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Old 12-11-2005, 12:49 AM   #1
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I want to give a very special thanks to Jkeith who is the board rep for Scivation/Primaforce and I feel greatful to have been selected to be his product tester. I also thank Derek, Marc and Chuck(Team Scivation) for creating a product that so far shows great potential.

This log will be 100% biased proof, no BS! If I don't like the effects of this product you'll know it and if I love it and it becomes a staple in my diet, you will definitely hear about it across the boards
My plan is to bring the best and worst, pros and cons on Scivation's Lipid FX.
I will be unbiased, honest and informative with this product. I will keep a frequent and detailed status of any updates and conclusions with Scivation's Lipid FX. .


Note: As most of you know, I am in a bulking phase and on cycle at the moment, I was chosen to see the reactions of Lipid FX under my circumstances. I eat plenty throughout the day and Lipid FX supports appetite control, the effects will be interesting.

Goals for this log:Even though I am bulking,I sometimes need a reminder to stop eating. I would like to have 2 effects from Lipid FX, appetite control and maximal fat brun / minimal fat gain.

Dosages/Stack/Timing:

9am 2 caps Lipid FX / 1 Sesamin w/ breakfast
3pm 2 caps Lipid FX / 1 Sesamin w/ 5th meal

Duration of Log:
30 days
Start: Sunday December 10, 2005
End: Monday January 9, 2006


STATS:
AGE: 21
SEX: Male
HEIGHT: 5' 10''
WEIGHT: 207lbs.
BODYTYPE: Endomorph

TRAINING EXPERIENCE: 2.5 years of Bodybuliding(current), 1.5 yrs. of Powerlifting 01'-02', 3 years of Varsity High School Football with compliance in weight training.

TRAINING SCHEDULE/ PROTOCOL : 5-6 day training split, 4-6 excercises at 4 sets with a 6-10 rep range./ 20-30 min cardio 2-3 times a week. Note: abs and calves done on an alternate basis.

Sunday---Rest
Monday---Back
Tuesday---Rest
Wednesday---Delts/Triceps
Thursday---Rest
Friday---Legs/Biceps
Saturday---Chest


CARDIO SCHEDULE / PROTOCOL :I do cardio for 30mins. on training days, 50min.-1 hr. routines on non-training days while on a 'cutting' emphasis. I run outside using the HIIT technique or run/fast walk on my treadmill, all cardoi and training done at home, so there will be no excuse for a missed workout. When I bulk I do cardio for 2-3 days (30-45minutes)

CURRENT SUPPLEMENTS :
Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey protein
OMEGA SPORTS THUNDER
Scivation Sesamin
Centrum Multi-Vitamins
AX Superdrol
AX Perfect Cycle
Fish Oil
Red Yeast Rice
Hawthorn B
Substance WPI watermelon
Scivation XTEND watermelon

CURRENT DIET : Diet consist of roughly 3,400-3,700 everday, with a 40,40,20 split in protein,carbs. and fat.
Chicken Breast
Tuna
90% fat-free beef
Loin
Egg whites
Brown rice
Skim milk
All low-fat dairy products
Protein bars
Low-fat yogurt
90% of every veg. and fruit known to man.
Low sodium and low fat.

SHORT TERM GOAL: To weight 225lbs. from 200lbs. with as much muscle as possible with the least amount of fat before 2/1/2006(cutting phase)

LONG TERM GOAL: To weigh 275lbs. at 9% bodyfat, bench 455lbs., deadlift 500lbs, and squat 550lbs.

ANY and ALL Prescription/Recreational drugs:
NONE

Supplement history :
AX Superdrol
AX Phera-Plex
AX Perfect Cycle
ON's Whey
Omega Sport Thunder
Controlled Labs' Green Bulge
Bsn No-Xplode
BSN NITRIX
BSN Cell Mass
Prolab Creatine-Mono.
Cyto Sport's Cytogainer
ON's ZMA
Vasopro Epe. HCL
Prolabs Caffeine
Designer Supplements Rebound XT
Scivation XTEND
Substance WPI
Nutrex Lipo 6
Controlled Labs' Red Acid
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Supplement Facts:

Serving Size: 4 Vegetarian Capsules
Servings Per Container: 30

Amount Per Serving:

TTA 1000mg
(tetradecylthioacetic acid)
PhosphoLean 350mg
(standardized to 24% OEA (Oleoylethanolamide) and 14% EGCG (epigallocatechin gallate))
SEA 250mg
(Stearoylethanolamide)

Other Ingredients:
Hydroxypropyl methyl cellulose, silicon dioxide and magnesium stearate.


