Red Acid !! The 'it'll make you see your fat run away' log

Vinter · 11-08-2005, 04:55 AM

Sorry I needed to make a title like everyone else ;p haha

Age: 21
Sex: Male
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 210
Body Type: mesmo-endo
BF %: Last known 17.04 (will update tomorrow)

Chest: 38"
Abs: 35"
Waist: 36 1/2"
Hips: 39

Training Split:
*Monday - legs/arms/abs
*Tuesday - chest
*Wensday - shoulders/traps
*Thursday - back/abs
*Friday - Chest/arms
*Sat - abs
*Sun - rest or light workout
(cardio when I can)

Current Diet: Clean diet 2200-2600 cal 40/40/20

Supplements While on Red Acid will be: ALRI N'Gorge (might change off to green bulge when it runs out due to $$), PrimaForce Caffeine, NOW Daily Vitamins, NOW Omega 3, Vasopro Ephedrine, Controlled Labs Red Acid, Optimum Nutrion 100% Whey

Supplement History: MAN Scorch, Nutrex Lipo6, Fish Oil, Flax Seed Oil, Designer Supplements Melting Point and Rebound XT, SciVation Sesamin, Higher Power CEE, Ephedrine, Caffeine

Short Term Goal: 205-200 before I start my clean bulk next month

Long Term Goal: 210 w/ low bf %

Red Acid Write Up

Red Acid™ is the most advanced fat incineration matrix ever to reach the
market. It combines a synergistic blend of naturally occurring fatty acids
and fatty acid analogues that serve as endogenous agonists of peroxisome
proliferator-activated receptor-alpha (PPAR-alpha) and help to modulate
ghrelin levels, producing a hunger satisfaction that effectively lowers your
food intake. The fatty acid blend also helps stimulate glycerol and fatty
acid release from adipocytes throughout the body.

180 Capsules

Key Attributes:

* Body Fat Reduction via Lipolysis
* Increased Energy
* Help Activate PPAR- alpha
* Decreased Appetite
* Greater Focus
* Enhanced Blood Flow
* Insulin Regulation

Our price: $54.99

Most people have trouble losing their fat stores because they cannot control
their food intake while on a cutting or maintenance phase. Even with proper
diet and cardio, many individuals will eventually experience problems losing
fat at an "optimal" rate. Now we have the answer: Red Acid™. Red Acid™ is
the most advanced fat incineration matrix ever to reach the market. Unlike
other fat loss products, Red Acid™ helps you to achieve fat loss via several
different pathways. It combines a synergistic blend of naturally occurring
fatty acids and fatty acid analogues that serve as endogenous agonists of
peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-alpha (PPAR-alpha) and help to
modulate ghrelin levels, producing a hunger satisfaction that effectively
lowers your food intake. The fatty acid blend also helps stimulate glycerol
and fatty acid release from adipocytes throughout the body. Herbal appetite
suppressants that work via the CNS rather than the digestive tract, like our
fatty acid blend does, were included to address the same appetite problem,
but via a different pathway, the brain. Natural energizers and thermogenics
have also been added to increase activity in the gym, which leads to calorie
use. Enhanced focus is also attained by the addition of some of the most
thoroughly researched nootropics.
*
The REDuction Complex™ (Fatty Acids and PPAR-alpha):*

Red Acid™ contains a fatty acid matrix that includes Oleoylethanolamide
(OEA) and Tetradecylthioacetic Acid (TTA). OEA is a fatty acid that is a
naturally occurring amide of ethanolamine and oleic acid. It starts working
once it reaches the duodenum (the upper 1/3 of the small intestine) and is
normally synthesized there by your body. It serves as an endogenous agonist
of peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-alpha (PPAR-alpha) and
regulates lipid metabolism. OEA also activates vagal sensory afferent
neurons and excites nodose ganglion neurons, which leads to decreased
appetite and satiety. This naturally occurring fatty acid therefore inhibits
food cravings and helps release fat from its stores in the body.

Tetradecylthioacetic acid (TTA) is a 3-thia fatty acid that reduces total
cholesterol, LDL cholesterol, triglycerides and LDL/HDL cholesterol when
used in combination with a good diet and also exhibits anti-inflammatory
effects. TTA, like OEA, is an agonist of peroxisome proliferator-activated
receptor-alpha (PPAR-alpha). TTA has been shown to increase catabolism of
fatty acids and exhibit antiadiposity effects. TTA will help to effectively
remove fat from its body stores and without forcing your body to effectively
use it for energy. This allows you to “burn” fat at a much higher level than
by simply exercising.

