| IronMass Forums Working to failure Training Discuss Working to failure in the Bodybuilding Science forums; So, for about the past 6 months or so i've been working to failure on every set when working out, which has given me some good results, however i'... |
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0 | So, for about the past 6 months or so i've been working to failure on every set when working out, which has given me some good results, however i've been looking around on several different websites to try and figure out which would be better, working to failure on every set, or working to a set amount of reps (6-8 since i'm going for mass), and working to failure on the last couple of sets. And well, different sites seem to say different things, so i really don't know which to go with... So i thought, where better to ask than here since you guys (i'm guessing lol) are a lot more experienced than me.So what should i be doing, working to failure on every set? Or working to a set amount of reps hitting failure on the last couple? Thanks in advance. |
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| Metamorphosizing Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Area
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Periodization is the key to consistent gains. You should hit your muscles with 3-4 week phases that focus on a specific type of stimulus. A good program to begin with is triphase training, you can download a book describing the system here: ::: Scivation Books :::
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| eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA
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I don't have much to add except the fact that this question is VERY dependent on one's experience, diet, sleep schedule, goals, and overall volume. If your volume is less, you can, in theory train every set to failure. I have a friend who does 3 work sets with 1 warm-up set, three times per week... and that's it. He goes to failure on all worksets. Personally, I go to failure on 1-2 worksets under the 6 rep range, and will go to failure on all sets in the 10-12 range without having any issues with overdoing things. But then again, I only do 2 real exercises during each of my sessions.
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0 | Ok, thanks for the help guys, and cheers for the download madman =] appreciated. But is there any breif way of describing 'periodization'? its a word i keep coming across, but what is it? |
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| Metamorphosizing Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Area
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 62 | Look at the tri-phase system that I sent you the link for. You can see that it is broken into three phases, we could also call these 'periods'. Each phase, or period, is emphasizing a different type of stimulus: In phase one of the system volume is the focus, in phase two the emphasis is on moving heavy weight, and the third phase is based on increased frequency (hitting each muscle group 3X per week). Then there's a one week rest period. There are many other approaches to periodization, but triphase is a great system to start with.
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| eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 116 | "Periodization" by DJSTARER: The change (addition or subtraction) of one of many formalized stimuli in training, through time.
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| resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA
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| eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 116 | bah! HA HA again... what does fyp mean?
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| The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado
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![]() I will add that brief bouts of planned overtraining should be included in a periodization program of training, just like planned deloads should also be done.
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