Skel1's Blue Rhino - White Blood - Green Bulge Log - Page 2

**skelooth** · 10-08-2005, 04:40 PM

Day 17: weigh in + pictures

It's of off day (THANK GOD!) I'm off from school, work, and the gym... and believe me when I say: My brain and body need it! My webcam is going, the quality of the pictures it's taking are getting worse and worse.... you can see no definition in these blurry crap pictures

Here's the side by side comparisons of after 2 weeks on the controlled labs stack. (They are actually pictures and not just links if you look at the iron mass version of the log

i'm still mega sore all over my body.... :p

chlaxman · 10-08-2005, 04:47 PM

It's tough to really tell if there is a difference because of the webcam quality.

**skelooth** · 10-08-2005, 04:48 PM

I know. And it looks like i'm standing next to my big brother. lol....

chlaxman · 10-08-2005, 04:52 PM

I will say that I like the clean-shaved face better than the goatee, but I'm not a girl so don't listen to me.

**skelooth** · 10-08-2005, 04:54 PM

:-*
lol. But we also can't judge cos of the horrible webcam quality :P

These progress pics SUCK... Hmph.

**skelooth** · 10-09-2005, 02:50 PM

day 18

It's another off day. I went to bed last night at 11:30, tossed and turned a bit, woke up today at 9:45, SORE as hell all over my body. My calves are still burning on fire from last THURSDAY'S workout. My abs and back are still sore.... My hams and to an extent my quads are still in pain. wtf

I NEVER used to get DOMS, and especially not like this. I feel like **** and I'm wondering if maybe I'm fighting off some sort of cold or something??

I also have not seen/heard from any controlled labs reps in my log in a long time. Have I been forgotten?

I'm going to force myself to go for a casual walk just to get some kind of blood moving in my body.

**skelooth** · 10-10-2005, 12:58 PM

Day 19: ...

Strength is continueing to plummet. Still sore in my legs from wednesday, calves from thursday, and back from friday.

6:30am CL stack
7am Breaky
7:30 gym
8:45 pwo shake

Code:

Rotater cuff exercises for warm up
Incline DB press 85x 8
Incline DB press 75x 8, 5, 5, 6
Bodyweight Dips x 6, 6, 6, 7, 7
Decline DB fly full rom 20x 8, 8, 8, 8 7
Cable Tricep Push down 160x 10, 8, 8
Pushups 3 :)

When my rep range went up at the end of certain exercises it's b/c i was getting pissed off that my strength went down.

It's not like I haven't been eating enough either. I've been eating very clean, and right around maintenance levels give or take. (I'm still trying to get past that mental hurdle that would allow me to eat less than 2500 cals a day).

Too bad none of the CL reps visit my log anymore. :\

**skelooth** · 10-11-2005, 12:47 PM

Day 20:
Same exact workout as last tuesday, only 25 minutes of recumbant bike instead of 10 minutes of sprints. Same results too (no pump in the smaller muscle groups). No strength loss though.

**skelooth** · 10-12-2005, 05:17 PM

Day 21: I'm a pirate, yar

I took the stack much closer to breakfast, no nausea.... so I might just start taking it WITH breakfast.

7:15 stack
7:30 breakfast
8:15 gym
9:15 pwo shake
10 clase de espanol uno cero uno (no, no estoy alegre en clase de espanol)

I was in a 'rush' this morning, so my hamstrings got completely neglected, traps were done half assed, and I only did one workset of shoulders.

Code:

Squat warm up, 135x12
Squats 205lbs x 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5
Squats 155lbs x 10, 10, 8
BB shrug 225lbs x 10, 10, 6 (grip gave out, grrrrrrrr)
Military press 135lbs x 5, 5, 3

Really nothing to report on to be honest. I get no pump in the lower rep range, and there hasn't been any increase in vascularity past few days. At least strength didn't go down today, but I also screwed around with my rep range.

To date, things I have noticed about this stack

Yes, I got the cell volumization but not the performance boost I usually get from creatine mono.

Yes, I get bigger, longer lasting pumps... as long as I keep in a rep range of 8-12. I get them mostly in my chest.

I get HORRIBLE DOMS on this stack, something I've never gotten before in over a year of 'serious' weight lifting.

No, I do not get an energy boost from the blue rhino. Even at 3 caps I shrug it off like i never took anything. There's no noticeable signs of increased testosterone either. (no vivid dreams, no increase in acne/skin oil, no increase in libido)

My sweating pattern has changed. I seem to sweat more from working my abs than I do anything else. Some of my workouts I stay almost dry.

