather than a touch-n-go. I wasn't sure how deads would affect my injury and I'm happy to report that I felt no affects. I was supposed to do wide grip cable pulldowns, but I instantly realized that my injury would prevent me from doing that particular movement when I grabbed the bar and sat down on the seat. I could definitely feel a lot of pressure and pulling on my chest near my arm pit. I didn't even try one repetition. I just knew better. That's why I went to the HammerStrength pulldown instead, which felt ok to do. Overall, a very good and very cautious workout. I even tested my bicep with some very light bicep curls with a barbell. BB Curls 20lbsx30, 30lbsx20, 40lbsx15 I know it was ridiculously light, but I was being cautious and I'm also happy to say that the test went well. No pain. __________________ Don't forget to periodize Best BP 507 lbs competitive Best Squat 705 lbs competitive Best DL 650 lbs competitive Guns don't kill people, men who come home early do. My workout log http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6247

09-03-2006, 06:49 AM	#192
powerman2000 The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,245 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 203	Friday 9/1/06 BB Military (5x5- 135lbs) BB Squats (165x5, 195x5, 225x5, 250x5, 275x5) Raw BB Rows (5x5- 150lbs) Standing Tricep overhead exts (3x8- 65lbs) ez curl bar BB Curls (3x8- 70lbs) Cybex Machine Ab Crunch (4x8- 120lbs) Seated Calves (4x8- 135lbs) I'm still planning on training for that Colorado Regional Powerlifting meet this November. It's the weekend before Thanksgiving. Even if my bench press sucks due to the injury, I can still have a good deadlift and squat. I'll post another pic of the bruise next week. __________________ Don't forget to periodize Best BP 507 lbs competitive Best Squat 705 lbs competitive Best DL 650 lbs competitive Guns don't kill people, men who come home early do. My workout log http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6247

09-05-2006, 05:47 AM	#193
powerman2000 The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,245 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 203	Monday 9/4/06 BB Military Press (105x5, 125x5, 145x5, 165x5, 185x5) seated BB Squats (5x5- 285lbs) raw, atg BB Rows (110x5, 130x5, 150x5, 165x5, 185x5) Hyper Extensions (2x8- 35lbs) plate held behind my head Cybex Machine Ab Crunch (4x8- 125lbs) Seated Calves (4x8- 145lbs) __________________ Don't forget to periodize Best BP 507 lbs competitive Best Squat 705 lbs competitive Best DL 650 lbs competitive Guns don't kill people, men who come home early do. My workout log http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6247

08-31-2006, 07:03 AM	#190
DarkFalcon I've got a RAGING clue! Join Date: May 2005 Location: dnyc99's cleaning staff Posts: 11,511 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 299	Bro that doesn't look like something you should ignore and hope it get's better on it's own. Next heavy lift could turn into an EME incident if there is already damage.

09-07-2006, 06:25 AM	#195
powerman2000 The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,245 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 203	Wednesday 9/6/06 BB Military Press (5x5- 155lbs) seated Deadlifts (5x5- 355lbs) stop-n-go every rep BB Squats (5x5- 225lbs) HammerStrength Pulldown-Front (5x5- 270lbs) So far, so good with not having any issues with the injury. __________________ Don't forget to periodize Best BP 507 lbs competitive Best Squat 705 lbs competitive Best DL 650 lbs competitive Guns don't kill people, men who come home early do. My workout log http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6247

09-10-2006, 07:32 AM	#196
powerman2000 The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,245 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 203