[MASSIVE]

Congratulations on being selected as a tester for up and coming AX products.

This testing will be for our new Herbal Hypertrophic developed by ALR. Each of you has been sent two bottles plus a bottle of PCT and Retain.

Dosing: 1 cap 3xd for 40 days.


Below will outline what is expected from you. You can also feel free to post your experience on other boards. Atomic will allow one central location for AX to monitor the progress.

Each tester should start a new thread in his name.

The testing log should be updated twice weekly with the following information:

-Date being logged (note that the information will be for the previous day, for example, the information you post on tuesday will be what you ate etc. on monday)

-Any supplements taken that weren't mentioned in your initial post, and when you took them

-Any comments you have on the product, side effects, impressions from the product, etc.

-Anything unordinary, that may or may not be due to the product – upset stomach, insomnia, irritability, indications of a negative reaction, etc. This may seem pointless, but often times many people will experience a side effect and not comment on it because they don't think it's from the product, but if multiple people report the same thing, this indicates that the product may have something to do with it.

You also need an additional weekly entry (which can be included in the same post as one of the daily entries) providing the following information:

-Weight

-Body part size measurements you wish to do

The final entry (after the testing is completed) should include the same information as the weekly entries, in addition to the following:

-Overall impressions from the product – how easy it was to use, what side effects you experienced, how well you thought it worked, etc.

-Whether or not you would use this product again

-Whether or not you would recommend this product

-How much you felt that inconsistencies in your diet, training, etc. interfered with an accurate evaluation of the product – be honest

-Optional: "After" pictures

-Optional: Weights lifted on some of the major lifts near the end of the test

-Any other information you feel is relevant



Thanks,

Kevin Smith
President Anabolic Xtreme

[MASSIVE]

Here is some additional info for some observers.


AX has a new Herbal Hypertrophic product about to be released. This will be beta testing for dosing.
Now do not get discouraged with the word herbal.

It should be a great product. Most of the first testers gained in average 9 lbs in 4 weeks.
It should be ErgoMax style gains. No matter how powerful this it, it will not be marketed as a pro-hormone so get used to
Herbal Hypertrophic. Its non-methyl.

You will be sent the dosing and that is it. No profiles can be released as of yet for obvious reasons.
This one will be copied by all of the imitators. So we are not giving any other info except that it has no liver toxicity, no aromatization and that this is the final testing.


Will this require a PCT?

Yes it will. AND PCT/Retain from AX will be provided. Anytime one increases a hypertrophic level there is some anti-hypertrophic response by the body (high or low, but there at some level). As such, it is always best to make sure that all natural pro-hypertrophic hormones are at their best post cycle, thus PCT for stimulation intent.

AX has already pitted the compound against test propionate, Ergomax and 4-AD looking for a good comparison reference point. They were, so far, very happy with the positive results and lack of negative ones.

[MASSIVE]

Do we need to take this with carbs or empty stomach or ...?

Yes you will take it with food.

Any effects on hairline so far?
I am prone to mpb and have hair supps I was goin to run durin sd. will this be necessary as a precaution?

No you should not have that problem at all. It should be very clean.

What level if any of shutdown is to be expected?

It should have no effect on lipids of significance, 0 liver issues,and HPTA is not "as bad" as most AAS but recovery (mild PCT) is suggested.

[sulcop]

That you for the opportunity to do the test run on this product. I will start my log as soon as my kit arrives.

Sully

[sulcop]

Massive,

Do you want the logs in this thread or should we set it up in the product testers catagory?

Sully

[MASSIVE]

Originally Posted by sulcop

Massive,

Do you want the logs in this thread or should we set it up in the product testers catagory?

Sully

One thread/log for each tester, thanks for coming over so quick. :nosthumbs

(smilies are fun)

[dangetinthere]

Okay I belive I will be all set when it gets here, I will check back to see if you guys have it all figured out.:winkthumb

[inprogress2]

hey c- as you know I am goin to start a "pre-log". to get diet tweaked a little by psk n others and to get use to posting diet(can we supply a link to our fitday?) n lifts everyday for a week or so, b4 i start the product and then will continue it with-in that thread when i start h/h.My question is where do i start this thread. here,bb ,an?

