Thermolife's Tribosten Test log

**Grunt76** · 01-19-2006, 05:18 PM

Tribosten - Protodioscin Delivery System

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5mg Bioperine®

60 Tablets = $42.50

ThermoLife International is now shipping the first tribulus terrestris product to ever contain more than 20% protodioscin. This is important because protodioscin is the active ingredient in tribulus terrestris that is responsible for stimulating the luteinizing hormone and raising testosterone levels (naturally). Most supplement companies just sell tribulus with no active ingredient. Hell, most companies do not even know what protodioscin is. To prove this we have commissioned analytical studies on 8 of the top selling products that contain tribulus terrestris. The results are a damning indictment of many of the fraudulent claims being made by some of the biggest companies in the unregulated industry of dietary supplements. The lab reports are posted right here so you can see for yourself just how much active ingredients these products don't have. Anybody who tries the new Tribosten will know the difference. ThermoLife International is the first and only company to ever release a tribulus terrestris based protodioscin product of this magnitude. See the lab results for yourself and learn which companies are selling products with no active ingredients and which companies are selling fraudulent products.

For example: EAS has a label claim of 35mg of protodioscin in each serving of EcdyMax but the lab report reveals that each serving of EcdyMax contains 0.0mg of protodioscin per serving. See how inferior the rest of the companies compare next to the high standard of ThermoLife International products.

Click here to see the actual lab report that exposes the fraud being committed by some of the biggest (and shadiest) companies in the sports supplement industry. (PDF)

The new Tribosten is now in stock and contains a minimum of 20% protodioscin. Be the first to experience the only real, natural, holistic way to elevated testosterone levels.

Suggested Use:
As a dietary supplement take one (1) to two (2) tablets three (3) times per day with meals.

Tribosten™ – Protodioscin Delivery System ™ has taken over as the worlds # 1 tribulus terrestris product. ThermoLife International's research and development team has worked directly with the first and only American scientists to separate pure protodioscin from the tribulus terrestris plant.

Previously, this technology was only known to a handful of Bulgarian scientists who kept this secret under lock and key. This new technology has enabled ThermoLife International to produce Tribosten, a superior tribulus terrestris product with a higher percentage of protodioscin than anything else ever available before. This is important because protodioscin is the active ingredient in tribulus terrestris that is responsible for stimulating the Luteinizing Hormone and ultimately raising testosterone levels (naturally). This combined with Bioperine, a patented extract for increasing bio-availability of oral supplements guarantees you the finest tribulus product your money can buy and the only Protodioscin Delivery System available.

Clinical Studies

[There's lots of them and would make too long a post. Look at the Thermolife product page if you need to read them: http://www.thermolife.com/store/scri...sp?idproduct=2 ]

Dosage

Tribosten comes as packages of 60 tablets. Recommended dosage on the package is 1 to 2 tablets, 3 times a day, for a total of 3 to 6 tablets. Being 228lbs at the moment, I will use the higher dosage of 6 tablets every day, for a test duration of 20 days. I am 38 years old and my testosterone is lower than it was in my '20s, a little bit like it would be in PCT for younger people.

Criteria

A tribulus product is pretty subjective. I will do my best to be as objective as possible but of course it's all about how it affects MY body. Measurements will be taken at onset of test and at the end. Specific criteria will be:

1) Energy
2) Aggressiveness in the gym
3) Recovery
4) Changes in measurements, body composition
5) Libido

Thermolife has also kindly included 5 sample packs of Stizm, which I will also give a try and report how it feels, although the primary objective of this log is to report on Tribosten. This log will be updated daily.

**Grunt76** · 01-19-2006, 05:19 PM

Bodyweight, 228lbs
Left forearm, 14¼"
Left bicep, 17¾"
Around bellybutton, 37½"
Left thigh, 27½"
Left calf, 18"

I will go to the gym shortly. I have just begun the Tribosten a few minutes ago but will update the thread with my workout performance for consistency.

