Bicep tendonitis

Nitrous · 03-13-2006, 10:19 PM

So i was pretty big for my size last summer and then school came and i stopped working out properly in september...so i came back in december and I have been working out very hard and consistently. Although, a few weeks ago my shoulder started giving me trouble a bit like it was pinching. So i took it easy for a couple weeks and then came back and it is doing alright but still just a little tender when i massage it hard with my thumb..so i decided to look into it a bit and it is right at the front of my shoulder only and it sounds like bicep tendonitis..they basically just say to take it easy...

what i am curious is could this be from me upping the weight so much so fast because i am coming back? or could it be my form aswell...the only thing that i am doing differently is when i have been doing shoulders and i am doing exercises like seated barbell military press i bring it down to my chest so that my arms are more like 50 degrees instead of stopping at 90 degees...and bringing it down right to my chest so again my arms are having to go far back..any opinions or comments? thanks guys..shoulder is fine i just dont want it to get worse

SoMdHunter · 03-13-2006, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitrous

So i was pretty big for my size last summer and then school came and i stopped working out properly in september...so i came back in december and I have been working out very hard and consistently. Although, a few weeks ago my shoulder started giving me trouble a bit like it was pinching. So i took it easy for a couple weeks and then came back and it is doing alright but still just a little tender when i massage it hard with my thumb..so i decided to look into it a bit and it is right at the front of my shoulder only and it sounds like bicep tendonitis..they basically just say to take it easy...

what i am curious is could this be from me upping the weight so much so fast because i am coming back? or could it be my form aswell...the only thing that i am doing differently is when i have been doing shoulders and i am doing exercises like seated barbell military press i bring it down to my chest so that my arms are more like 50 degrees instead of stopping at 90 degees...and bringing it down right to my chest so again my arms are having to go far back..any opinions or comments? thanks guys..shoulder is fine i just dont want it to get worse

Nitrous: If I have the correct location, it sounds more like the anterior (front) deltoid more than the bicep. If it is to the side, then it may be the medial deltoid or a rotator cuff problem. One normally doesn't develop bicep problems from doing a press motion, only a curling motion. If you can still curl without pain, it isn't your bicep.

Nitrous · 03-13-2006, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SoMdHunter

Nitrous: If I have the correct location, it sounds more like the anterior (front) deltoid more than the bicep. If it is to the side, then it may be the medial deltoid or a rotator cuff problem. One normally doesn't develop bicep problems from doing a press motion, only a curling motion. If you can still curl without pain, it isn't your bicep.

hmm...ya i can curl plenty without pain...its really only the shoulder workouts and chest workouts that cause the discomfort..

**NYCmitch25** · 03-13-2006, 10:42 PM

yep. sounds like the biceps tendon cuz its rubbing on the head of the humerous. sounds like you are developing a "shoulder impingement." its caused by muscle imbalance in your shoulder. the arcomion arch is obstructed. you need to strengthen the rotator cuff musles upper delts and muscles around the spine. due take a break from the overhead pressing movements they are going to make it hurt more. if i can get a scanner going ill post up some exercises/stretching. get a referal for PT and "nip it in the bud." dont worry they are very common. if its minor impingement and not caused by bone spur or other obstructipn then prob 4-6 weeks it will disappear.

Nitrous · 03-13-2006, 10:57 PM

awesome..ya at this point feels very minor as i can still go and push my max on bench...just might feel a it a little tomorrow kinda thing so i dont want it to get worse...so basically my shoulders aren't big enough to support chest and bi's and tri's or what? thanks for the help guys

**Grunt76** · 03-13-2006, 11:39 PM

What you want to do is get on devil's claw root. It is an inexpensive herbal anti-inflammatory that has no known negative side-effects. It has been used for over 15,000 years. Get some, dose high, stop doing what hurts for a couple weeks, get slowly back into it ONLY if there is no pain, and then it should be gone for good. Continue with a low dose for a month or so, and then you can stop. Keep some handy in case it flares up. The thing with tendonitis is that it is very difficult to make disappear, but it does tend to get progressively worse over time. By the time it is seriously keeping you from training, you'll need a very powerful treatment and monthS of time off to get rid of it... Devil's claw root is cheap and effective, especially as a preemptive treatment before or in the early stages...

