Do you think these programs would be worth trying?

Jon789 · 04-03-2005, 11:30 PM

First I would like to hello to everyone here. And now to point, I was looking around the internet a few days ago and found this site called www.questformuscle.com
They have a program section with programs for men and women, ranging from beginner to advanced with different targets for every program. They all cost about 10-15 dollars and were anywhere from 6-10 weeks long. If you want to read their descriptions the exact address is: www.questformuscle.com/workoutprograms.html
Any comments would be appriceated.

Thanks

**Sholiz** · 04-03-2005, 11:39 PM

I'm more of a person who goes with an "individualized" plan, not something made for someone else then marketed. Anyway, you've got a site full of knowledge here. What else do you need

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**antihero** · 04-03-2005, 11:56 PM

i dont think their stuff is worth paying for....ive seen some of their work, and its not that impressive...you'd be better off finding a log of someones, and adapting that to fit you....or just developing your own.....just my 2cents....

Jon789 · 04-04-2005, 12:16 AM

To Sholiz, I'm not sure what you mean by individualized, but they do provide the weights for squat, deadlift, and bench press. I just thought I would ask about them, you've got admit that after reading some of the reviews its hard not too.

**Sholiz** · 04-04-2005, 12:29 AM

When I say individualized, they don't know anything about you other than you have money and they want it. A few things they say there though, seem farfetched. 15lbs in 7 weeks?

Some things just don't add up, just might be me, but I know what works for me and that's what I will apply. I'm one who works better in a lower rep range, and they don't know that before I start a program and for $14.00 they won't ajust it to suit me.

Just my swayed opinion.

**antihero** · 04-04-2005, 01:25 AM

im with sholiz on this one...

Jon789 · 04-04-2005, 02:21 AM

I'm not trying to defend them, I just wanted to see what you thought. I have no intention on trying any of those. I have my own program that I use. I'm sorry I didn't understand what you meant by individualized. And I agree with you on that. Alright, well, thank you.

sword chucks · 04-04-2005, 05:38 PM

Just make your own program wiht exercises you like best duh..

muscleboy333 · 04-04-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sword chucks

Just make your own program wiht exercises you like best duh..

Agreed, trial and error is probably the best way...

Fury20 · 04-05-2005, 10:20 PM

If you have to pay, its not worth it. Go to the training section and read the post by IronRapist w/ all of the different training styles. Find one you like and try it. The best advice i can say is stick with it. Dont change in 2 weeks b/c someone on a forum said they gained X lbs with program "A". Stay with it and do NOT CHANGE IT. Try the way it is printed, @ least 2x, then maybe adjust it somewhat, but very very very little.

Option B would be to compile what you like to do in the weight room into an organized system and follow it. Thats the best way to personalize your lifting.

**antihero** · 04-05-2005, 11:38 PM

pick something, and do it for about 6 months straight, then change. but only if ABSOLUTELY NECCESSARY. in that six months you will see a change....it doesnt happen in 2 weeks.....stick with it, and dont over analyze....

Jon789 · 04-06-2005, 12:06 AM

Guys, Chill out, you act like I thought these programs were the holy grail or something, I just asked what you thought. I wasn't about to try any of them. But thank you for your responses. I'm going to check out some of those programs you told me about. By the way, I am a powerlifter, not a bodybuilder. I have no intention to stay on any one program for 6 months. I alternate every 10-15 weeks. I have done 5x5 and about 3 other of my own programs I designed myself before. My way has worked pretty well for me so far.

I have a question though, I was reading through here a few hours ago and it seems that most of you don't like the bench press. Personally I love it. but that is just my opinion. If you don't perform it, why not, and what don't you like about it?

Thanks

sfiximo · 04-07-2005, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon789

Guys, Chill out, you act like I thought these programs were the holy grail or something, I just asked what you thought. I wasn't about to try any of them. But thank you for your responses. I'm going to check out some of those programs you told me about. By the way, I am a powerlifter, not a bodybuilder. I have no intention to stay on any one program for 6 months. I alternate every 10-15 weeks. I have done 5x5 and about 3 other of my own programs I designed myself before. My way has worked pretty well for me so far.