**Grunt76** · 01-19-2006, 10:10 PM

Today I did Arms & Traps, a short 14-set workout with lots of supersets. Of course I can't feel anything from the Tribosten yet, but I did take a half-serving of Stizm (1 cap) 45 minutes prior to and I must say I liked it a lot. Increased sweating, focus, no jitters. Usually I don't like how stims make me feel, but in this case, I find no downside to its use. We'll see how sleep goes tonight and then I might try a full dose later on.

The workout lasted 45 minutes, after which I did 40 minutes of aerobics, 15 minutes on the recumbent bike and 25 minutes incline walking on the treadmill.

As per my fitday.com account, total calories are:
Expended: 3982
Absorbed: ???? - Will know later.

Since I am in the process of recomping, that is using calories that are near maintenance and leaning out while maintaining/growing muscle, these numbers are of interest in my case. As are the measurements, which will only be reported on again at the very end of this log.

**Grunt76** · 01-20-2006, 03:36 AM

Can't edit the messages on this board, dammit. Aaaaanyways, I wanted to report that my calories ingested today are 3241 (201g protein). And this concludes today's coverage.

**Grunt76** · 01-21-2006, 04:57 AM

First effect I noticed is that upon waking up, my "boys" are larger than normal.

I must also report that on a scale of -10 to 0 (baseline) to +10, both my energy and libido seem +1. But it's early so this might be placebo.

Did arms & Traps, followed by 30 minutes of cardio.

As per my fitday log, calories were:
Spent: 3730
Absorbed: 2957

**DarkFalcon** · 01-21-2006, 05:07 AM

Nice log bro! This is one I'm interested in so I'll be following along. Interesting to read about EAS's deception. Good thing I've never bought their products.

comfortable_pants · 01-22-2006, 10:52 PM

gnarly log

**Grunt76** · 01-23-2006, 01:22 AM

Gnarly? Uh... Hmm... If I knew what that means...

Yes day 3 was yesterday. I add up my cals & stuff at the very end of the day and, well, I had company last night, so I got sidetracked.

Was an off day. Had some surprising lethargy during the day, I don't know if it's related to the supplement. Libido seems about +2.

Calories:
Expended: 3093
Absorbed: 2202 (45% fat, 26% carbs, 30% protein)

**Grunt76** · 01-23-2006, 01:28 AM

Day 4 is today, another off day.

Nothing new to report.

Calories:
Expended: 3093 - Well that's what fitday says. I think it's more like 2293...

Absorbed: 1924 (28% fat, 31% carbs, 41% protein)

**Grunt76** · 01-24-2006, 03:23 AM

Today I trained back & calves. Right now I'm doing super-short workouts of 30 minutes. The reason for that is that I feel I need a lot of cardio to trim down and I also feel that doing 45-60 minutes of weights followed by 45 minutes of aerobic activity would shoot my cortisol way up, and this would be terribly counterproductive IMO. The last few years have seen me go into deep catabolism whenever I tried adding cardio after my 45-minute weights workout. I am 38 and it is starting to show. On top of the Tribosten, I also had a half-serving of Stizm.

Nice focus, good energy. I like the Stizm. I'm feeling pretty normal, except perhaps my appetite doesn't get to me so much, allowing me to eat somewhat less. Of course, I still cook for my usual appetite, but I feel I'll be able to cut that down if the appetite regulation is a fact of the Trib and not the Stizm. I don't know yet.

I am now 225 lbs, this is a nice surprise. Let's see if that holds. I have made some changes in my supplementation, starting yesterday I am dropping milk thistle from my stack of usual supplements. It is somewhat anti-anabolic and my liver is doing just fine.

Back & Calves: 30 minutes
Treadmill aerobics: 40 minutes

Calories:
Expended: 3892
Absorbed: 3199 (48% fat , 28% carbs, 24% protein = 185g)

**Grunt76** · 01-25-2006, 03:07 AM

Busy day today. I only got 3 meals, including one at a lady friend's. These gurlz, they all like to cook for me. Pasta with veggies and cream & cheese sauce.