The Transport Mechanism:

A few hundred milligrams of flaxseed oil powder has also been added to aid
in the transport of these two fatty acids into the duodenum and other
necessary areas, so that they can be utilized completely.
*
The Red Sweat Complex™ (Thermogenics, Nootropics and Appetite Suppression
via CNS):*

We have combined the most effective and potent thermonutrients to increase
the utilization of energy in your body. The most potent extracts of
energizing ingredients were included to make your trip to the gym one you
would not forget. If you do not work out with intensity you cannot realize
your true potential for fat loss and lean body mass accumulation. Intensity
in the gym cannot be accomplished without focus either; you need the mental
acuity that only our top of the line nootropics can provide in order to
excel at your fat loss goals.

*The Red Slob Complex™ (Herbal Appetite Suppression, Thyroid Support and
Digestion Aids):*

Lastly, we added a proprietary blend of potent herbal appetite suppressants,
digestion aids, thyroid support and stomach soothing compounds that work in
synergy to target one of the hardest parts of fat loss: eating right. This
blend effectively targets the central nervous system (CNS) to control your
desire for food (without nausea or discomfort) and when combined with the
anorexic effects of OEA you are in for a powerful combination.

If you want to decrease your appetite, get rid of unwanted body fat, ramp up
your endurance and enhance your focus in the gym, then Red Acid™ is the
right choice for you.

Red Acid™ makes an excellent stack when used in conjunction with Blue
Rhino™. Together they will help you lose body fat and maintain your
testosterone levels during a cutting (fat loss) phase.

Key Attributes:

* Body Fat Reduction via Lipolysis
* Help Activate PPAR- alpha
* Potent / effective / inexpensive solution
* Decreased Appetite
* Increased Energy
* Greater Focus
* Enhanced Blood Flow and insulin Regulation
* Ephedra Free / Ephedrine Free
* Yohimbe Free / Yohimbine Free
* Helps potentiate other stimulants
* Designed to stack VERY well with Blue Rhino
* Designed to stack VERY well with Sesamin
* Designed to stack VERY well with Synepherine
* Designed to stack VERY well with Yohimbe
* Extreme fat loss results without nausea

REFERENCES

1. Wang X, Miyares RL, Ahern GP. Oleoylethanolamide excites vagal sensory
neurones, induces visceral pain and reduces short-term food intake in mice
via capsaicin receptor TRPV1. J Physiol. 2005 Apr 15;564(Pt 2):541-7. Epub
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2. J Biol Chem. Oleoylethanolamide stimulates lipolysis by activating the
nuclear receptor peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor alpha
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Skalhegg BS, Bohov P, Skorve J, Berge RK, Aukrust P, Froland SS.
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Vinter · 11-09-2005, 12:12 PM

Initial Thoughts

3caps of RA in morning and 3 before work out
2 200mg tablets of caffeine
1 tablet of ephedrine

I woke up earlier then normal yesterday, and I must say I'm typically very groggy in the morning, and it usually lasts until I get to work. I took 3 caps of Red Acid 1 caffeine tablet and boy, all I can say was 'goodmorning' haha, I was wide awake and very alert. It was very subtle though, there was no jitters, no crash or anything similar. Now, onto the issue of appetite, I had none yesterday.. I basically had to force feed myself about twice yesterday, and between dosing the Red Acid twice, this lasted from meal 1 throughout meal 6, my feelings on that are unsure yet since I had pretty good appetite control to begin with (I think a 90 day trial of this would have turned me into a bag of bones) but, I don't think it'll be a major issue. I'm not gonna get into extreme detail about my workout yesterday, but I did have a good amount of energy, I'm gonna make 1 post about the details of what I do for my workouts each day to cut out pointless blabber. I will do this later today/tomorrow, also the bf%... I still havent found those damn calipers, for this I appologize pu12, I'm a messy guy...stuff gets lost. hah