Directions: Take 2 vegetarian capsules two times per day with meals atleast 6-8 hours apart.

These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
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Scivation LipidFX - Makes Losing Fat Easy
By: Derek Charlebois, Chuck Rudolph and Marc Lobliner—Team Scivation


As anyone who has ever dieted for an extended period time can tell you, the hardest part about dieting is controlling your appetite. There are products on the market today that aim to decrease appetite, such as hoodia, but for most these simply do not work well enough. Losing weight is governed by calories in vs. calories out. If you eat more calories than you burn you are not going to lose weight.

In addition to controlling one’s appetite, bodybuilders and fitness enthusiast must worry about preserving muscle tissue and losing only fat. Nobody wants to work hard to gain muscle only to lose it when dieting to lose weight.

After extensive research, Scivation has created Lipid FX, a supplement that activates PPARalpha causing an increase in fat oxidation, along with decreasing appetite and improving insulin sensitivity. LipidFX is comprised of three fatty acids: Oleoylethanolamide, Stearoylethanolamide, TetradecylThioacetic Acid as well as EGCG. These ingredients have been shown to help:

Maximize Fat Burn*
Support Appetite Control*
Promote Optimal Cardiovascular Health*


LipidFX—The Future in Fat Loss Has Arrived!

Scivation LipidFX™ is a precise, scientifically advanced blend of Lipolytic Lipids™. Lipolytic Lipids™ are fatty acids that can increase metabolic rate, significantly support appetite control and immune health, help support healthy lipid profiles and insulin levels and promote optimal cardiovascular health. LipidFX™ can also help the body burn fat instead of muscle while in a calorie-deficient state. Here is why LipidFX is perhaps the biggest breakthrough in healthy fat loss to date!


Peroxisome Proliferator-Activated Receptors (PPAR)

The Peroxisome Proliferator-Activated Receptors (PPAR) receptor family is divided into three subgroups: alpha, delta/beta, and gamma. PPARalpha is highly expressed in muscle, the liver, kidneys, and heart and is involved in the regulation of lipid metabolism, specifically the transcription of the genes involved in the beta-oxidation (burning) of fatty acids and lipogenesis (storage of fatty acids).
Fat can be oxidized in the mitochondria and the peroxisomes of cells, the majority of this oxidation occurring in skeletal muscle cells and the liver. PPARalpha activation increases fat oxidation in mitochondria and peroxisomes by increasing the expression of enzymes involved in beta-oxidation of fatty acids [6]. In addition to this, PPARalpha activation increases the number of both peroxisomes and mitochondria. The combination of the increased number of peroxisomes and mitochondria plus the elevation in beta-oxidation of fatty acids increases the rate and capacity at which fat can be burned. The end result is more fat loss. Activation of PPARalpha would be very beneficial for any bodybuilder or fitness enthusiast looking to lose fat or watch their weight.

PhosphoLean™: Oleoylethanolamide (OEA) and EGCG

Oleoylethanolamide (OEA) is an endogenous lipid being investigated as a potential anti-obesity drug. OEA is synthesized in the intestines. Its synthesis is increased with food intake and decreased with fasting. OEA has been shown to have anorexic properties, meaning it decreases food intake. A study done on rats showed that OEA’s ability to decrease appetite did not change plasma levels of various intestinal hormones involved in satiety, such as ghrelin and CCK, showing OEA works independently of these hormones [1].
OEA is also an activator of the Peroxisome Proliferator-Activator Receptor Alpha (PPARalpha) [2]. Activation of PPARalpha by OEA will cause an increase in fat oxidation along with a decrease in fat storage, creating an ideal environment for fat loss. OEA’s ability to decrease appetite and regulate body weight is accomplished by the activation of PPARalpha [5]. Scivation uses Phospholean, a form of OEA that is protected from destruction in the stomach with enhanced bioavailability.