[skelooth]

when i do sponsored logs I usually keep them on all of the boards I post Copy paste isn't hard.

I just wanted to say that this new product literally sounds too good to be true. I'm eager to see the results.

[Drew1200]

Originally Posted by skelooth

I just wanted to say that this new product literally sounds too good to be true. I'm eager to see the results.

co-signed. cant wait to see what happens here.

[fredpo]

Need anymore testers massive, I'm willing to try it out.

Fred

[ersatz]

Originally Posted by skelooth

when i do sponsored logs I usually keep them on all of the boards I post Copy paste isn't hard.

I just wanted to say that this new product literally sounds too good to be true. I'm eager to see the results.

Personally, I'd just post the log at this board so as to force more people to visit here and sign up.

[EME]

As a drug free competitor always looking for effective, legal supplements, this new product is obviously very interesting to me.

I sent several questions I had about the product to Massive, and he asked that I post them here in this thread so they could be answered here, and viewed by all.

Here is a summary of the questions I had:


1) Without giving away the formula, can you tell me if there is anything in this product that would cause me to fail a steroid test?

2) The need for PCT seems to indicate that natural test might be surpressed with this.

So, I'm guessing if Test levels are elevated by using this product that it's the active ingredient that's registering as increased Test, not natural Test elevation via increased LH levels, etc.

Do we have any idea how much it will raise Test, or if it will throw off the Test/Epitest ratio?

A Test/Epi ratio of higher than 6:1 will cause a failed test in most drug tested shows.

3) Does this also have an estrogen lowering effect?

4) Finally, how long would you expect the ingredients of this product to stay in your system, and how long after discontinuation of the product would Test levels remain elevated?

Sorry for all the questions, but these things are very important to those of us who compete in drug tested shows.

One of your testers is also a Natural competitor, so I'm sure the answers to these questions will be very important to him as well.

Thank you,

- EME

[inprogress2]

eme-just wanted 2 say hey. glad 2 c your interest and have read many many informative post by you on bb and here. great questions thats all.

c-atomic has been down for 1 n 1/2 days so we do the threads here now??I was planning on doin it on here but u wanted atomic I am also postin it on bb as well.

[fredpo]

nice post EME, I too have been interested in all of those questions.

Fred

[MASSIVE]

Originally Posted by inprogress2

c-atomic has been down for 1 n 1/2 days so we do the threads here now??I was planning on doin it on here but u wanted atomic I am also postin it on bb as well.

Priority logs will be held here on Iron Mass!

Testers initiate your threads/logs!!! :nosthumbs

Feel free to post your logs with your updates on the other BB forums!

[Regular_Ryan]

Originally Posted by EME

As a drug free competitor always looking for effective, legal supplements, this new product is obviously very interesting to me.

I sent several questions I had about the product to Massive, and he asked that I post them here in this thread so they could be answered here, and viewed by all.

Here is a summary of the questions I had:


1) Without giving away the formula, can you tell me if there is anything in this product that would cause me to fail a steroid test?

2) The need for PCT seems to indicate that natural test might be surpressed with this.

So, I'm guessing if Test levels are elevated by using this product that it's the active ingredient that's registering as increased Test, not natural Test elevation via increased LH levels, etc.

Do we have any idea how much it will raise Test, or if it will throw off the Test/Epitest ratio?

A Test/Epi ratio of higher than 6:1 will cause a failed test in most drug tested shows.

3) Does this also have an estrogen lowering effect?

4) Finally, how long would you expect the ingredients of this product to stay in your system, and how long after discontinuation of the product would Test levels remain elevated?

Sorry for all the questions, but these things are very important to those of us who compete in drug tested shows.

One of your testers is also a Natural competitor, so I'm sure the answers to these questions will be very important to him as well.

Thank you,

- EME

I sent that over to Kevin to have someone answer it.

[lardo5150]

I am here now. I will beging logging when I get the product.

[ersatz]

Looking forward to the logs.