Nitrous · 03-14-2006, 12:11 AM

awesome thanks...any ideas what would have caused this? the shoulder is too small or my form from what i discribed or whatchya figure?

**Peaked_18** · 03-14-2006, 12:26 AM

Did you pull a 700 lb. rack pull with your arms under/over hand position?

Nitrous · 03-14-2006, 12:32 AM

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Did you pull a 700 lb. rack pull with your arms under/over hand position?

mmm no lol...but i have been doing strait leg dead lifts with more weight i guess that could be causing some of it

Nitrous · 03-14-2006, 12:42 AM

another comment is this is on my right side..i also can't straighten my right arm due to breaking the elbow like 7 years ago.. could it be that because of that i'm just not stretching it properly now?

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**DarkFalcon** · 03-14-2006, 01:10 AM

I used to have the exact same problem only really bad. I got rid of it for the most part through very thorough warm ups on chest and shoulder days. Make sure you do your RC exercises, if your gym has a hand bike use that for 3-5mins before stretching. Then make sure your properly stretched and have done enough warm up set's before your working set. I guarantee a huge difference in a month. Also be on the lookout for possible muscle imbalance such as underdeveloped rear delts.

Nitrous · 03-14-2006, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

I used to have the exact same problem only really bad. I got rid of it for the most part through very thorough warm ups on chest and shoulder days. Make sure you do your RC exercises, if your gym has a hand bike use that for 3-5mins before stretching. Then make sure your properly stretched and have done enough warm up set's before your working set. I guarantee a huge difference in a month. Also be on the lookout for possible muscle imbalance such as underdeveloped rear delts.

you are probably right my warmups have been deffinately lacking...gonna change that immediately...no hand bike but deffinately gonna warmup more before hand...thanks man

Minotaur · 03-14-2006, 01:39 PM

I am going through a flare up of bicipital tendonitis right now. I laid off benching for almost 4 weeks but it was no help. So I told my sports chiro last night, and he started working on it. He used heat, electric muscle stim, and pressure points. It made a big difference. Doc said "And I suppose you're going to undo all my work?". I said hell no! I guess I have to lay off benching for a while more.

~~PROD1GY~~ · 03-14-2006, 02:28 PM

I heard that taking Ibuprofen 3x daily and icing it in between with alot of stretching works well

Nitrous · 03-15-2006, 09:03 PM

whats your guys' opinion on me bringing the weight down so low that my arms basically go less than 90 degrees?

**DarkFalcon** · 03-15-2006, 09:33 PM

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whats your guys' opinion on me bringing the weight down so low that my arms basically go less than 90 degrees?

Huh? You mean bending you elbows backward?

Nitrous · 03-15-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Huh? You mean bending you elbows backward?

when say i am doing flat bench dumbell military press and i bring the waits right down to my chest...so as i bring the weights to my chest my arms will turn into 90 degrees as the weights are like 2 or 3 inches off my chest..i then bring it down a little bit further so that the angle in my arms is like 70 or something close to that..you know what i mean? like should i always bring it down that low or just stop at 90 degrees?

**DarkFalcon** · 03-15-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitrous

when say i am doing flat bench dumbell military press and i bring the waits right down to my chest...so as i bring the weights to my chest my arms will turn into 90 degrees as the weights are like 2 or 3 inches off my chest..i then bring it down a little bit further so that the angle in my arms is like 70 or something close to that..you know what i mean? like should i always bring it down that low or just stop at 90 degrees?

Oh I thought you were talking about curling. A bit past 90 is fine but don't over do it to the point your risking injury. As long as your getting a good stretch and squeeze at the top you'll get all you need.

Nitrous · 03-15-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Oh I thought you were talking about curling. A bit past 90 is fine but don't over do it to the point your risking injury. As long as your getting a good stretch and squeeze at the top you'll get all you need.

okay cool...so i'll go low but not too low...