Yummy. :o What is it with these women? Do they know nothing about nutrition or are they purposefully trying to make me fat right when I'm in recomp mode???

So I trained chest on a whole serving of Stizm. This Stizm stuff is very nice. To me, it's as good as a low dose of meth. I mean, I don't feel stimulated, just wide awake. That, and walking back from the gym, I didn't have my usual feeling of wanting to take it slow coming back. Full steam ahead, it was. Since the gym is about 30 minutes' walk away from my place, I often walk there and back, which gives me an additional 60 minutes of low-intensity aerobics.

My bodyweight was right at 225lbs again today, so that is very good news. I'm not experiencing any rise in strength or mass, but this weight loss does seem to come a bit easier than usual.

Today's nutritional misbehaving:
Expended: 3767
Absorbed: 3216 (33% fat, 43% carbs, 24% protein=188g)

comfortable_pants · 01-25-2006, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grunt76

Gnarly? Uh... Hmm... If I knew what that means...

gnarly means rad, bodacious, splendiferous. you remember the 90's, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grunt76

Busy day today. I only got 3 meals, including one at a lady friend's. These gurlz, they all like to cook for me. Pasta with veggies and cream & cheese sauce. Yummy. What is it with these women? Do they know nothing about nutrition or are they purposefully trying to make me fat right when I'm in recomp mode???

Dito will be here shortly to ask you if you had a gangbang with these women

keep up the good work

**Grunt76** · 01-26-2006, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comfortable_pants

gnarly means rad, bodacious, splendiferous. you remember the 90's, right?

Dito will be here shortly to ask you if you had a gangbang with these women

keep up the good work

Thanks. My usual language and mother tongue is French so even though I seem to do OK in English, I still miss some bits here and there. Most people here in the province of Québec speak French and are descendents of French. The culinary culture also descends from that and you know what it means: lots of cream, butter and cheese. This is yummy and all, but unless doing a CKD, downright counterproductive. More on that in a minute... :o

So it was a day off. Had breakfast with a lady friend and dinner with another one, and - did I say it? - These gurlz like to cook in a way that is almost absolutely contrary to the bodybuilding ways. Lots of cheese and pasta. Cookies with the movie!!

WTF! Had a good time though.

Libido is OK, which is all good. OK means it's a bit higher than normal, but I still get to keep control. I like knowing that my actual brain is making the decisions and keeps control of my genitalia and not the other way around, which is way too much trouble. I did try quite a few supplements that have enhanced libido among their side-effects, but this is usually accompanied by an almost total lack of mental control. Crotch decides and brain makes up a reason why it's a good idea. Not so here. I get to keep my cool, but when time comes to act, the power is there.

Almost forgot. On day 6 I had a whole serving of Stizm around 2PM before going to the gym. I didn't get to sleep until about 2:00 or 2:30 AM... So I think I'll be careful with that from now on.

Calories
Expended: 3141
Absorbed: 3016 (39% fat, 38% carbs, 23% protein = 169g)

**Grunt76** · 01-27-2006, 11:29 PM

Trained legs. Lots of willpower, my knees didn't hurt so I lifted with confidence and focus. I feel good overall. Besides that, my sac is fuller than usual.

Weight steady at 225, good news. I think the fitday numbers are good after all.

Calories:
Expended: 3692
Absorbed: 2114 (36% fat, 44% carbs, 19% protein :o)

**Grunt76** · 01-29-2006, 11:31 PM

I got sidetracked with my log. I trained arms & traps and found my weights up a little, while keeping the bodyweight at 225. Nice, especially considering the caloric deficit of days 8 and 9. Energy is very good, as is resistance to hunger.

Calories
Expended: 3622
Absorbed: 2526 (39% Fat, 38% Carbs, 23% protein)

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DarkFalcon I've got a RAGING clue! Join Date: May 2005 Location: dnyc99's cleaning staff Posts: 11,511 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 299	Nice log bro! This is one I'm interested in so I'll be following along. Interesting to read about EAS's deception. Good thing I've never bought their products.