Why is it not good to workout with bodypart days?

A_N_91 · 02-26-2006, 02:55 PM

I was reading some 5x5 articles and it said it's not good to do bodypart splits like Chest-Monday Back-Tuesday etc. Push/Pull, Upper/Lower, Full-Body is better because it works with the bodies movement. Is this is opinion or a fact that bodypart splits aren't good.

**MurphMan** · 02-26-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by A_N_91

I was reading some 5x5 articles and it said it's not good to do bodypart splits like Chest-Monday Back-Tuesday etc. Push/Pull, Upper/Lower, Full-Body is better because it works with the bodies movement. Is this is opinion or a fact that bodypart splits aren't good.

It depends on what your goals are. If you are cutting, then fullbody workouts EOD can be great. I did that encorporating a 60min circuit training routine, and lost over 20%bf in 16 weeks. But, once I got my bf down to under 10%, that routine was not helping me gain any significant mass. I then switched to the normal split body part protocol, and the muscle started to accumulate.

**skelooth** · 02-26-2006, 03:13 PM

I don't know. For bodybuilding purposes I don't think full body workouts would be very good unless they were maybe 2x a week. The idea behind a split is that you are giving your muscles plenty of time to rest/recover/grow but still able to remain athletically active lifting with different muscle groups in the mean time.

Full bodyworkouts, IMO, are good for a more athletic nature.... better endurance, etc. Just not for growing size.

But I'm a newb :yes:

**MurphMan** · 02-26-2006, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by skelooth

I don't know. For bodybuilding purposes I don't think full body workouts would be very good unless they were maybe 2x a week. The idea behind a split is that you are giving your muscles plenty of time to rest/recover/grow but still able to remain athletically active lifting with different muscle groups in the mean time.

Full bodyworkouts, IMO, are good for a more athletic nature.... better endurance, etc. Just not for growing size.

But I'm a newb :yes:

I see you have been hanging around EME, Skel! :rofl:

**NYCmitch25** · 02-26-2006, 03:38 PM

Peaked posted an article by Matt Reynolds on 'why not to do split routines'. IMO I dont think splits work well for vast majority - bb'lder or pwrlifter

**Peaked_18** · 02-26-2006, 03:39 PM

Mainly because using compound exercises use more then one muscle group. Some muscles may not recover fully depending on diet and the use of failure in training.

**EME** · 02-26-2006, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MurphMan

I see you have been hanging around EME, Skel! :rofl:

LOL.

What are you trying to say there Murph??

- EME

**MurphMan** · 02-26-2006, 04:04 PM

Don't forget though, that compound movements cause increased hormonal output by the body, which boosts your ability to recover.

**MurphMan** · 02-26-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EME

LOL.

What are you trying to say there Murph??

- EME

His posts are starting to sound like yours!

**EME** · 02-26-2006, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MurphMan

His posts are starting to sound like yours!

Oh Lord... what is the world coming to!

That would surely represent some kind of kind of freakish warp in the time-space continuum.

For God's sake, someone ask Skel a question about Fat Loss or required Fat intake so we can set things right again!

- EME

pammiejoe6 · 02-26-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EME

Oh Lord... what is the world coming to!

That would surely represent some kind of kind of freakish warp in the time-space continuum.

For God's sake, someone ask Skel a question about Fat Loss or required Fat intake so we can set things right again!

- EME

LMAO

**MurphMan** · 02-26-2006, 04:37 PM

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LMAO

:yeah:

**skelooth** · 02-26-2006, 04:44 PM

Mmmm fat

I can't wait to go back to cutting so I can stock up on whole fat cream cheese again

(it's a sick little world I live in)

**EME** · 02-26-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by skelooth

Mmmm fat

I can't wait to go back to cutting so I can stock up on whole fat cream cheese again

(it's a sick little world I live in)

Ahh... I feel things drifting back to a state of normalcy already.

- EME

**Peaked_18** · 02-26-2006, 04:56 PM

thread = hijacked

A_N_91 · 02-26-2006, 06:08 PM

So a push/pull or upper/lower body split is superior to doing bodypart workouts? I know it depends on a lot of things, but generally speaking...

