Cuban Rotations

**davtown** · 03-01-2007, 05:20 AM

Anyone do these? I found this thread: http://www.ironmass.com/exercises/52...ighlight=cuban which had a slight mention for cuban presses.

Here is what I'm talking about in case anyone is confused: Strong Healthy Shoulders

I'm thinking of throwing these into the mix in April. If anyone else has done them or has opnions about them, any feedback is appreciated. If you decide to start doing them after reading this thread, report back with your experience.

**BigZeke** · 03-01-2007, 06:05 AM

I do them as part of my R/C exercises before all of my presses. I also do a set or two in between my heaviest sets of presses, depending on how my shoulders feel.

satyricon · 03-05-2007, 03:47 AM

it is a fantastic exercise that many olympic lifters use to for shoulder strength. it works best if you start with only the bar,heavy wts will cause more harm than good. do this move at a safe speed and do 2-3 sets of 6-8 reps. dont do them before or during other exercises or you risk injury. do them after or on a seperate day

**Ikaika** · 03-05-2007, 03:50 AM

hmmm looks interesting. I'll give them a shot, my rc's could probably use some strengthening.

**davtown** · 03-07-2007, 11:47 PM

I tried them on Monday, they felt good.... I like them. I'm going to give them another shot tonight and I'm definitely going to keep it as a part of my training.

**bigDman** · 03-08-2007, 12:04 AM

do them with dumbbells... Eric Cressey wrote a long thing about how its better to do them with dumbbells then a barbell

**davtown** · 03-08-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bigDman

do them with dumbbells... Eric Cressey wrote a long thing about how its better to do them with dumbbells then a barbell

You wouldn't happen to have a link or perhaps an explanation of the reason? I like to know the reasons behind why I do things - it's hard for me to take statements at face value. Any input would be appreciated.

**NYCmitch25** · 03-08-2007, 12:30 AM

ah... just ok. i think there are better movements out there. you want to get the external and internal rotation.

**bigDman** · 03-08-2007, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by davtown

You wouldn't happen to have a link or perhaps an explanation of the reason? I like to know the reasons behind why I do things - it's hard for me to take statements at face value. Any input would be appreciated.

better EMG activity of the infraspinatus and teres minor

**davtown** · 03-08-2007, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bigDman

better EMG activity of the infraspinatus and teres minor

Interesting. I have read his article titled "Cracking the Rotator Cuff Conundrum", however in that he prescribes barbell cubans. Do you have a link to the article where he changed his mind and said to use DBs? I would love to read it.

**DJSTARER** · 03-08-2007, 02:35 AM

i do them super light with DBs all the time. like 7.5s

**Trick D** · 03-08-2007, 03:45 AM

I think i might need to try these.... Anyone remember rocky presses? I use to do them all the time when I was young and dumb. Do a shoulder press behind your head then one in front and keep rotating. I think that is one of the many reasons why my shoulders are so bad off now... lol

**romanaz** · 03-08-2007, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Trick D

I think i might need to try these.... Anyone remember rocky presses? I use to do them all the time when I was young and dumb. Do a shoulder press behind your head then one in front and keep rotating. I think that is one of the many reasons why my shoulders are so bad off now... lol

you see Rocky 6? Rocky squats like 600lbs and clean and jerks 315!

**Trick D** · 03-08-2007, 04:05 AM

No i haven't, but stalone did get caught with roids a couple weeks ago.

**davtown** · 03-08-2007, 08:21 PM

I'll give them a shot with DBs tomorrow and see how they feel.

**bigDman** · 03-08-2007, 09:18 PM

Cracking The Rotator Cuff Conundrum - JP Fitness Forums

**davtown** · 03-08-2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bigDman

Cracking The Rotator Cuff Conundrum - JP Fitness Forums

Ah ok, thanks.

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Originally Posted by NYCmitch25

ah... just ok. i think there are better movements out there. you want to get the external and internal rotation.

I do other R/C exercises as well

03-01-2007, 05:20 AM	#1
davtown OM NOM NOM NOM Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,360 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 128	Cuban Rotations Anyone do these? I found this thread: http://www.ironmass.com/exercises/52...ighlight=cuban which had a slight mention for cuban presses. Here is what I'm talking about in case anyone is confused: Strong Healthy Shoulders I'm thinking of throwing these into the mix in April. If anyone else has done them or has opnions about them, any feedback is appreciated. If you decide to start doing them after reading this thread, report back with your experience. __________________ --Training Journal-- current/goal D: 350/380 S: 280/300 B: 235/260

03-01-2007, 06:05 AM	#2
BigZeke Bringing Lat Flares Back Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hell Raisin' and Girl Chasin' Posts: 2,290 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 70	I do them as part of my R/C exercises before all of my presses. I also do a set or two in between my heaviest sets of presses, depending on how my shoulders feel. __________________ Eat like a horse. Lift like a demon. Sleep like the dead. Only cheat on girls, never on your workouts My Workout Journal "I like the color red because it's a fire. And I see myself as always being on fire." -- Arnold Schwarzenegger

03-05-2007, 03:50 AM	#4
Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,662 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 214	hmmm looks interesting. I'll give them a shot, my rc's could probably use some strengthening. __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

03-07-2007, 11:47 PM	#5
davtown OM NOM NOM NOM Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,360 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 128	I tried them on Monday, they felt good.... I like them. I'm going to give them another shot tonight and I'm definitely going to keep it as a part of my training. __________________ --Training Journal-- current/goal D: 350/380 S: 280/300 B: 235/260

03-08-2007, 12:04 AM	#6
bigDman is missing heavy pulls Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,623 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 186	do them with dumbbells... Eric Cressey wrote a long thing about how its better to do them with dumbbells then a barbell __________________ COME CHECK OUT MY JOURNAL

03-05-2007, 03:47 AM	#3
satyricon Amateur Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 34 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	it is a fantastic exercise that many olympic lifters use to for shoulder strength. it works best if you start with only the bar,heavy wts will cause more harm than good. do this move at a safe speed and do 2-3 sets of 6-8 reps. dont do them before or during other exercises or you risk injury. do them after or on a seperate day

03-08-2007, 12:30 AM	#8
NYCmitch25 Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,085 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 50	ah... just ok. i think there are better movements out there. you want to get the external and internal rotation. __________________ "I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds." - Rollins

03-08-2007, 02:35 AM	#11
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 3,995 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 113	i do them super light with DBs all the time. like 7.5s __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

03-08-2007, 08:21 PM	#15
davtown OM NOM NOM NOM Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,360 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 128	I'll give them a shot with DBs tomorrow and see how they feel. __________________ --Training Journal-- current/goal D: 350/380 S: 280/300 B: 235/260

03-08-2007, 09:18 PM	#16
bigDman is missing heavy pulls Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,623 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 186	Cracking The Rotator Cuff Conundrum - JP Fitness Forums __________________ COME CHECK OUT MY JOURNAL

03-21-2007, 06:21 PM	#18