So why does everyone hate HST here?

Dvst8or · 05-25-2007, 02:57 AM

I have noticed a lot of animosity towards HST on this site and I was just wondering why so many people disagree with it?

Brian

TheRock · 05-25-2007, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvst8or

I have noticed a lot of animosity towards HST on this site

Have you? Post some quotes.

**davtown** · 05-25-2007, 07:43 AM

I've only read a tiny bit about it and I have never used it.... I can't say anything bad or good about it - my opinion is neutral. I haven't really seen this site as anti-HST, but perhaps I missed out on some threads/posts.
If you try it out, let us know how it works for you.

Dvst8or · 05-25-2007, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRock

Have you? Post some quotes.

I would love to but the search function won't find "HST" and it would be too hard for me to go back and find the posts. I have been a member of this site for a while now and I mostly see people frowning on HST. Sorry can't think of any specific examples right now.

Brian

Dvst8or · 05-25-2007, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by davtown

If you try it out, let us know how it works for you.

Starting it next week, so I will let you know what my results are.

**Peaked_18** · 05-25-2007, 02:53 PM

Few here use HST, no one I know is against it, but they never read into or used it...

**davtown** · 05-25-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvst8or

Starting it next week, so I will let you know what my results are.

Cool, will you be keeping a log here? I'd follow along.

**DJSTARER** · 05-25-2007, 08:15 PM

you may be thinking of HIT, not HST. I've done HST, wasn't impressed, but I could have done it longer.

HIT isn't particularly popular on this site. The name, in itself, is kind of a turn off.

TheRock · 05-26-2007, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvst8or

I would love to but the search function won't find "HST"

Gee, I wonder why ....

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Originally Posted by Dvst8or

Sorry can't think of any specific examples right now

Neither can I ...

**davtown** · 05-26-2007, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRock

Gee, I wonder why ....

because it's only 3 letters

The search function won't even find this thread if you type in "HST". You need 4 letters or more to do a search

Dvst8or · 05-26-2007, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DJSTARER

you may be thinking of HIT, not HST. I've done HST, wasn't impressed, but I could have done it longer.

HIT isn't particularly popular on this site. The name, in itself, is kind of a turn off.

Actually that may be exactly what I was thinking about.

**powerman2000** · 05-27-2007, 12:25 AM

IMO, HST does not allow for enough volume to actually cause measurable hypertrophy. Not a single well known strength or training coach advocates using HST. I'm sure it would produce results for a beginner, but it is far from being the optimal protocol available.

Full body workouts won't make anyone an advanced lifter.

Dvst8or · 05-29-2007, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

IMO, HST does not allow for enough volume to actually cause measurable hypertrophy. Not a single well known strength or training coach advocates using HST. I'm sure it would produce results for a beginner, but it is far from being the optimal protocol available.

Full body workouts won't make anyone an advanced lifter.

74% of the people using it disagree with you and are making significant gains
iB::Topic::Are you experiencing Gains with HST?

Another 23% are still seeing gains just not large ones.

Two of my friends have been training with this program for some time now and both of them are animals, i.e. 190 and 210lbs with less than 5% body fat.

**DJSTARER** · 05-29-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvst8or

74% of the people using it disagree with you and are making significant gains
iB::Topic::Are you experiencing Gains with HST?

Another 23% are still seeing gains just not large ones.

Two of my friends have been training with this program for some time now and both of them are animals, i.e. 190 and 210lbs with less than 5% body fat.

well in that case, we all better switch

Dvst8or · 05-30-2007, 04:25 AM

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well in that case, we all better switch

No need to be smart ass about it. I was certainly not claiming that is the best out there and that anyone not doing it is wrong. I was simply stating that it is working for a large majority of those doing the program.

Brian

**builtbeast** · 05-30-2007, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvst8or

Two of my friends have been training with this program for some time now and both of them are animals, i.e. 190 and 210lbs with less than 5% body fat.

Are they ectos?

Dvst8or · 05-30-2007, 01:39 PM

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Are they ectos?

Probably not, they are most likely mesomorphs.

Brian

TheRock · 05-31-2007, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvst8or

Two of my friends have bee

05-25-2007, 02:57 AM	#1
Dvst8or Amateur Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 53 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	So why does everyone hate HST here? I have noticed a lot of animosity towards HST on this site and I was just wondering why so many people disagree with it? Brian

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davtown OM NOM NOM NOM Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,360 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 128	Re: So why does everyone hate HST here? I've only read a tiny bit about it and I have never used it.... I can't say anything bad or good about it - my opinion is neutral. I haven't really seen this site as anti-HST, but perhaps I missed out on some threads/posts. If you try it out, let us know how it works for you. __________________ --Training Journal-- current/goal D: 350/380 S: 280/300 B: 235/260

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05-25-2007, 08:15 PM	#8
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,104 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 115	Re: So why does everyone hate HST here? you may be thinking of HIT, not HST. I've done HST, wasn't impressed, but I could have done it longer. HIT isn't particularly popular on this site. The name, in itself, is kind of a turn off. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

05-27-2007, 12:25 AM	#12
powerman2000 The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,188 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 202	Re: So why does everyone hate HST here? IMO, HST does not allow for enough volume to actually cause measurable hypertrophy. Not a single well known strength or training coach advocates using HST. I'm sure it would produce results for a beginner, but it is far from being the optimal protocol available. Full body workouts won't make anyone an advanced lifter. __________________ Don't forget to periodize Best BP 507 lbs competitive Best Squat 705 lbs competitive Best DL 650 lbs competitive Guns don't kill people, men who come home early do. My workout log http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6247