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Old 08-09-2006, 10:47 PM   #1
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Default SoMdHunter's PRIMED and N'Gorge ALRI Sponsored Log

I would like to thank ALRI for the chance to test out their N’Gorge and PRIMED supplements stack. I’m really looking forward to doing this log as it has been 4 months since the last time I was on any creatine or NO supplements.

N’Gorge offers a unique Creatine Ethyl Ester & Nitric Oxide Complex designed for increased pumps, strength and vascularity. I noticed the label on N’Gorge indicated it contained 2g of CEE, whereas ALRI Cr2 offers 2250mgs of CEE. However, the serving size is 2 capsules per day higher with N’Gorge, so I’m looking forward to seeing how this affects me.

The 2nd part of this stack is the PRIMED, designed to provide energy, focus, stamina and power. The 125mg of caffeine should provide that “kick” for lifting. I’m not a big fan of sugars, and with 10g of sugar, this is a bit more than I would like. It seems supplements that are too sweet do not settle well on my stomach when I’m sweating and working like hell in the gym. I’m however, curious to see how this watermelon flavor tastes, since it looks like really old brown sugar.

My routine generally falls into a 2 day split, although I may lift for 3 straight days before taking a break, depending on the workload with my job.
My typical week of lifting will usually look like this:

Monday Back/Bi’s
Tues Chest/Tri’s
Wed Off
Thurs Legs/Abs
Fri Shoulders/Traps
Sat Off
Sun Off

I may also throw in an arm day in there where I work bi's and tri's using isolation movements if I feel the need.

During this testing, my food intake will remain relatively unchanged so as to eliminate this as a variable. My macro's consist of chicken, lean beef, sweet potatoes, broccoli, cauliflower, green beans and other fresh vegetables, brown rice, oats, salmon, swordfish, tuna, eggs, cottage cheese, multi-vitamins and protein shakes. I'm attempting a slow bulk right now, as I have found out at my age I can add fat quicker than muscle, even on a clean diet. So I keep my calorie intake just a bit higher than maintenance level. I have lost a couple of pounds I didn’t intend to, and as of today I weighed in at 204lbs. So you can see that at 6’2”, I’m no Jay, that is for sure.

When I post my routines, I’ll list the sets and reps with the actual weight I am able to lift. I don’t have an ego to feed, so I really don’t care if someone thinks I’m weak or not. I give each routine everything I have, with controlled movements to make the muscle work as hard as possible. I will then list that routine as easy, moderate, heavy, very heavy or muscle failure effort. These categories are relative to me, and are only provided as a frame of reference so I can tell if I am making progress week after week.

And finally, the product says to take 4 capsules 2 times daily, even on non training days. I’ll start the N’Gorge tomorrow morning, as it is leg day for me. I’ve already done my chest and back routine for the week, but I’m anxious to get this started. The container has 240 capsules, enough for 30 days, while the PRIMED container labels reads 20 servings per container.

At the end of this log, I will post a summation of how the stack affected my lifts, strength, endurance and overall impression of the products. If anyone has questions along the way, don’t hesitate to chime in. Again, I would like to thank ALRI for selecting me as one of their testers.
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Default Day 1 on PRIMED and N'Gorge Stack

Today was the first day on the PRIMED and N'Gorge Stack. My first dose of N'Gorge was at 10:30 this morning just before my snack. The 2nd dose and PRIMED was taken 35 minutes before I got to the gym.

As for the mixability of PRIMED, it mixes very well in cold water stirring it up with a spoon. The contents in my container were a bit hard and clumped together, like the powder had gotten damp, but I managed to bust up the pieces enough to get 2 level scoops as per the instructions.

Taste wasn't really too bad, but I can't honestly say it tasted like watermelon. It is difficult to say what it tastes like, not unbearable...almost a tangy fruit flavor of some sort. A kiwi maybe? Something like that. After-taste was not unpleasant and didn't really linger very long.