Vinter · 11-10-2005, 04:08 PM

Ok, this is what I'm doing for workouts

legs
Barbel Lunge 5 x 10
Leg Extensions 5 x 10
Squats 5 x 6
Leg curls? 5 x 10
deadlift 3 x 5
one-arm side deadlift 3 x 5
calf raises 3 x 10

arms
Reverse Barbell Preacher Curls 6 x 3
Barbell preacher curl 6 x 3
cable Tricep Extension 3 x 10
Alternate Hammer Curl 3 x 10
Concentration Curls 3 x 6
Plate Pinch 2 25lb plates 3 min each arm
Close-Grip Bench Press 3 x 6

chest
Incline Barbell Press 5 sets 12, 10, 10, 9, 6
Incline Dumbell Flye 3 sets 10, 10, 8
Decline Dumbell Flye 3 sets 10, 10, 6
Decline Dumbell Press 3 sets 8, 8, 6
Uneven Push-Up 3 sets 10 , 10 , 10

shoulder/traps
Front Dumbbell Raise 3 sets 8, 8, 6
Bent-Over Dumbell Lateral Raise 3 sets 10,10, 10
Standing Lateral Raise 3 sets 10, 10, 10
Seated Dumbell Lateral Raise 3 sets 10,10,10
Incline-Bench Dumbell Shrug 5 sets 12,12,7,7,9
Behind-Back Barbell Shrug 3 sets 20, 20, 15

back
Deadlift 5 sets 15, 12, 10, 8, 6 (first two are warmups)
One-Arm Dumbell Row 3 sets of 10 - each arm
Dumbell Shrug 3 sets of 20
Bent Over One-Arm Long Bar Row 3 sets of 10 - each arm
Stiff Leg Barbell Good Morning 3 sets of 10
Close-Grip Front Lat Pulldown 3 sets of 10

__________________________________________________ ____________

Now, I'm kinda curious, and obviously pu12 can answer this, would there be a problem with me taking 2 caps 3 x a day? I'm not really too into force feeding myself, and I've not been hungry more then twice a day since starting the Red Acid (this would have owned for me when I first started my diet). I don't wanna lessen the effects of what RA is supposed to do though, so if you think it'll do that, I'll just tough it out for the month, no big deal.

Still can't find my calipers, so if I dont by Saturday night, I'll pick up some new ones at GNC so I can get a 1 week in reading next week. So far I'm down about half a pound between 209-210.

Vinter · 11-15-2005, 06:01 AM

Trying the 3 - 2 - 1 dosage, working alot better, my diet was pretty off last week .. I 'm not gonna take new pics till the end of this week. Not much to update at as of right now.

Vinter · 11-29-2005, 01:44 AM

First of all, I'd like to appologize to Controlled Labs and pu12.

I got in a car accident about 2 weeks ago, a tire blew out and I ran off the side of the rode, I was hurt, but nothing serious.. the doctor just today gave me the ok to start lifting again. I didnt really feel that great to come online and make any posts or anything like that, so I appologize for being MIA.

I continued usage of the Red Acid while I was on a hiatus, where I pretty much managed to maintain my weight, I gained a little bf %, I'm sitting at about 18.1% right now, which I dont really think is too bad considering I was pretty much in bed for 2 weeks.

Today was my first work out back in 2 weeks, and although I feel a little weak and I think I lost some muscle .. towards the end I felt a good amount of my normal strenght come back.

I'm not sure if I still plan on starting my clean bulk the 1st week of December, I might wait another week or two after so I can get my strength up and not waste my time.

Again I appologize for the situation!

**krzna** · 11-29-2005, 02:21 AM

sorry to hear abt the accident bud, hope all is well with u.
Nice tats man, when/where did u get em?

**MASSIVE** · 11-29-2005, 02:22 AM

No problem man, hope you feel better and I'll have a close eye on your log! :bigthumbu

Vinter · 11-30-2005, 04:06 AM

Thanks for everyone's concern, and CL's an pure's understanding of the situation!! <3 I got really lucky... hopefully bs like that wont happen again. Anyhow..

Arms today was a big struggle, have a definately loss in strength due to my 2 week hiatus, though like with the legs, towards the end I felt a good amount of it regained towards the end of the workout.

I think as of right now, I will prob still do a bulk starting sometime next month, and I'll include some form of CL product, and will in the future do another Red Acid log (this time out of my pocket) to make up for what was lost with this one.

