Re: AX Herbal Hypertrophic- Unofficial FAQ

**MASSIVE** · 02-21-2006, 08:14 PM

I have gathered many questions that have been posted on the forums and that have been emailed to AX over the past few months. Please note that this is a new product and that we are doing our best to give you the most accurate response regarding Herbal Hypertrophic. We hope to accomplish much knowledge over the testing that we begin next week.
Please list / post / email any questions and / or comments you have about our product, we can't promise to give you an immediate response, so we ask for your patience.

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-Q) Will we need ANY supporting supplements, such as Policosanol, Hawthorn, Red yeast rice etc?

Not needed with Herbal Hypertrophic.

-Q) Do the same rules apply, time on = time off?

Time on = time off. Correct.

-Q) WHAT?! No negative effects on the liver or lipids?!
I'm 17 years old, can I take HH?

No, intended for those 21 yrs. of age and older.

-Q) Will there be any experimentations with the dosing?

Dosing is final right now. Depending on the results we may tweak things a bit.

-Q) When can we expect HH to be available online??

If all goes as planned and on schedule, late March 2006.

-Q) Does this also have an estrogen lowering effect?

Only in that there is not additional aromatization that can occur like when someone increases testosterone levels through increased administration. There are some studies that show AR agonist can have some affects similar to DHT in this regard in that the body can attempt to increase natural estrogen levels in some due to increased activity in regard to protein synthesis. This compound as a whole has not yet shown this side affect, but it does appear possible in at theory.

-Q) Any thoughts on Novla being necessary?

Nope

-Q) Without giving away the formula, can you tell me if there is anything in this product that would cause me to fail a steroid test?

There is an alteration in both total and free testosterone count though exceeding a 6:1 ration is not likely. Structurally speaking , no "dirty" due to unrelated materials.

-Q) Can I stack HH with any other AX products, such as SD or PP, how about all three?

We will have a more accurate answers after the testing.

-Q) Any negative effects on the liver?

None at all

-Q) What should the water intake be?

Water intake should range from 1 1/2 to 2 gallons everyday.

-Q) Can we homebrew Herbal Hypertrophic?

I like how you think, but that has not been established.

-Q) An I take a creatine or NO with Her. Hypertrophic?

Yes. Feel free to do so. We rec. you start of with HH to establish its effects, then add the other supplements, as desired.

-Q) How do you feel this product will stack up to PP and SD?

I think this product will not be as potent as Phera-Plex or SD.
It will be solid gains, non toxic, and lean.

-Q) Will this require a PCT?

Yes it will. AND PCT/Retain from AX will be provided for testers. Anytime one increases a hypertrophic level there is some anti-hypertrophic response by the body (high or low, but there at some level). As such, it is always best to make sure that all natural pro-hypertrophic hormones are at their best post cycle, thus PCT for stimulation intent.
AX has already pitted the compound against test propionate, Ergomax and 4-AD looking for a good comparison reference point. They were, so far, very happy with the positive results and lack of negative ones.

-Q) Do we need to take this with carbs or empty stomach or ...?

You will take it with food.

-Q) Any effects on hairline so far?

I am prone to mpb, Will this be necessary as a precaution?

No you should not have that problem at all. It should be very clean.

-Q) The need for PCT seems to indicate that natural test might be surpressed with this.

So, I'm guessing if Test levels are elevated by using this product that it's the active ingredient that's registering as increased Test, not natural Test elevation via increased LH levels, etc.

Actually you are correct, but it is basically structured more so as an AR agonist, though the product does/will also allow for libido support that has been quite a down fall in this area of research in the past.

-Q) Do we have any idea how much it will raise Test, or if it will throw off the Test/Epitest ratio?

Yes, but this is more dose dependant. At listed dosages the range will fall mostly into the upper area for "most" but not all.

-Q) How long would you expect the ingredients of this product to stay in your system, and how long after discontinuation of the product would Test levels remain elevated?

The actives and metabolites will be clear in 7-10 days.
In regard to structures...it is all in the approach to extraction from the herbal source. Simply meaning that Oral BA and the actions are more dependant upon the compound rather than metabolites.

-Q) What level if any of shutdown is to be expected?

It should have no effect on lipids of significance, 0 liver issues,and HPTA is not "as bad" as most AAS but recovery (mild PCT) is suggested.

-Q) Dosage?

1 cap 3x ED for 40 days.

Additional Information:

AX has a new Herbal Hypertrophic product about to be released.
Now do not get discouraged with the word herbal.
It should be a great product. Most of the first testers gained in average 9 lbs in 4 weeks.
It should be ErgoMax style gains. No matter how powerful this it, it will not be marketed as a pro-hormone so get used to
Herbal Hypertrophic. It's non-methyl.
You will be sent the dosing and that is it. No profiles can be released as of yet for obvious reasons.
This one will be copied by all of the imitators. So we are not giving any other info except that it has no liver toxicity, no aromatization and that this is the final testing.

Meat Head · 02-21-2006, 09:36 PM

Great post Massive.

Damn, I'm REALLY looking forward to trying this out!

**krzna** · 02-21-2006, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meat Head

Great post Massive.

Damn, I'm REALLY looking forward to trying this out!

hey are u the same meat head at bb.com? james?

**MASSIVE** · 02-22-2006, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meat Head

Great post Massive.

