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Old 03-24-2006, 11:43 AM   #1
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Default Ten Reasons You're NOT Growing

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1. You overtrain and under eat. These are listed as the main primary reason because they go hand in hand and BOTH must be balanced or you can forget growth. The most perfect training regimen will fail miserably if diet is not there to support it. And conversely, the most perect diet will be wasted if the trainee is doing more workload than they can recover from—most do WAY too much!

2. The training workload is not varied. Doing the exact same lift the same way stops being productive for most trainees within 3-6 weeks. Once the body has adapted to the loading it must be changed if you are to continue to force the body to adapt.

3. Too much focus on isolation exercises, not enough compound work. You can do all the “small” lifts until you are blue in the face, but until you are moving big poundage’s in the big lifts you will remain small. Which brings up point #4.

4. You MUST squat and deadlift if you are going to reach your bodies growth potential. Think it through. Doing squats or deads activates 70-85% of the bodies overall musculature in one move. Doing a set of curls maybe 3-5%. Which sends a big signal that the body better get better at synthesizing protein and better at handling the need to grow as a unit? You will NEVER reach your potential without doing the squats and deads.

5. You constantly fluctuate between lifts that have bad carry-over. Here is an example
I have seen many times, and one I have done myself. The trainee burns out on benching and decides to do Hammer Strength Benches for a change. He makes the switch and is jazzed. His Hammer press is going up every week and he is stoked. After a time he has added 50 lbs to his Hammer bench and decides to go back and hit the bench, only to find it’s up a whole 10 lbs!!!!!


That doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with Hammer Benches. It just means that the lifts are dissimilar enough that an increase in one may not necessarily help increase the lift on another. Use of stabilizers and inter and intra-muscular coordination are two primary reasons, along with neural recruitment pattern gains that don’t apply well to the other lift.

6. You don’t know when to de-load/cruise, or take time off. NO ONES body takes a constant pounding of hard training without periods of active or full rest recovery. Until you learn how and when to don this your training will never be optimal

7. Your micro-nutrient support SUCKS! I can’t count the number of guys I have seen trying to build great physiques taking a “one a day” vitamin and thinking they have it covered. If you want great things out of your body, you need to put
great fuel in it.

8. You train with the intensity of a arthritic old lady. Nuff said.

9. You have no clearly defined goals. Most people just “lift to get bigger”, and while this is a fine goal, not having strength related goals will kill your progress in the long run. Your primary goal should be getting stronger on the big lifts on a CONSTANT basis. Setting short and long-term strength goals and achieving them is what equals a big strong trainee in the long run.

10. You are inconsistent. Getting excited about your training and killing yourself in the gym only to burn out and few weeks later and miss a bunch of sessions ends up being 1 step forward, 3/4 steps backward for many trainees. Getting and staying consistent and racking up sustainable gains over the long-term is what it’s about.

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Old 03-25-2006, 06:26 AM   #2
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good article:

don't forgat MACRO nutrients. IMO, more important for growth.

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1. You overtrain and under eat. These are listed as the main primary reason because they go hand in hand and BOTH must be balanced or you can forget growth. The most perfect training regimen will fail miserably if diet is not there to support it. And conversely, the most perect diet will be wasted if the trainee is doing more workload than they can recover from—most do WAY too much!

2. The training workload is not varied. Doing the exact same lift the same way stops being productive for most trainees within 3-6 weeks. Once the body has adapted to the loading it must be changed if you are to continue to force the body to adapt.

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This is a good article.

While all are good points, getting proper nutrition and periodization are two of the most important factors to your results, nice to see them at no 1 & 2.
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don't forgat MACRO nutrients. IMO, more important for growth.

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Can u expand on this? i hear it a lot and not 100% sure what it means in a bblding context. is it eating variety of protien sources and having a balanced diet?
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Can u expand on this? i hear it a lot and not 100% sure what it means in a bblding context. is it eating variety of protien sources and having a balanced diet?
Macronutrients = protein, carbohydrates, fat

Micronutrients = vitamins, minerals

The ratio of the three macros comes into consideration depending on what you're trying to achieve, ie cutting, bulking, for example someone might use a 40/40/20 diet, or a 45/40/15 diet, etc.
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2. The training workload is not varied. Doing the exact same lift the same way stops being productive for most trainees within 3-6 weeks. Once the body has adapted to the loading it must be changed if you are to continue to force the body to adapt.
And if your current training regime consists of doing:
5x5-
Squat
Deadlift
Flat Bench
Incline Bench
Bent-over BB Rows
Millitary press

3 times weekly... all compounds... what exactly do you mix it up with? :P Removing squats and deadlifts is against rule #4!!! :boink:
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Macronutrients = protein, carbohydrates, fat

Micronutrients = vitamins, minerals

The ratio of the three macros comes into consideration depending on what you're trying to achieve, ie cutting, bulking, for example someone might use a 40/40/20 diet, or a 45/40/15 diet, etc.
Thanks for elaborating for me.

Someone who doesn't understand the importance of the Carbohydrate will no grow unless they are on gear or have freaky genetics.
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And if your current training regime consists of doing:
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Flat Bench
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Bent-over BB Rows
Millitary press

3 times weekly... all compounds... what exactly do you mix it up with? :P Removing squats and deadlifts is against rule #4!!! :boink:
Rack pulls and box squats/ other variations
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Overhead squats, front squats, barbell hack squats, zercher squats, hex bar squats...
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And if your current training regime consists of doing:
5x5-
Squat
Deadlift
Flat Bench
Incline Bench
Bent-over BB Rows
Millitary press

3 times weekly... all compounds... what exactly do you mix it up with? :P Removing squats and deadlifts is against rule #4!!! :boink:
squat - box squat, front squat, zercher squat, leg press
dead - trap bar dead, sumo dead, RDL, SLDL
flat bench - db press, floor press, dips, weighted pushups
incline bench - incline db press..... incline bench is more of a variation of the regular bench press anyways
rows - db rows, tbar rows, chins, pullups, yates row, pendlay row
military press - db press, push press
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