Food today was slightly above normal, consisting of decaf coffee, multi-vitamins, chicken breast cubes, cottage cheese, waffles, 2 protein shakes, a banana, whole wheat crackers, wheat pasta, lean boneless pork chops and mixed vegetables. If I continue to loose weight, I’ll up this a bit.

Ever drift off to sleep and be woken up, only to realize it really is time to get up? Man, what a short night! I needed a rerun just to make sure I got my daily dose of sleep!

Today was a light leg and ab day for me. Reason being is I hurt my left knee 4 weeks ago doing squats, and I wanted to give it plenty of time to heal up. During warm-ups with no weight on the hack squat machine, my left knee was really starting to hurt. I didn’t think I was going to be able to even do a lift, but after 50 or so deep squats, it started feeling much better. I don’t do barbell squats due to a lower back injury when I was in the service, so I use the squat machine. Anyway, after getting my legs ready to go, I started my routine, which went like this.

Squat Machine 12x90/ 12x180/ 12x270 (easy – moderate effort) My left knee was still feeling a bit tight, but there was no pain while lifting.

Leg Curls 10x80/ 10x90/ 10x100 (easy-moderate effort)

Weighted Ab Crunches 12x60/ 12x60/ 12x70 (moderate effort)

Standing Calf Raises 25x200/ 20x250/ 20x300/ 20x300 (easy-moderate effort)

Leg Presses 12x270/ 12x360/ 10x450 (easy-heavy effort)

Leg Raises (Cap’n Chairs) 4x12 = 48 reps (moderate effort)

Hamflexors 12x50/ 10x60/ 10x60 (moderate-heavy effort)

Incline Leg Lifts 3x8 = 24 reps (moderate-heavy effort)

That was the routine for the night. I could certainly tell it had been almost a month since I did legs and abs. The weights were quickly getting heavy to me, even though I was giving it all I had. Tomorrow will be a shoulders and traps routine for me. Maybe once the supplements kick-in I can get past my DB shoulder press sticking point, but more about that tomorrow.
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Default Day 2 on PRIMED and N'Gorge Supplement Stack

Today was my shoulder and traps routine. By far this is my weakest routine that I do, so as a data point, I chose to take all the shoulder lifts to muscle failure. This will give me an idea of the gains I see at the end of the test period. Also, since this is my weakest routine, it should prove to be more accurate in seeing any strength gains.

First dose of N’Gorge was at 9:30am as I anticipated on lifting earlier today than I normally would since it was my day off. Food consumption today was oats, 2 whole eggs and 4 egg whites, decaf coffee, lasagna for lunch with garlic toast, a protein shake, tenderloin steak and sweet potato, banana, multi-vitamins and casein protein before bed, but not in that exact order.

Grabbed some more N’Gorge at 2:30pm and washed them down with 2 scoops of PRIMED (correctly dosed this time!), and was at the gym about 3:00pm. I still can’t pin point the taste PRIMED has, but it is indeed most unusual. Not to take anything away from the product, but after mixing it up, it sort of looks like really dirty water. As expected it mixes very easily with just a spoon, so I chugged everything down and headed off to the gym. Here is what I did…..just don’t laugh.

Shoulder DB Presses 15x40 as warmups 10x50/ 10x50/ 10x55/ 6x60 (moderate-muscle failure)

DB Shrugs 15x60/ 15x70/ 12x80/ 12x90/ 10x100 (easy-moderate effort)

Shoulder Press Machine 10x160/ 10x170/ 7x180 (moderate-muscle failure)

Lateral Raise Machine 10x25/ 10x30/ 8x30 (heavy-muscle failure)
This specific machine is a Promaxima Model P126 designed to really isolate the delts. One can google it on the internet if you are interested in how it works. Definitely a strength builder.

Standing Calf Machine Shrugs 20x200/ 20x250/ 15x300 (moderate-heavy effort)
If you have never tried shrugs on a standing calf machine, give it a try. It really targets the traps, and you can go heavy as hell!