pu12en12g · 12-03-2005, 01:17 PM

Glad to hear that you're ok man :fingersxd

11-09-2005, 12:12 PM	#2
Vinter Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 227 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Initial Thoughts 3caps of RA in morning and 3 before work out 2 200mg tablets of caffeine 1 tablet of ephedrine I woke up earlier then normal yesterday, and I must say I'm typically very groggy in the morning, and it usually lasts until I get to work. I took 3 caps of Red Acid 1 caffeine tablet and boy, all I can say was 'goodmorning' haha, I was wide awake and very alert. It was very subtle though, there was no jitters, no crash or anything similar. Now, onto the issue of appetite, I had none yesterday.. I basically had to force feed myself about twice yesterday, and between dosing the Red Acid twice, this lasted from meal 1 throughout meal 6, my feelings on that are unsure yet since I had pretty good appetite control to begin with (I think a 90 day trial of this would have turned me into a bag of bones) but, I don't think it'll be a major issue. I'm not gonna get into extreme detail about my workout yesterday, but I did have a good amount of energy, I'm gonna make 1 post about the details of what I do for my workouts each day to cut out pointless blabber. I will do this later today/tomorrow, also the bf%... I still havent found those damn calipers, for this I appologize pu12, I'm a messy guy...stuff gets lost. hah __________________ 8/15/05 - 232 8/22/05 - 227 8/26/05 - 225 9/2/05 - 224 - 23% bf 9/10/05 - 221 - 21.85% bf 9/19/05 - 220 - 21.4% bf 9/26/05 - 219 - 21% bf 10/3/05 - 217.5 - 20.8% bf 10/10/05 - 218 - 19.6% bf 10/17/05 - 214 - 18.07% bf 10/28/05 - 210 - 17.04% bf http://www.sickofbeingfat.net/profiles.aspx?vinter N'Gorge, Melting Point, Rebound XT Log

11-10-2005, 04:08 PM	#3
Vinter Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 227 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Ok, this is what I'm doing for workouts legs Barbel Lunge 5 x 10 Leg Extensions 5 x 10 Squats 5 x 6 Leg curls? 5 x 10 deadlift 3 x 5 one-arm side deadlift 3 x 5 calf raises 3 x 10 arms Reverse Barbell Preacher Curls 6 x 3 Barbell preacher curl 6 x 3 cable Tricep Extension 3 x 10 Alternate Hammer Curl 3 x 10 Concentration Curls 3 x 6 Plate Pinch 2 25lb plates 3 min each arm Close-Grip Bench Press 3 x 6 chest Incline Barbell Press 5 sets 12, 10, 10, 9, 6 Incline Dumbell Flye 3 sets 10, 10, 8 Decline Dumbell Flye 3 sets 10, 10, 6 Decline Dumbell Press 3 sets 8, 8, 6 Uneven Push-Up 3 sets 10 , 10 , 10 shoulder/traps Front Dumbbell Raise 3 sets 8, 8, 6 Bent-Over Dumbell Lateral Raise 3 sets 10,10, 10 Standing Lateral Raise 3 sets 10, 10, 10 Seated Dumbell Lateral Raise 3 sets 10,10,10 Incline-Bench Dumbell Shrug 5 sets 12,12,7,7,9 Behind-Back Barbell Shrug 3 sets 20, 20, 15 back Deadlift 5 sets 15, 12, 10, 8, 6 (first two are warmups) One-Arm Dumbell Row 3 sets of 10 - each arm Dumbell Shrug 3 sets of 20 Bent Over One-Arm Long Bar Row 3 sets of 10 - each arm Stiff Leg Barbell Good Morning 3 sets of 10 Close-Grip Front Lat Pulldown 3 sets of 10 __________________________________________________ ____________ Now, I'm kinda curious, and obviously pu12 can answer this, would there be a problem with me taking 2 caps 3 x a day? I'm not really too into force feeding myself, and I've not been hungry more then twice a day since starting the Red Acid (this would have owned for me when I first started my diet). I don't wanna lessen the effects of what RA is supposed to do though, so if you think it'll do that, I'll just tough it out for the month, no big deal. Still can't find my calipers, so if I dont by Saturday night, I'll pick up some new ones at GNC so I can get a 1 week in reading next week. So far I'm down about half a pound between 209-210. __________________ 8/15/05 - 232 8/22/05 - 227 8/26/05 - 225 9/2/05 - 224 - 23% bf 9/10/05 - 221 - 21.85% bf 9/19/05 - 220 - 21.4% bf 9/26/05 - 219 - 21% bf 10/3/05 - 217.5 - 20.8% bf 10/10/05 - 218 - 19.6% bf 10/17/05 - 214 - 18.07% bf 10/28/05 - 210 - 17.04% bf http://www.sickofbeingfat.net/profiles.aspx?vinter N'Gorge, Melting Point, Rebound XT Log