**skelooth** · 02-26-2006, 06:11 PM

I prefer push/pull/legs ONLY because it fits my schedule at the moment. I still think I see more muscle growth doing a 5 day split.

Generally speaking, I think it depends on your body type and how you train while you're there.

**EME** · 02-26-2006, 06:16 PM

One thing that is VERY important to learn about bodybuilding is that there are no absolute answer.

It would be wrong for anyone to come on here and say that one particular kind of workout routine is better than another.

ALL of it depends on how your body responds.

During contest prep, I generally hit about 1 body part per day. In the offseason when I'm trying to gain weight, I do a three or four day split, hitting two - three bodyparts per day.

I do the 1 bodypart per day routine when I'm trying to burn a lot of calories, and I need more training days per week to burn the calories necessary to get cut.

I do the three or four day split when I'm trying to grow, so that I can spend three to four days out the gym, so I'm not burning up the calories I want to go to building muscle.

I do it this way because I have learned that this is how MY body responds best.

Sure, there are some basic fundamental theories that should go into developing your routine.... to gain size you need to be taking in more calories than you are burning... to cut, you need to be taking in less calories than you are burning... etc, etc. There are lots of theories involving training methodologies as well..... heavy weight / low reps are better for strength gain...... lighter weight/ higher reps are better for cutting.. - these may or may not be true for you.

I know people that do virtually the identical training routine when cutting as they do when bulking, they just change their diet and add in some cardio.

Bottom line, it's really all about what works best for you.

Put together your own program based on the info you learn here... but listen YOUR body and adjust the plan as necessary to truly find out what works best for you.

There is no one size fits all answer...... just good places to begin.

- EME

02-26-2006, 02:55 PM	#1
A_N_91 Pro Stature Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 849 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	Why is it not good to workout with bodypart days? I was reading some 5x5 articles and it said it's not good to do bodypart splits like Chest-Monday Back-Tuesday etc. Push/Pull, Upper/Lower, Full-Body is better because it works with the bodies movement. Is this is opinion or a fact that bodypart splits aren't good.

02-26-2006, 03:13 PM	#3
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 8,041 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 160	I don't know. For bodybuilding purposes I don't think full body workouts would be very good unless they were maybe 2x a week. The idea behind a split is that you are giving your muscles plenty of time to rest/recover/grow but still able to remain athletically active lifting with different muscle groups in the mean time. Full bodyworkouts, IMO, are good for a more athletic nature.... better endurance, etc. Just not for growing size. But I'm a newb :yes: __________________

02-26-2006, 04:44 PM	#13
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 8,041 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 160	Mmmm fat I can't wait to go back to cutting so I can stock up on whole fat cream cheese again (it's a sick little world I live in) __________________

02-26-2006, 06:11 PM	#17
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 8,041 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 160	I prefer push/pull/legs ONLY because it fits my schedule at the moment. I still think I see more muscle growth doing a 5 day split. Generally speaking, I think it depends on your body type and how you train while you're there. __________________

02-26-2006, 03:38 PM	#5
NYCmitch25 Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,087 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 49	Peaked posted an article by Matt Reynolds on 'why not to do split routines'. IMO I dont think splits work well for vast majority - bb'lder or pwrlifter

02-26-2006, 03:39 PM	#6
Peaked_18 a la commode Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,297 Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96	Mainly because using compound exercises use more then one muscle group. Some muscles may not recover fully depending on diet and the use of failure in training.

02-26-2006, 04:04 PM	#8
MurphMan Robomoderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,907 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 30	Don't forget though, that compound movements cause increased hormonal output by the body, which boosts your ability to recover.

02-26-2006, 04:56 PM	#15
Peaked_18 a la commode Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,297 Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96	thread = hijacked

02-26-2006, 06:08 PM	#16
A_N_91 Pro Stature Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 849 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	So a push/pull or upper/lower body split is superior to doing bodypart workouts? I know it depends on a lot of things, but generally speaking...