Lateral Cable Raises 10x30/ 10x35/ 10x40 (moderate-very heavy)
Seated Lateral DB Raises 10x20/ 10x20/ 8x25 (moderate-muscle failure)

Hammer Strength Shrug Machine 10x180/ 10x270/ 10x360 (heavy-very heavy effort)

Reverse Pec Dec Flys 10x90/ 10x100/ 10x110 (heavy-muscle failure)

That was the routine for the day. My traps and rear delts had developed an incredible pump to them. Endurance was certainly up, as I still had a bit left in the tank, even though the muscles were exhausted.

I plan on doing a short arm workout tomorrow since I really didn’t get a good workout to them earlier this week. I won’t do anything really outlandish, but enough to get a good pump. I want to have something left before starting next week.

Sunday will be an off day dedicated for tanning now that the heat wave has broken. If anyone has comments or suggestions, please let me know.
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Yep the Primed looks like Tea to me, If it was green Id still drink it! LOL Im curious to see how you like these products tomorrow on arm day, I must warn you, with my arm training I get pumps so big it hurts, as I do super sets with preacher curl and hammer curl, so take it easy at first!!!!!!

Very nice log!!!!! I like it, I like it alot
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Default I Agree......I Love Arm Day!

Today the wife and I hit the gym late-morning for an arm routine. Nothing too serious, but enough to get a good pump going. I took it easy on the weights so as not to impact my back routine for Monday night. Breakfast was 1 cup of oats, with 4 eggs whites and 1 yoke with low fat cheese, decaf coffee and my multi. After a quick shower, I gulped down 12oz of water, my PRIMED mixed up in 8oz of water and 4 N’Gorge capsules. Here’s the routine this morning:

1 Arm Cable Curls 12x30/ 12x35/ 12x40 (easy effort)

1 Arm Cable Push downs 12x30/ 12x35/ 12x40 (easy effort)

Notice a trend here folks? These were simply warm up sets to prevent injury.

Tricep Cable Pushdowns 12x150/ 12x150/ 12x150 (easy-moderate effort)
This one was with both arms this time.

EZ Bar Cable Curls 12x80/ 12x90/ 12x100 (easy effort)

DB Kickbacks 12x20/ 12x25/ 12x30 (easy-moderate effort)
I noticed I was really starting to get a good pump to my tri’s by now.

Hammer Curls 12x25/ 12x30/ 12x35/ 10x40/ 8x45 (moderate effort)
With this many reps, my bi’s were fully pumped! Man I was feeling strong!

Dip Machine 12x230/ 10x270/ 8x300 (moderate-heavy effort)
I normally do regular dips at bodyweight, but on occasion, I will use the dip machine to add weights for heavier lifting. This specific machine is much like a see-saw we used to play on as kids. Difference is you can add as much weight as you want on the opposite end. Great for mass building!

EZ Barbell Curls 10x65/ 10x75/ 10x85/ 6x90 (moderate-heavy effort)

That was the routine for today. Like I said, nothing spectacular for sure. However, I found I was actually having to hold myself back today. I felt really strong, had some great pumps and could have gone heavier. The PRIMED had kicked in really well, and the pumps I was getting to my arms was great! I wasn’t even tired when I left the gym. My arms felt huge, even though they are still pretty small, but with the help of ALRI, I’m working on it!

Tomorrow is an off day, catching up on some calorie intake and working on my tan while the weather is still nice. See ya on Monday!
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Default Day 5 on PRIMED and N'Gorge Stack

Today was dedicated to working back and bi’s. Quantity of food consumed was average, consisting of 1 cup of oats, multi’s, 4 egg whites and 2 whole eggs, protein shake, 6oz chicken breast cubed with wheat crackers, chicken breast sandwich on wheat bread, low fat cottage cheese, lean boneless pork chops, 1 whole sweet potato, steamed broccoli and cauliflower, 1 banana, 8 steamed prunes and a casein protein shake.