I have a question though, I was reading through here a few hours ago and it seems that most of you don't like the bench press. Personally I love it. but that is just my opinion. If you don't perform it, why not, and what don't you like about it?

Thanks

Well if you are a powerlifter then you should obviously not stop bench pressing because we said so

Some people dont like bench pressing because of the stress it puts to your shoulder joint, some dont like it because it wont give any damn results (like me)
Its just a personal choice though. You do what you like and know works for you, not what some guy said over some forums..

**Sholiz** · 04-07-2005, 10:49 AM

I don't like bench press for the fact it puts you in a single fixed plane (like any exercise) but it puts undue stress on your pecs which in turn can (and may) cause a muscle tear. It's an unnatural plane of movement as far as I'm concerned, and there are just too many other exercises that could be substituted for it which would lead to better gains, IMO.

**warriors** · 04-07-2005, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sholiz

I don't like bench press for the fact it puts you in a single fixed plane (like any exercise) but it puts undue stress on your pecs which in turn can (and may) cause a muscle tear. It's an unnatural plane of movement as far as I'm concerned, and there are just too many other exercises that could be substituted for it which would lead to better gains, IMO.

what about dumbells?? that's what i use for my bench press and it's a whole lot better IMO than the bar

K_muscle · 04-13-2005, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by warriors

what about dumbells?? that's what i use for my bench press and it's a whole lot better IMO than the bar

Right you can use dumbells. He's just talking about the position that flat barbell bench puts you in. Incline and decline movements are fine.

Dan · 05-13-2005, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sword chucks

Just make your own program wiht exercises you like best duh..

agreed.. and what works for someone else may not work for you. There is no harm in trying every thing.

**powerman2000** · 05-14-2005, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by antihero

i dont think their stuff is worth paying for....ive seen some of their work, and its not that impressive...you'd be better off finding a log of someones, and adapting that to fit you....or just developing your own.....just my 2cents....

I wouldn't pay for any workout plan. There is too much free info here and on the internet.

**antihero** · 05-14-2005, 11:38 AM

id pay for dante to fix up my diet and get me going on 100% perfect DC (in a few years), cause then id be a monster...

LSU777 · 05-23-2005, 03:42 AM

i'd only pay for 2 people DC and IRON ADDICT

04-03-2005, 11:30 PM	#1
Jon789 New Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Do you think these programs would be worth trying? First I would like to hello to everyone here. And now to point, I was looking around the internet a few days ago and found this site called www.questformuscle.com They have a program section with programs for men and women, ranging from beginner to advanced with different targets for every program. They all cost about 10-15 dollars and were anywhere from 6-10 weeks long. If you want to read their descriptions the exact address is: www.questformuscle.com/workoutprograms.html Any comments would be appriceated. Thanks

04-03-2005, 11:39 PM	#2
Sholiz Soldier In Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,992 Recipes: 3 Rep Power: 234	I'm more of a person who goes with an "individualized" plan, not something made for someone else then marketed. Anyway, you've got a site full of knowledge here. What else do you need . __________________ You hear me before you see me, I got King Kong in the trunk

04-04-2005, 12:29 AM	#5
Sholiz Soldier In Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,992 Recipes: 3 Rep Power: 234	When I say individualized, they don't know anything about you other than you have money and they want it. A few things they say there though, seem farfetched. 15lbs in 7 weeks? Some things just don't add up, just might be me, but I know what works for me and that's what I will apply. I'm one who works better in a lower rep range, and they don't know that before I start a program and for $14.00 they won't ajust it to suit me. Just my swayed opinion. __________________ You hear me before you see me, I got King Kong in the trunk