03-13-2006, 10:19 PM	#1
Nitrous Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atown, BC Posts: 169 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	Bicep tendonitis So i was pretty big for my size last summer and then school came and i stopped working out properly in september...so i came back in december and I have been working out very hard and consistently. Although, a few weeks ago my shoulder started giving me trouble a bit like it was pinching. So i took it easy for a couple weeks and then came back and it is doing alright but still just a little tender when i massage it hard with my thumb..so i decided to look into it a bit and it is right at the front of my shoulder only and it sounds like bicep tendonitis..they basically just say to take it easy... what i am curious is could this be from me upping the weight so much so fast because i am coming back? or could it be my form aswell...the only thing that i am doing differently is when i have been doing shoulders and i am doing exercises like seated barbell military press i bring it down to my chest so that my arms are more like 50 degrees instead of stopping at 90 degees...and bringing it down right to my chest so again my arms are having to go far back..any opinions or comments? thanks guys..shoulder is fine i just dont want it to get worse

03-14-2006, 01:39 PM	#14
Minotaur Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Monmouth County, New Jersey Posts: 103 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	I am going through a flare up of bicipital tendonitis right now. I laid off benching for almost 4 weeks but it was no help. So I told my sports chiro last night, and he started working on it. He used heat, electric muscle stim, and pressure points. It made a big difference. Doc said "And I suppose you're going to undo all my work?". I said hell no! I guess I have to lay off benching for a while more. __________________ "You monsters are such interesting creatures! I was just saying to my girlfriend, just the other day, 'Monsters are such interesting people! Why I'll bet they lead such interesting lives!' The things you must see and the things you must do! My stars!"

03-13-2006, 10:42 PM	#4
NYCmitch25 Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,099 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 50	yep. sounds like the biceps tendon cuz its rubbing on the head of the humerous. sounds like you are developing a "shoulder impingement." its caused by muscle imbalance in your shoulder. the arcomion arch is obstructed. you need to strengthen the rotator cuff musles upper delts and muscles around the spine. due take a break from the overhead pressing movements they are going to make it hurt more. if i can get a scanner going ill post up some exercises/stretching. get a referal for PT and "nip it in the bud." dont worry they are very common. if its minor impingement and not caused by bone spur or other obstructipn then prob 4-6 weeks it will disappear.

03-13-2006, 10:57 PM	#5
Nitrous Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atown, BC Posts: 169 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	awesome..ya at this point feels very minor as i can still go and push my max on bench...just might feel a it a little tomorrow kinda thing so i dont want it to get worse...so basically my shoulders aren't big enough to support chest and bi's and tri's or what? thanks for the help guys

03-14-2006, 12:11 AM	#7
Nitrous Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atown, BC Posts: 169 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	awesome thanks...any ideas what would have caused this? the shoulder is too small or my form from what i discribed or whatchya figure?

03-14-2006, 12:26 AM	#8
Peaked_18 a la commode Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,247 Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96	Did you pull a 700 lb. rack pull with your arms under/over hand position?

03-14-2006, 12:42 AM	#10
Nitrous Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atown, BC Posts: 169 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	another comment is this is on my right side..i also can't straighten my right arm due to breaking the elbow like 7 years ago.. could it be that because of that i'm just not stretching it properly now?

03-14-2006, 12:57 AM	#11
~~PROD1GY~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 386 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Get CISSUS its a miracle supp really is I wish i can take it but im on xf

03-14-2006, 01:10 AM	#12
DarkFalcon I've got a RAGING clue! Join Date: May 2005 Location: dnyc99's cleaning staff Posts: 11,511 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 299	I used to have the exact same problem only really bad. I got rid of it for the most part through very thorough warm ups on chest and shoulder days. Make sure you do your RC exercises, if your gym has a hand bike use that for 3-5mins before stretching. Then make sure your properly stretched and have done enough warm up set's before your working set. I guarantee a huge difference in a month. Also be on the lookout for possible muscle imbalance such as underdeveloped rear delts.

03-14-2006, 02:28 PM	#15
~~PROD1GY~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 386 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	I heard that taking Ibuprofen 3x daily and icing it in between with alot of stretching works well

03-15-2006, 09:03 PM	#16
Nitrous Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atown, BC Posts: 169 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	whats your guys' opinion on me bringing the weight down so low that my arms basically go less than 90 degrees?