Sometimes my eye twitches, and I get occasional headaches that feel like pressure in my brain.

Vinter · 10-12-2005, 05:30 PM

How do you like the GB .... I hate the creatine I use now (I dont really think I'm geteting a single thing out of it) Higher Powered CEE ..... I need something new for next week.. was thinking GB... what ya think?

**skelooth** · 10-12-2005, 05:33 PM

I think it depends on how you respond to CEE

This is my first time using CEE and I'm really not impressed. I've gotten no performance boost from it at all.

I respond MUCH better to creatine monohydrate, but I know some people are the opposite. So if you've never tried the monohydrate, give it a whirl.

**johnsbod** · 10-12-2005, 05:33 PM

How much caffeine are you consuming right now? I know when I used NO products in the past excessive caffeine was a no no and worked against the NO supp.

**skelooth** · 10-12-2005, 05:34 PM

:coffe: Way too much.

**johnsbod** · 10-12-2005, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelooth

:coffe: Way too much.

I used to be addicted to caffeine too. I would honestly suggest cutting the coffee down 1 cup a day until you are down to 1-2 cups in the morning. The excessive caffeine is probably why the White Blood isn't working that well for you at this point.

**skelooth** · 10-12-2005, 05:51 PM

the white blood is working though

All it's supposed to do is give better longer pumps right?

[img]red x[/img]

Rip · 10-12-2005, 06:40 PM

I've been getting the same headaches. I'm taking WB and Green Bulge no Blue Rhino. I've had increased energy and lifts but the headaches really do last for awhile talk 4 - 6 hrs

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**johnsbod** · 10-12-2005, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelooth

the white blood is working though

All it's supposed to do is give better longer pumps right?

[img]red x[/img]

It's supposed to help your recovery time too. What I found with the NO products that I've taken is that you need to be well hydrated (caffeine working against you here) and not take in too much caffeine (remember that caffeine dialates the blood vessels and the NO products are supposed to expand them). I think your caffeine habit is working against you with the White Blood.

10-08-2005, 04:40 PM	#31
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	Day 17: weigh in + pictures It's of off day (THANK GOD!) I'm off from school, work, and the gym... and believe me when I say: My brain and body need it! My webcam is going, the quality of the pictures it's taking are getting worse and worse.... you can see no definition in these blurry crap pictures Here's the side by side comparisons of after 2 weeks on the controlled labs stack. (They are actually pictures and not just links if you look at the iron mass version of the log i'm still mega sore all over my body.... :p __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

10-08-2005, 04:47 PM	#32
chlaxman Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine baby Posts: 560 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9	It's tough to really tell if there is a difference because of the webcam quality. __________________ Tempora mutantur, et nos mutamur in illis. :weight_li :dumbells: :bed2: :friday:

10-08-2005, 04:48 PM	#33
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	I know. And it looks like i'm standing next to my big brother. lol.... __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

10-08-2005, 04:52 PM	#34
chlaxman Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine baby Posts: 560 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9	I will say that I like the clean-shaved face better than the goatee, but I'm not a girl so don't listen to me. __________________ Tempora mutantur, et nos mutamur in illis. :weight_li :dumbells: :bed2: :friday:

10-08-2005, 04:54 PM	#35
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	:-* lol. But we also can't judge cos of the horrible webcam quality :P These progress pics SUCK... Hmph. __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

10-09-2005, 02:50 PM	#36
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	day 18 It's another off day. I went to bed last night at 11:30, tossed and turned a bit, woke up today at 9:45, SORE as hell all over my body. My calves are still burning on fire from last THURSDAY'S workout. My abs and back are still sore.... My hams and to an extent my quads are still in pain. wtf I NEVER used to get DOMS, and especially not like this. I feel like **** and I'm wondering if maybe I'm fighting off some sort of cold or something?? I also have not seen/heard from any controlled labs reps in my log in a long time. Have I been forgotten? I'm going to force myself to go for a casual walk just to get some kind of blood moving in my body. __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