Damn, I'm REALLY looking forward to trying this out!

Thanks man, really looking forward to reading the logs :nosthumbs

Meat Head · 02-22-2006, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krzna

hey are u the same meat head at bb.com? james?

Nope, I'm not James. My User name on there is "Meat Head" though. "M" & the "H" both capitalized.

02-21-2006, 08:14 PM	#1
MASSIVE AX Rep Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TOKYO Posts: 1,190 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 14	Re: AX Herbal Hypertrophic- Unofficial FAQ I have gathered many questions that have been posted on the forums and that have been emailed to AX over the past few months. Please note that this is a new product and that we are doing our best to give you the most accurate response regarding Herbal Hypertrophic. We hope to accomplish much knowledge over the testing that we begin next week. Please list / post / email any questions and / or comments you have about our product, we can't promise to give you an immediate response, so we ask for your patience. ------------------- -Q) Will we need ANY supporting supplements, such as Policosanol, Hawthorn, Red yeast rice etc? Not needed with Herbal Hypertrophic. -Q) Do the same rules apply, time on = time off? Time on = time off. Correct. -Q) WHAT?! No negative effects on the liver or lipids?! I'm 17 years old, can I take HH? No, intended for those 21 yrs. of age and older. -Q) Will there be any experimentations with the dosing? Dosing is final right now. Depending on the results we may tweak things a bit. -Q) When can we expect HH to be available online?? If all goes as planned and on schedule, late March 2006. -Q) Does this also have an estrogen lowering effect? Only in that there is not additional aromatization that can occur like when someone increases testosterone levels through increased administration. There are some studies that show AR agonist can have some affects similar to DHT in this regard in that the body can attempt to increase natural estrogen levels in some due to increased activity in regard to protein synthesis. This compound as a whole has not yet shown this side affect, but it does appear possible in at theory. -Q) Any thoughts on Novla being necessary? Nope -Q) Without giving away the formula, can you tell me if there is anything in this product that would cause me to fail a steroid test? There is an alteration in both total and free testosterone count though exceeding a 6:1 ration is not likely. Structurally speaking , no "dirty" due to unrelated materials. -Q) Can I stack HH with any other AX products, such as SD or PP, how about all three? We will have a more accurate answers after the testing. -Q) Any negative effects on the liver? None at all -Q) What should the water intake be? Water intake should range from 1 1/2 to 2 gallons everyday. -Q) Can we homebrew Herbal Hypertrophic? I like how you think, but that has not been established. -Q) An I take a creatine or NO with Her. Hypertrophic? Yes. Feel free to do so. We rec. you start of with HH to establish its effects, then add the other supplements, as desired. -Q) How do you feel this product will stack up to PP and SD? I think this product will not be as potent as Phera-Plex or SD. It will be solid gains, non toxic, and lean. -Q) Will this require a PCT? Yes it will. AND PCT/Retain from AX will be provided for testers. Anytime one increases a hypertrophic level there is some anti-hypertrophic response by the body (high or low, but there at some level). As such, it is always best to make sure that all natural pro-hypertrophic hormones are at their best post cycle, thus PCT for stimulation intent. AX has already pitted the compound against test propionate, Ergomax and 4-AD looking for a good comparison reference point. They were, so far, very happy with the positive results and lack of negative ones. -Q) Do we need to take this with carbs or empty stomach or ...? You will take it with food. -Q) Any effects on hairline so far? I am prone to mpb, Will this be necessary as a precaution? No you should not have that problem at all. It should be very clean. -Q) The need for PCT seems to indicate that natural test might be surpressed with this. So, I'm guessing if Test levels are elevated by using this product that it's the active ingredient that's registering as increased Test, not natural Test elevation via increased LH levels, etc. Actually you are correct, but it is basically structured more so as an AR agonist, though the product does/will also allow for libido support that has been quite a down fall in this area of research in the past. -Q) Do we have any idea how much it will raise Test, or if it will throw off the Test/Epitest ratio? Yes, but this is more dose dependant. At listed dosages the range will fall mostly into the upper area for "most" but not all. -Q) How long would you expect the ingredients of this product to stay in your system, and how long after discontinuation of the product would Test levels remain elevated? The actives and metabolites will be clear in 7-10 days. In regard to structures...it is all in the approach to extraction from the herbal source. Simply meaning that Oral BA and the actions are more dependant upon the compound rather than metabolites. -Q) What level if any of shutdown is to be expected? It should have no effect on lipids of significance, 0 liver issues,and HPTA is not "as bad" as most AAS but recovery (mild PCT) is suggested. -Q) Dosage? 1 cap 3x ED for 40 days. Additional Information: AX has a new Herbal Hypertrophic product about to be released. Now do not get discouraged with the word herbal. It should be a great product. Most of the first testers gained in average 9 lbs in 4 weeks. It should be ErgoMax style gains. No matter how powerful this it, it will not be marketed as a pro-hormone so get used to Herbal Hypertrophic. It's non-methyl. You will be sent the dosing and that is it. No profiles can be released as of yet for obvious reasons. This one will be copied by all of the imitators. 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02-21-2006, 09:36 PM	#2
Meat Head Amateur Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ATX Posts: 44 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Great post Massive. Damn, I'm REALLY looking forward to trying this out!