I’ve been feeling really good the last few days, so I was ready to hit the gym today. I decided to lift in the moderate to heavy range today to give everyone an idea of where my strength range is. Here is what was accomplished at the gym.

Wide Grip Pulldowns 15x140 as warmups 10x170/ 10x190/ 8x210 (moderate-muscle failure)

Straight Arm Cable Pushdowns 12x150/ 12x150/ 12x150 (easy-moderate effort)

Iso Row Machine 10x135/ 10x135 (both hands at once) 10x180 (one hand) (moderate-heavy effort)

Chinups 6x6x5x5x5x3 = 30 reps The goal here is to get 30 reps in a few sets as possible.

Preacher Bench DB Curls 10x30/ 10x35/ 8x40 (moderate-heavy effort)

Seated Cable Rows 10x180/ 8x190/ 6x200 (moderate-heavy effort)

Hammer Strength Iso Back Machine 10x180/ 10x180/ 7x200 (moderate-muscle failure)

Seated Preacher Curls 12x150/ 12x170/ 10x190 (heavy-very heavy effort)

That was the routine for the night. You’ll notice I don’t do dead lifts, and this is due to a lower back injury sustained while in the military. I could put on a belt and go for it, but I’m not taking the chance. Also, I normally do T-Bars rows as well, but I decided on Seated Cable Rows and the Iso Back machine instead for tonight. I like to switch things up every couple of weeks on some of my routines. Next week, I’ll probably return to the T-Bar rows.

I was happy to see strength was up a tad tonight, and endurance was really good. I left the gym feeling really good, with excellent pumps to my lats and bi’s. Tomorrow night will be chest and tri’s, followed by a day off. Hope everyone is enjoying the log so far.
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Default Day 6 on the PRIMED and N'Gorge Stack

Food today was slightly below normal for me, as I swapped out some chicken for a good ol’ can of sardines as a meal. It didn’t impact my workout in the least, but I’m jumping ahead just a bit. Here is what I ate today. Oats, 3 egg whites and 1 whole egg, decaf coffee, multi’s, chicken sandwich on wheat, cottage cheese, sardines, shark fillet, brown rice, mixed fresh vegetables, and a coupla protein shakes just for good measure.

Training today was dedicated to chest and tri’s. I honestly didn’t really feel like lifting when I got to the gym for some reason. Ever have one of those days? Anyway, I started going through the motions since I was there. Here is what I did:

Incline DB Press 15x45 as warmups 10x60/ 10x60/ 10x65 (easy-moderate effort)

Incline DB Flys 10x40/ 10x45/ 10x45 (easy-moderate effort)
It was about this time that I started feeling pretty good. The sweat was running, the blood was flowing and I was starting to feel strong.

Flat Bench DB Press 10x75/ 10x80/ 7x85 (moderate-muscle failure)
If I had had a spotter, I would have forced out a couple more reps, but I didn’t want to get careless.

Dips 15xBW/ 10xBW+30lbs/ 10xBW+40lbs (moderate effort)

Hammer Strength Iso Wide Chest 10x125/ 8x135/ 6x145 (moderate-very heavy effort)
By now I was in the zone! Strength was surprisingly up, endurance was excellent and I was really feeling good!

Overhead Tricep Extensions 10x120/ 10x130/ 8x140 (moderate-heavy effort)

Chest Press Machine 10x200/ 8x230/ 6x250 (moderate-very heavy effort)

Close Grip Chest Press 10x160/ 10x180/ 8x200 (moderate-heavy effort)

That was my resistance training for the day. My pecs and tri’s were fully pumped when I left the gym. Without a doubt, this was one of the best workouts I have had in some time! I’ve gone heavier on various routines before, but I had not been able to keep my strength up on all my lifts like I did tonight. I’m certainly glad I lifted tonight, I would have cheated myself out of an excellent routine.