Green tea extract (EGCG) has been a popular supplement for a while, but more and more research is confirming not only its many health benefits, but its ability to promote fat loss. In addition to multiple animal studies showing green tea to lead to fat loss published just this year, a three month double-blind, placebo controlled study on thirty men was published in the January 2005 issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Compared to the placebo group, those who ingested catechins (the beneficial compounds in green tea that extracts are standardized for) daily lost more weight and more fat. While the earlier research was more preliminary, this study confirms the ability of green tea to lead to fat loss in humans.

Recent research has also given us a better picture of how green tea leads to fat loss. The more well-known mechanisms are catechol-O-methyl-transferase (COMT) inhibition, decreased dietary fat absorption, and increased levels of some hormones that suppress the appetite. A study published last year suggested yet another mechanism: when given to rats, green tea decreased the activity of glucose transporter 4 (GLUT4) in fat tissue, while increasing GLUT4 activity in muscle tissue. What this means is that fuel was being shunted away from fat and towards muscle. Not only does green tea facilitate weight loss, it can also lead to the preferential loss of fat over muscle. This is a great asset, since maintaining muscle mass is one of the hardest things to do on a diet.

A new study has discovered the phytochemicals in green tea are better used by the body in supplemental form rather than from actual green tea. The main catechin responsible for the thermogenic effect of green tea extract is epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG). Studies show it can increase metabolism by about 4%. That equates to more than 100 extra calories burned per day for most males. EGCG inhibits the enzyme responsible for the degradation of NE. By preventing NE breakdown, its fat burning effect is stronger and lasts longer.

Stearoylethanolamide (SEA)

Stearoylethanolamide (SEA) has been shown to decrease food intake independent of PPAR and without changing hematochemical parameters such as glucose and triglyceride levels or leptin (a hormone involved with satiety) expression [3]. The appetite decreasing effect of SEA was associated with a reduction in liver stearoyl-CoA desaturase-1 (SCD-1) mRNA expression. SCD-1 is the rate-limiting enzyme in the biosynthesis of monounsaturated fats and its reduction is believed to lead to increased fatty acid oxidation and decreased lipogenesis in skeletal muscle and the liver [4].

TetradecylThioacetic Acid (TTA)

TetradecylThioacetic Acid (TTA) is another PPARalpha activator [7]. TTA works in conjunction with OEA in increasing the oxidation of fatty acids and decreasing the storage of fatty acids. TTA has been shown to increase insulin sensitivity by increasing hepatic fat oxidation and ketogenesis while draining fatty acids from the blood and extrahepatic tissues. Increased insulin sensitivity means less insulin needs to be secreted to accomplish a given task. This is beneficial while dieting because insulin is anti-lipolytic.

Summary
• OEA and SEA decrease appetite
o Consuming less calories leads to fat loss
• OEA and TTA activate PPARalpha
o Activation of PPARalpha increase the rate and capacity of fat oxidation
• The combination of a decreased caloric intake and elevated fatty acid oxidation ensures fat loss success

References:

1. Proulx K, Cota D, Castaneda TR, Tschop MH, D'Alessio DA, Tso P, Woods SC, Seeley RJ. Mechanisms of oleoylethanolamide-induced changes in feeding behavior and motor activity. Am J Physiol Regul Integr Comp Physiol. 2005 Sep;289(3):R729-37.
2. Fu J, Oveisi F, Gaetani S, Lin E, Piomelli D. Oleoylethanolamide, an endogenous PPAR-alpha agonist, lowers body weight and hyperlipidemia in obese rats. Neuropharmacology. 2005 Jun;48(8):1147-53.
3. Terrazzino S, Berto F, Dalle Carbonare M, Fabris M, Guiotto A, Bernardini D, Leon A. Stearoylethanolamide exerts anorexic effects in mice via down-regulation of liver stearoyl-coenzyme A desaturase-1 mRNA expression. FASEB J. 2004 Oct;18(13):1580-2. Epub 2004 Aug 2.
4. Dobrzyn A, Ntambi JM The role of stearoyl-CoA desaturase in the control of metabolism.
Prostaglandins Leukot Essent Fatty Acids. 2005 Jul;73(1):35-41.
5. Fu, J., et al. Oleylethanolamine regulates feeding and body weight through activation of the nuclear receptor PPAR-α. Nature 425, 90-93 (2003)
6. J Agric Food Chem. 2001 May;49(5):2647-51
7. Madsen L, et al. Tetradecylthioacetic acid prevents high fat diet induced adiposity and insulin resistance. J Lipid Res. 2002 May;43(5):742-50.
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Should be interesting to see how it affects your bulk bro. I wonder if it will take away from your gains.
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...take away from your gains.
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I and I hope not. I'll ask the Scivation Team about their predictions.
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I and I hope not. I'll ask the Scivation Team about their predictions.
Well considering all fat burners are catabolic and this one has additional appetite suppression I'll be curious to see if the SD can overide the negative sides.
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To be totally honest i dont understand why you would take this to bulk...enlighten me dahlin!
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i beleive his purpose is to control his appetite, such as his cravings for junk, and to burn fat and stay very lean throughout the bulk.....i feel its a great idea, because the leaner you stay thorughout a bulk, the longer you can continue to bulk before reaching the point you feel you need to lose the excess fat.
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ILL BE KEEPING AN EYE ON THIS....im interested to see how this reacts with a bulk, maybe i should have tested it too.....
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i beleive his purpose is to control his appetite, such as his cravings for junk, and to burn fat and stay very lean throughout the bulk.....i feel its a great idea, because the leaner you stay thorughout a bulk, the longer you can continue to bulk before reaching the point you feel you need to lose the excess fat.
dont i need something like th is


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Precisely....Great way to explain it. Yep, my goal is to watch what I eat and eat only when I have to. Thanks for your support on this log and hope to see you around. :fingersxd
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yup great explaination dude..thanks...makes total sense to me now!!
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Very interesting log and will definetely subscribe to this one
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Sunday December 11, 2005

DOSAGE:
LIPID FX--4 Vegetarian Capsules
9am 2 caps
3pm 2 caps


FOOD CONSUMPTION:
M1-Quaker's Apple Cin. Oatmeal-2 packets w/ milk
M2-2 scoops ON's whey, 12oz water, Crunchy PB sandwich
M3-2 Scoops ON's Whey protein in water, Small bananna Sesamin
M4-Fish Filet w/ tomatoe and avocado slices, water
M5-2 scoop Substance WPI / XTEND watermelon in water
M6-Peanut Butter Sandwish, 2 toasted slices w/ skim milk
M7-Fruit Cocktail-Bananna,apples,grapes,watermelon
M8-2 scoops ON's whey 20oz skim milk

TRAINING:

Rest
(chest very sore from every angle)

ALARMING SIDE EFFECTS:

None
Appetite a bit supressed

NOTES:
I took my first dose upon waking up along with my breakfast, my fish oils and Superdrol. No initial reaction or an alarming side effect. One hour later I realized that I wasn't thinking about food as I usually do. For the first time I had to check the clock and say, "time to eat". Coincidence? I took my second dose as planned and again had to be reminded to eat, my mom was suprised at my
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I am quite intrigued about these effects. Since my appetite wasn't as aggressive, I wasn't stuffing my face all the time. Another factor that I noticed was the speed in which I ate my food, as if I just didn't feel like eating I'm not sure if Lipid FX is this potent to give me these effects on day one, but if it keeps this up and its effects do not diminish, it might very well be an excellent product.

**Note that I will be taking Sesamin once a day, I only have enough for the 30 days. And I have read that, while bulking, 1000-1500mg of Sesamin will suffice my needs.
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FOOD CONSUMPTION:
M-1 Peanut butter sandwich w/ small bananna and Protein shake
M2-Tuna-6oz. out of can
M3-2 Boild eggs, grapesSesamin
M4-Meso-Tech Protein Bar
M5-2 scoop Substance WPI / XTEND watermelon in water
M6-Cottage Cheese on 2 toasted bread slices w/ skim milk
M7-Fruit Cocktail-Bananna,apples,grapes,watermelon
M8-2 scoops ON's whey 20oz skim milk


TRAINING:

BACK

WEIGHT/SETS:

BACK:
Barbell Deadlift-
135X12
175X12
205X8
225X8
245X8
Barbell Wide Deadlift-
235X10
245X8
245X8
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