10-10-2005, 12:58 PM	#37
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	Day 19: ... Strength is continueing to plummet. Still sore in my legs from wednesday, calves from thursday, and back from friday. 6:30am CL stack 7am Breaky 7:30 gym 8:45 pwo shake Code: Rotater cuff exercises for warm up Incline DB press 85x 8 Incline DB press 75x 8, 5, 5, 6 Bodyweight Dips x 6, 6, 6, 7, 7 Decline DB fly full rom 20x 8, 8, 8, 8 7 Cable Tricep Push down 160x 10, 8, 8 Pushups 3 :) When my rep range went up at the end of certain exercises it's b/c i was getting pissed off that my strength went down. It's not like I haven't been eating enough either. I've been eating very clean, and right around maintenance levels give or take. (I'm still trying to get past that mental hurdle that would allow me to eat less than 2500 cals a day). Too bad none of the CL reps visit my log anymore. :\ __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

10-11-2005, 12:47 PM	#38
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	Day 20: Same exact workout as last tuesday, only 25 minutes of recumbant bike instead of 10 minutes of sprints. Same results too (no pump in the smaller muscle groups). No strength loss though. __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

10-12-2005, 05:17 PM	#39
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	Day 21: I'm a pirate, yar I took the stack much closer to breakfast, no nausea.... so I might just start taking it WITH breakfast. 7:15 stack 7:30 breakfast 8:15 gym 9:15 pwo shake 10 clase de espanol uno cero uno (no, no estoy alegre en clase de espanol) I was in a 'rush' this morning, so my hamstrings got completely neglected, traps were done half assed, and I only did one workset of shoulders. Code: Squat warm up, 135x12 Squats 205lbs x 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5 Squats 155lbs x 10, 10, 8 BB shrug 225lbs x 10, 10, 6 (grip gave out, grrrrrrrr) Military press 135lbs x 5, 5, 3 Really nothing to report on to be honest. I get no pump in the lower rep range, and there hasn't been any increase in vascularity past few days. At least strength didn't go down today, but I also screwed around with my rep range. To date, things I have noticed about this stack Yes, I got the cell volumization but not the performance boost I usually get from creatine mono. Yes, I get bigger, longer lasting pumps... as long as I keep in a rep range of 8-12. I get them mostly in my chest. I get HORRIBLE DOMS on this stack, something I've never gotten before in over a year of 'serious' weight lifting. No, I do not get an energy boost from the blue rhino. Even at 3 caps I shrug it off like i never took anything. There's no noticeable signs of increased testosterone either. (no vivid dreams, no increase in acne/skin oil, no increase in libido) My sweating pattern has changed. I seem to sweat more from working my abs than I do anything else. Some of my workouts I stay almost dry. Sometimes my eye twitches, and I get occasional headaches that feel like pressure in my brain. __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

10-12-2005, 05:30 PM	#40
Vinter Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 194 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	How do you like the GB .... I hate the creatine I use now (I dont really think I'm geteting a single thing out of it) Higher Powered CEE ..... I need something new for next week.. was thinking GB... what ya think? __________________ 8/15/05 - 232 8/22/05 - 227 8/26/05 - 225 9/2/05 - 224 - 23% bf 9/10/05 - 221 - 21.85% bf 9/19/05 - 220 - 21.4% bf 9/26/05 - 219 - 21% bf 10/3/05 - 217.5 - 20.8% bf 10/10/05 - 218 - 19.6% bf 10/17/05 - 214 - 18.07% bf 10/28/05 - 210 - 17.04% bf http://www.sickofbeingfat.net/profiles.aspx?vinter N'Gorge, Melting Point, Rebound XT Log

10-12-2005, 05:33 PM	#41
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	I think it depends on how you respond to CEE This is my first time using CEE and I'm really not impressed. I've gotten no performance boost from it at all. I respond MUCH better to creatine monohydrate, but I know some people are the opposite. So if you've never tried the monohydrate, give it a whirl. __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

10-12-2005, 05:33 PM	#42
johnsbod Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 2,733 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 60	How much caffeine are you consuming right now? I know when I used NO products in the past excessive caffeine was a no no and worked against the NO supp. __________________ Wenn Sie Deutsch sprechen können, posten Sie hier. Misc Perv #69

10-12-2005, 05:34 PM	#43
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	:coffe: Way too much. __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

10-12-2005, 05:51 PM	#45
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	the white blood is working though All it's supposed to do is give better longer pumps right? [img]red x[/img] __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

10-12-2005, 06:40 PM	#46
Rip Amateur Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	I've been getting the same headaches. I'm taking WB and Green Bulge no Blue Rhino. I've had increased energy and lifts but the headaches really do last for awhile talk 4 - 6 hrs ! __________________ :weight_li :dumbells: Carpe Diem

10-14-2005, 01:24 PM	#48
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158