| IronMass Forums How To Increase Compound Exercises Training Discuss How To Increase Compound Exercises in the Bodybuilding Science forums; I would like to hear everyone's opinions on how to increase their lifts for most compound exercises. We'll sort of make a little game out of it I ... |
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| a la commode Join Date: May 2005
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Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96 | I would like to hear everyone's opinions on how to increase their lifts for most compound exercises. We'll sort of make a little game out of it I guess. I want to hear everyone's opinion on a few select exercises and how to increase them. Throw in some special things you can do and the basic things you should always be doing etc. I will share my theories as well to everyone. I will post it up after at least 5 people have helped out and contributed. How do you improve the... Bench Press Squat Deadlift Clean Thank you to all that contribute! |
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| eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158 | by eating enough and pushing yourself to improve either the reps or the weight every workout. ![]()
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| a la commode Join Date: May 2005
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| eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158 | Always there to lend a helping hand! ![]() I have no specific techniques, but I do know my strength goes up much faster doing a high weight low rep routine. I also always do my compound lifts first thing in every workout.
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| a la commode Join Date: May 2005
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Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96 | Yup, I will explain later a lot more techniques to use to help increase them. ![]() |
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| Pro Stature Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4 | add weight each week no matter how much it is. example 1/2 lbs |
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 176 | Rest pause is a simple and great technique for improving strength. One of my favorites is to gradualy increase the range of movement on any of the exercises. First only moving the weight 6 inches in bench press for example with much more weight than I can do full range of motion reps, after a few weeks I lower the pin in the power rack, and do that for a few weeks increasing the weight every week, until finaly I am at full range reps.... one thing to note however if you are trying to build muscle, as opposed to strength a more gradual increase in strength is probably more beneficial IMHO... |
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| the Epicurean Bodybuilder Join Date: Aug 2005
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 58 | I am probably going to show how much I don't know, but I will give this a shot. Other than the clean, the others are standard powerlifting lifts. The short answer is to train like a powerlifter. That includes cycling through a program specifying % of 1 rrm for each week where you vary the % of 1 rm and the reps. I am not sure I know all of the terminology, but some of the techniques are using boards and floor presses for the bench to overcome sticking points. On the squat, there are the various box squat exercises. For deads there is rack pulls and Romanian deadlifts. I guess, I know a little, but I am certainly not an expert and haven't really covered what I know very well. Hopefully we will hear about this in more detail. I would be interested to learn. My squat and deadlift could use an assist. *
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| IronMass Donator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Folsom, CA
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9 | Man, talk about an open-ended question. There's entire magazines dedicated to that topic. Like Bubba, I'll throw in my two cents by answering a narrow scope of it. Here's the lifts that have HELPED those lifts the most: On the Bench Press... almost any front delt work is/was essential. This is my weak link (of pecs, tris, and delts), and all the close grips and inclines and DBs in the world weren't improving my anterior delts enough. So I added more front DB raises, BB front raises, standing military presses, etc. Also pause benching, rack lockouts.... For Squats: Good mornings, no question whatsoever. I went through a phase for squat strength where I did almost no squatting. All I did was good mornings, heavy, with good form. And my squat went up big time. So did my dead, actually. I'm not saying I have perfect form, but my form on squats is rock f-ing solid. And what helps me get out of a heavy hole is being able to GM whatever's on my back. Currently, I can GM as much as I can squat, and it gives me TONS of control on the heavy squats. For deads... probably SLDLs, maybe hypers, GMs again, oblique work (seriously).... hard to say on that one. My dead is pretty good for my bvodyweight, but harder to say what the big helper lift was. Deads are almost TOO compound to answer like this. Cleans. High Pulls. No question. I don't know anyone whose limiting portion of the clean is the front squat, so it's all about lifting explosively from the floor. Can't START with high pulls, of course, but that's the component that helped my clean. So much so that I rarely do full cleans. More PCs than anything else. |
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| eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158 | I will second that. Ab work helps both deads and squats.
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 176 | Quote:
Good info bro.. pause press is great for increasing the bottom part of the bench press.. Rack Deads will help inprove your deadlift.. again you can gradualy increase the range of motion.... | |
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| IronMass Donator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Folsom, CA
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Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9 | Quote:
Depends on the lift. Not always the weakest link. But in general? Yep. Weakest link. A nice place to start. | |
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| a la commode Join Date: May 2005
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Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96 | I'll post up what I had at BB.com in a few minutes... |
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| a la commode Join Date: May 2005
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Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96 | The Base There should ALWAYS be a base to a program. Which should steadily make you grow and get bigger. Many people throw in more techniques or extra nutrients or supplements to keep the process going. Good Nutrition + Training + Rest = Growth (This is true, this should be your base for what you are doing) Bench Press One thing that will really shoot this up is to figure if you have any weak points that could be hurting your bench press. The muscles a PLing Bench Press works is the back, triceps, and shoulders. So what do you do to improve that lift, obviously train those body parts. The next thing that will improve youe Bench Press is your form, and to increase your Bench, you need to master the CORRECT form during a Bench Press. Quote:
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