Need some advice

**vindiesel** · 03-20-2006, 07:39 PM

I have a new coach and I was wondering if I made the good choice.

I have been training alone for one year, increasing the weights progressively and following a 5-day split routine. Everyone says I have changed.

I decided it was time to go beyond my limits, reason why I asked that guy to help me.

I used to feel worn out after my workouts, a feeling of "I have done my best". After my 1st lesson, I felt nothing! He made me lift super light weights but high reps (like 15 or 20 or even 30)....

What do you think? Is it a better method, knowing that I want to put on lean muscle mass?

Thank you for your help.

VD

Crobar · 03-20-2006, 07:54 PM

Coach as in personal trainer at the gym?

**vindiesel** · 03-20-2006, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crobar

Coach as in personal trainer at the gym?

Exactly but a guy who never wears a T-shirt, only long-sleeves shirts.... He doesn't look big like b-boy or EME but he "coaches" women at different gyms...

Lift · 03-20-2006, 08:24 PM

Perhaps you should ask him some pertinent questions to see if he knows what the hell he's doing: ex: would you suggest conjugated periodization over linear etc etc yknow... the kind of thing you would expect an exercise proffesional to know

Alternatively you might want to ask him why the hell he's having you do 30 rep sets..if he has no idea ditch him, half the 'trainers' i see in my gym spend 20mins on a treadmill and then do 4" squats i wouldnt let them train me for free

**madman911** · 03-20-2006, 09:02 PM

Most gym trainers don't know what they're doing. There is one good female trainer at my gym and the other three are just idiots, despite being degreed and certified. Any trainer who isn't themselves in excellent physical condition should be ashamed of themselves. The clients I see them train never improve. What really shocks me is that they make conversation with their client the entire training session, even during sets, which just makes me shake my head in disbelief. You just can't workout with any intensity at all and be talking about your kids, your car, or your upcoming vacation... all while pumping out low-weight, bad form reps.

Bottom line, most trainers don't push their clients because the majority of people will lack the discipline to stick with tough training, so instead the trainer makes "friends" with them to keep the client coming back.

If you want to build mass, high reps is not the way to do it. Stick with low reps: 5-8 using 80-85% of your 1RM. If your trainer tells you different, he doesn't know what he's talking about. It's okay to use lighter weight for higher reps if you're going for glycogen depletion or as an occassional change of pace.

03-20-2006, 07:39 PM	#1
vindiesel IronMass Vip Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 53 Recipes: 1 Rep Power: 6	Need some advice I have a new coach and I was wondering if I made the good choice. I have been training alone for one year, increasing the weights progressively and following a 5-day split routine. Everyone says I have changed. I decided it was time to go beyond my limits, reason why I asked that guy to help me. I used to feel worn out after my workouts, a feeling of "I have done my best". After my 1st lesson, I felt nothing! He made me lift super light weights but high reps (like 15 or 20 or even 30).... What do you think? Is it a better method, knowing that I want to put on lean muscle mass? Thank you for your help. VD

03-20-2006, 08:24 PM	#4
Lift I Love IronMass.Com Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 825 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 12	Perhaps you should ask him some pertinent questions to see if he knows what the hell he's doing: ex: would you suggest conjugated periodization over linear etc etc yknow... the kind of thing you would expect an exercise proffesional to know Alternatively you might want to ask him why the hell he's having you do 30 rep sets..if he has no idea ditch him, half the 'trainers' i see in my gym spend 20mins on a treadmill and then do 4" squats i wouldnt let them train me for free __________________ MrLiftALot@hotmail.com "King Kong Ain't Got Sh*t On Me..."

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03-20-2006, 07:54 PM	#2
Crobar IMPC Contestant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: a hop from NYC Posts: 371 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Coach as in personal trainer at the gym?

03-20-2006, 09:02 PM	#5
madman911 Metamorphosizing Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Area Posts: 1,543 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 62	Most gym trainers don't know what they're doing. There is one good female trainer at my gym and the other three are just idiots, despite being degreed and certified. Any trainer who isn't themselves in excellent physical condition should be ashamed of themselves. The clients I see them train never improve. What really shocks me is that they make conversation with their client the entire training session, even during sets, which just makes me shake my head in disbelief. You just can't workout with any intensity at all and be talking about your kids, your car, or your upcoming vacation... all while pumping out low-weight, bad form reps. Bottom line, most trainers don't push their clients because the majority of people will lack the discipline to stick with tough training, so instead the trainer makes "friends" with them to keep the client coming back. If you want to build mass, high reps is not the way to do it. Stick with low reps: 5-8 using 80-85% of your 1RM. If your trainer tells you different, he doesn't know what he's talking about. It's okay to use lighter weight for higher reps if you're going for glycogen depletion or as an occassional change of pace.