04-05-2005, 10:20 PM	#10
Fury20 New Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 8 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	If you have to pay, its not worth it. Go to the training section and read the post by IronRapist w/ all of the different training styles. Find one you like and try it. The best advice i can say is stick with it. Dont change in 2 weeks b/c someone on a forum said they gained X lbs with program "A". Stay with it and do NOT CHANGE IT. Try the way it is printed, @ least 2x, then maybe adjust it somewhat, but very very very little. Option B would be to compile what you like to do in the weight room into an organized system and follow it. Thats the best way to personalize your lifting. __________________ DC..it's as simple as that. I dont want to swim in a sea of similarity. That's crazy to me. I want to be a freak. I like it that way. I'm a 172 lbs with a long ass road ahead but i've got a big freakin cooler, a barbell, and some plates, so let's ride brothers.

04-05-2005, 11:38 PM	#11
antihero Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,688 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 33	pick something, and do it for about 6 months straight, then change. but only if ABSOLUTELY NECCESSARY. in that six months you will see a change....it doesnt happen in 2 weeks.....stick with it, and dont over analyze.... __________________ ****************** Disclaimer: Information given by me is my personal opinion. It cannot be considered medical advice and does not represent the official opinion of a company that is not a sponsor here. ******************

04-03-2005, 11:56 PM	#3
antihero Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,688 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 33	i dont think their stuff is worth paying for....ive seen some of their work, and its not that impressive...you'd be better off finding a log of someones, and adapting that to fit you....or just developing your own.....just my 2cents....

04-04-2005, 12:16 AM	#4
Jon789 New Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	To Sholiz, I'm not sure what you mean by individualized, but they do provide the weights for squat, deadlift, and bench press. I just thought I would ask about them, you've got admit that after reading some of the reviews its hard not too.

04-04-2005, 01:25 AM	#6
antihero Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,688 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 33	im with sholiz on this one...

04-04-2005, 02:21 AM	#7
Jon789 New Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	I'm not trying to defend them, I just wanted to see what you thought. I have no intention on trying any of those. I have my own program that I use. I'm sorry I didn't understand what you meant by individualized. And I agree with you on that. Alright, well, thank you.

04-04-2005, 05:38 PM	#8
sword chucks Pro Stature Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: in orange T-shirt Posts: 277 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Just make your own program wiht exercises you like best duh..

04-06-2005, 12:06 AM	#12
Jon789 New Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Guys, Chill out, you act like I thought these programs were the holy grail or something, I just asked what you thought. I wasn't about to try any of them. But thank you for your responses. I'm going to check out some of those programs you told me about. By the way, I am a powerlifter, not a bodybuilder. I have no intention to stay on any one program for 6 months. I alternate every 10-15 weeks. I have done 5x5 and about 3 other of my own programs I designed myself before. My way has worked pretty well for me so far. I have a question though, I was reading through here a few hours ago and it seems that most of you don't like the bench press. Personally I love it. but that is just my opinion. If you don't perform it, why not, and what don't you like about it? Thanks Last edited by Jon789 : 04-06-2005 at 12:12 AM.

04-07-2005, 10:49 AM	#14
Sholiz Soldier In Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,992 Recipes: 3 Rep Power: 234	I don't like bench press for the fact it puts you in a single fixed plane (like any exercise) but it puts undue stress on your pecs which in turn can (and may) cause a muscle tear. It's an unnatural plane of movement as far as I'm concerned, and there are just too many other exercises that could be substituted for it which would lead to better gains, IMO. __________________ You hear me before you see me, I got King Kong in the trunk

05-14-2005, 11:38 AM	#19
antihero Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,688 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 33	id pay for dante to fix up my diet and get me going on 100% perfect DC (in a few years), cause then id be a monster... __________________ ****************** Disclaimer: Information given by me is my personal opinion. It cannot be considered medical advice and does not represent the official opinion of a company that is not a sponsor here. ******************

05-23-2005, 03:42 AM	#20
LSU777 New Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	i'd only pay for 2 people DC and IRON ADDICT