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Old 07-20-2005, 10:35 PM   #1
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What Is The Best Time To Do Cardio?

Cardio first?

When you do cardio training first, you deplete most of your glucose
and glycogen stores within the first 30 minutes approximately).
After that, your body turns to it's backup energy source...fat stores
and muscle tissue. If I did my 30 minute cardio session before
working out, I'd lose that window of time to really target fat burning.

Burn fat, not muscle tissue

The key to targeting fat stores rather than muscle tissue is to
make sure you're feeding your body the nutrition (food) it requires
throughout the day. Also, avoid marathon cardio sessions to
compensate for a bad diet (like so many people seem to do).

Cardio after?

An intense workout will blow through most of your glycogen stores
within an hour, so when you hit cardio post-workout, your body
will begin to draw from it's backup energy source...fat stores.
Now you're achieving exactly what you want — a solid muscle
gaining workout with powerful explosive energy, then to target
fat burning with a cardio session.

The Bottom Lline: Workout first, cardio to finish!
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what if you do cardio on a totally diff day? and wtf is this 30 min shit...20 min hiit cardio and im crawlin back into the steam room
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If you are going to do cardio after a weight training bout, I would highly recommend a 6 hr gap at least between each.
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You never mentioned when to have a post-workout shake. :p I'd rather do my cardio on an off day.

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Good post anti..
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When preparing for a competition, I do HIIT for 20 minutes first thing in the morning, and I do 30 minutes steady state cardio in evening after my weight workout.

During the offseason, I only do cardio 1-2 days per week in the evening, and only on off days from weight training.

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Ya it depends on the goal as to when I do cardio. Which right now is not often enough.
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this was just to discuss pre and post workout cardio and which is best, personally i prefer to do cardio on off days.
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this was just to discuss pre and post workout cardio and which is best, personally i prefer to do cardio on off days.
On off days, fasted state is less effiecent, right?
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I do cardio one day, weights on another. Easier to concentrate then
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If you are just looking at the short term most will say that fasting conditions are best.

In the long term you are better off training when you are capable of making the greatest fitness improvements. That means serious sessions of HIIT (weighted vest on a stairmaster would be a good endpoint and very stimulating for anabolic drive. Calories required: lots.)

A successful fat loss endevour should actually led to greater fat oxidation capabilities through improved circulation, improved muscle to fat ratio over a period of time and improved insulin sensitivity thru lower basal levels of fatty acids (therefore much reduced chance of insulin induced hypoglycemia and cortisol release after meals )

I even think it is possible for certain people to gain muscle on maintenence calories if their HIIT training is *developed* enough to cause their adipose to contribute to the calorie supply. If you burned 4500 calories in a day and ate 4500 calories this would normally just be maintenance, but if training induced fatty acid release and oxidation contributed 500 calories (from adipose) then you could be anabolic with 500 calories able to be diverted to muscle rebuilding.

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