11-15-2005, 06:01 AM	#4
Vinter Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 227 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Trying the 3 - 2 - 1 dosage, working alot better, my diet was pretty off last week .. I 'm not gonna take new pics till the end of this week. Not much to update at as of right now. __________________ 8/15/05 - 232 8/22/05 - 227 8/26/05 - 225 9/2/05 - 224 - 23% bf 9/10/05 - 221 - 21.85% bf 9/19/05 - 220 - 21.4% bf 9/26/05 - 219 - 21% bf 10/3/05 - 217.5 - 20.8% bf 10/10/05 - 218 - 19.6% bf 10/17/05 - 214 - 18.07% bf 10/28/05 - 210 - 17.04% bf http://www.sickofbeingfat.net/profiles.aspx?vinter N'Gorge, Melting Point, Rebound XT Log

11-29-2005, 01:44 AM	#5
Vinter Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 227 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	First of all, I'd like to appologize to Controlled Labs and pu12. I got in a car accident about 2 weeks ago, a tire blew out and I ran off the side of the rode, I was hurt, but nothing serious.. the doctor just today gave me the ok to start lifting again. I didnt really feel that great to come online and make any posts or anything like that, so I appologize for being MIA. I continued usage of the Red Acid while I was on a hiatus, where I pretty much managed to maintain my weight, I gained a little bf %, I'm sitting at about 18.1% right now, which I dont really think is too bad considering I was pretty much in bed for 2 weeks. Today was my first work out back in 2 weeks, and although I feel a little weak and I think I lost some muscle .. towards the end I felt a good amount of my normal strenght come back. I'm not sure if I still plan on starting my clean bulk the 1st week of December, I might wait another week or two after so I can get my strength up and not waste my time. Again I appologize for the situation! __________________ 8/15/05 - 232 8/22/05 - 227 8/26/05 - 225 9/2/05 - 224 - 23% bf 9/10/05 - 221 - 21.85% bf 9/19/05 - 220 - 21.4% bf 9/26/05 - 219 - 21% bf 10/3/05 - 217.5 - 20.8% bf 10/10/05 - 218 - 19.6% bf 10/17/05 - 214 - 18.07% bf 10/28/05 - 210 - 17.04% bf http://www.sickofbeingfat.net/profiles.aspx?vinter N'Gorge, Melting Point, Rebound XT Log

11-29-2005, 02:21 AM	#6
krzna Dogg Crappin Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Olangapo-Zambales,Philipines Posts: 1,773 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 49	sorry to hear abt the accident bud, hope all is well with u. Nice tats man, when/where did u get em? __________________ www.surpassgenetics.com www.nolva-dex.com Team Beast Breeder colossus@beastbreeder.com Admin - F uckgentics/OffshoreBodybuilding/TheVIP

11-29-2005, 02:22 AM	#7
MASSIVE AX Rep Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TOKYO Posts: 1,217 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 15	No problem man, hope you feel better and I'll have a close eye on your log! :bigthumbu __________________ Anabolic Xtreme Rep www.AnabolicXtreme.com www.StimulantX.com C-Los21@AnabolicX.com Owner@BBB VIP@WWBB VIP@AP VIP@VIP VET@SSB VET@ABB HYPERDROL™.....Our Newest Anabolic STIMULANT-X™.....Defining "Stimulation" *ANABOLIC XTREME.....Real Results!***

11-30-2005, 04:06 AM	#8
Vinter Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 227 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Thanks for everyone's concern, and CL's an pure's understanding of the situation!! <3 I got really lucky... hopefully bs like that wont happen again. Anyhow.. Arms today was a big struggle, have a definately loss in strength due to my 2 week hiatus, though like with the legs, towards the end I felt a good amount of it regained towards the end of the workout. I think as of right now, I will prob still do a bulk starting sometime next month, and I'll include some form of CL product, and will in the future do another Red Acid log (this time out of my pocket) to make up for what was lost with this one. __________________ 8/15/05 - 232 8/22/05 - 227 8/26/05 - 225 9/2/05 - 224 - 23% bf 9/10/05 - 221 - 21.85% bf 9/19/05 - 220 - 21.4% bf 9/26/05 - 219 - 21% bf 10/3/05 - 217.5 - 20.8% bf 10/10/05 - 218 - 19.6% bf 10/17/05 - 214 - 18.07% bf 10/28/05 - 210 - 17.04% bf http://www.sickofbeingfat.net/profiles.aspx?vinter N'Gorge, Melting Point, Rebound XT Log

12-03-2005, 01:17 PM	#9
pu12en12g Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 259 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Glad to hear that you're ok man :fingersxd

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