Tomorrow is an off day for me, the it will be legs on Thursday. Friday will be dedicated to shoulders, and since I feel I got a pretty good workout in my arms, I’ll be taking the weekend off.
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Default 17 Aug Day 8 on the PRIMED and N'Gorge stack

Today really sucked. I was stuck in meetings all day today, and when I say all day, I mean from 9:00am until 5:15pm. The only food I managed to find was ½ a turkey Subway sub. Other than breakfast (and my supplements of course), that was all I ate today. So there is no need into going over food intake today, it was virtually non-existent. With that, here is what I did today.

Hack squats by the boatload with no weight, and up to 90lbs to make sure my left knee was ready for lifting. Total hack squats was about 40 or so, then I moved to the squat machine.

Squat Machine 12x90/ 12x180/ 12x270 (easy-moderate effort)

Leg Curls 12x80/ 10x90/ 10x100/ 6x110 (easy-very heavy effort)

Standing Calf Raises 20x250/ 20x300/ 20x300/ 15x350 (easy-heavy effort)

Leg Raises (Captain Chairs) 4x15 (easy-moderate effort)

Hamflexors 10x60/ 10x70/ 8x80 (moderate-very heavy effort)

Leg Press 10x270/ 10x360/ 10x450 (easy-heavy effort)

Weighted Ab Crunches 10x60/ 10x70/ 10x70 (moderate effort)

That was all I had in me. Strength was surprisingly good tonight for me, even though I had very little to eat today. I really wanted to continue my routine, but I simply ran out of steam. So that was the routine, such that it was. Tomorrow is shoulders day, with even more meetings planned for tomorrow at work. I’ll think of some way of getting more food tomorrow.
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Default 18 Aug Day 9 on the PRIMED and N'Gorge Stack

Shoulders and traps was the order of the day. Food was still down a tad, but not as bad as yesterday. I gobbled up some oats, eggs with cheese, multi’s and decaf coffee, 3 pieces of pizza, cubed chicken breast with crackers, 2 protein shakes, and for dinner I am getting ready to have salmon, a baked potato and some vegetables. I’ll also have myself one more protein shake before I get some sleep.

Without further adieu, here was my workout today.

DB Shoulder Press 12x40 for warmups 10x50/ 10x50/ 10x55/ 7x60 (moderate-muscle failure)

DB Shrugs 15x70/ 15x80/ 15x90/ 12x100/ 6x110 (easy-moderate effort)

Lateral Shoulder Raise Machine 10x25/ 10x30/ 9x35 (moderate-muscle failure)
This specific machine is a Promaxima Model P-126 if anyone is curious. It is a delt killer for sure!

Shoulder Press Machine 10x150/ 10x160/ 8x170/ 6x180 (moderate-muscle failure)

Standing Calf Machine Shrugs 20x250/ 15x300/ 12x350/ 8x400 (easy-very heavy)

Seated Lateral DB Raises 10x20/ 10x20/ 8x25 (heavy-muscle failure)
Reverse Pec Dec 10x90/ 10x100/ 10x110/ 10x120 (moderate-very heavy)

That was it for the night. I pushed myself as hard as I could, as evidenced by the numerous muscle failures tonight. Endurance was excellent, but strength was still down a bit. It appears the caloric deficit I have had the last couple of days is taking its toll on me. Regardless, I had a really good pump in my delts, and felt I had a good workout.

I’m taking the weekend off to visit my son, and then I’ll be right back at it on Monday. I also plan on getting more calories this weekend as well! If anyone has any comments about the log so far, just hit me up.
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Old 08-19-2006, 12:00 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by SoMdHunter
If anyone has any comments about the log so far, just hit me up.
Excellent logging! I like that you give a brief overview of your nutrition without boring us to death, as well as giving insights as to how easy or hard the weights felt on each exercise. Hope the supplements do you well.
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