Canadabboy's Primaforce - Durablast Log

canadabboy · 09-21-2005, 05:24 AM

Canadabboy's Primaforce DURABLAST log:

I recieved Durablast, one of Primaforce's new products from Marc yesterday. Thanks a lot for letting my review this product for you Marc (and yes of course, thank you Dito as well). The ingredients look simple yet everything is very good, and i'm very excited to try it. Actually i was so excited that i took it last night before my workout and this morning before i went to class (on less sleep than i like). Most products i find have a few ingredients that seem a little bit blah. The kinds of things that you wouldn't buy if you were 'building' your own personalized product. This however contains only goodness (as far as i can tell).

I am going to be doing a Controlled labs log in the near future, and if these two logs overlap i don't see if being an issue, because this is an energy/focus product and the controlled labs products are for strength and endurance and pumps.

Product Information:

Link to product on bodybuilding.com --> http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/prima/dura.html

What's In It?
Supplement Facts:

Serving Size: 4 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 30

Amount Per Serving:

Calcium (from Dicalcium Phosphate) 120mg 12%
Phosphorus (from Dicalcium Phosphate) 92mg 9%
Potassium (from L-Potassium Aspartate) 30mg 1%
Propionyl-L-Carnitine 1000mg
L-Asparagine 650mg
Acetyl-L-Carnitine 500mg
L-Potassium Aspartate 150mg
Caffeine (USP) 125mg

Other Ingredients:
Magnesium Stearate, Gelatin

Directions: As a dietary supplement, take 4-8 capsules 30-40 minutes prior to exercise. To assess tolerance, begin with 1/2 the recommended dose.

These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

Supplements I will be taking with Durablast:

I will either be taking these all of the time just for general health (EFA's, vitamin's, green tea, NAC), or i will take them at specific times to test how they interact with Durablast (GXR, ephedrine, neurostim).

Designer Supplements - Glucophase XR
Scivation - Neurostim
Ephedrine HCL
Vitamin C
NAC
Green Tea (currently out)
Primaforce - Alcalean (alcar)
Udo's oil EFA blend

Personal Stats:

Height : 6'0/6'1
Weight : 207-213 (changes during the day)
Body fat % : Digital callipers say from an average of 3 readings ~ 9.5% Mirror/Canadabboy says ~ 11-12%

I will be noting progress largely from how I look in the mirror. Body composition cannot be measured very well by weight so I will look for changes in body fat percentage and mainly how I look. I know my body very well so small changes will be noted.

Diet:

Currently i'm trying to keep my diet as clean as possible, while eating around maintenence. I will be trying to do a slow clean bulk in a few week when i recieve some Controlled Labs products, which i will be doing a log on. When that time comes i will try and increase my caloric intake a little bit. Until then i will be trying to keep my carbs low except for a bit in the mornings, and pre/post workout.

Fats: I have a moderate fat intake consisting of good fats such as olive oil, some nuts here and there, 2-3 tbs of Udo's oil (omega fatty acid blend), natural peanut butter and eggs (plus some animal fat from beef and chicken).

Protein: I take in a very large amount of protein, around 300-400 grams of protein per day. I consume solid foods in every meal with a scoop of protein. My sources of protein are usually chicken (no skin), eggs, lean ground beef (in chilli), steak, cottage cheese, canned tuna, canned salmon, and milk (1%). I recently purchased 44lbs of bulk 80% WPC which is working very well so far (with BSL flavours).

Carbohydrates: My carbohydrate intake is moderate and I try to mostly take in carbs from low glycemic sources. In the morning I usually have a banana with my breakfast shake (a bit high glycemic), I usually have oatmeal and an apple pre workout, and oatmeal post workout. I try not to intake a lot of carbs at night and usually just stick to protein and fats. Usually during the day I’ll have an apple with a meal, and I usually have chilli once a day which has kidney beans in it. Recently i have stopped having apples during the day, but i may or may not start with them again once my clean bulk officially starts.

Training:

Due to University (and a crazy course load), i have to cut my workouts down to 3 HST (hypertrophy specific training) style workouts per week. This is ok because that is the way HST is meant to be done. I will try and get a day or two of cardio in there as well.

canadabboy · 09-21-2005, 05:44 AM

Day 1: September 19th, 2005:

I recieved the Durablast when i got home from school and found it waiting for me. I was really excited and since i was pretty tired, i decided to go ahead and take 4 caps with 1 glucophase XR and some vitamin C before my workout.

Now i found the feeling with this supplement was similar to neurostim, but the energy boost was quite a bit better initially. It's hard to explain, but i had a tense feeling in my head, like there was some pressure on the back of my head and my brain was throbbing. This would happen with neurostim as well sometimes, only Durablast feels a little bit 'cleaner' (probably because high doses of tyrosine can make me feel a bit woozy).

Anyways the energy was really good, and it lasted for a long time. It was steady and clean and it didnt' feel anxious like an ECA. I had a good workout and i was still feeling energized at 10pm (i took Durablast at 6pm). I've been looking for a supplement that would help to just make me feel more awake (not like caffeine), and this seems like it has potential.

My initial impressions are very good.

canadabboy · 09-21-2005, 05:47 AM

Day 2: September 20th, 2005:

I didn't get a lot of sleep last night due to being up late and helping my girlfriend with her math homework.

Anyways lately i've been a total zombie at school, even with 8 hours of sleep. I think this is because i'm either:

not a morning person and my body hasn't adapted to the fairly recent change to 7am wake ups (last few weeks)
or i'm somehow oversleeping, which seems totally bizzare to me considering 8 hours NEVER seems like enough.

Yea yea i just found out about the list function...

So i woke up this morning and had only about 6.5-7 hours of sleep, and for me that's barely enough to function at a low level on (basic mindless labour/vegetating at home). I decided that i was in dire need of some stimulatory assistance so i dove straight into 6 caps of Durblast, 1 Glucophase XR, Vitamin C, 8mg Ephedrine, and half a scoop of Neurostim.

Holy shit i could have sworn i slept 10 hours last night. I think this may be some sort of a magic potion i have just put together here. I took all of this at just after 7am, and at 1pm i was leaving the math help center and realized that i still had my heart rate a bit elevated, and i still felt VERY alert and focused, as if i had just recently taken something.

So i go to my practical spectrometry quiz and then i go to my microbiology lab, and at the end of my lab i'm working through some questions and i feel like i'm slowing down a bit. Well, it's 4:30.. 4:30!!!

That's 9.5 HOURS after i had taken any sort of stimulants. Again like i said before, unless this was some bizzare situation where somehow getting less sleep made me more alert (i've done it before and felt like total dog shit every time, even with stimulants), i think i may have found a winner/winning combination here.

I don't know if the minerals in here are doing a lot of it, or if it's the propionyl-l-carnitine, but it's working very well.

I have taken neurostim + caffeine (as high as 250mg) + glucophase XR + alcar and not noticed these kinds of results so there must be something in the mineral/propionyl-l-carnitine/l-asparagine ingredients/synergy.

Tomorrow i'm thinking i'll just take 4 durablast caps on it's own, and then maybe another 2 later in the day as i drop off my energy.

**DarkFalcon** · 09-22-2005, 02:38 AM

Very nice detailed log bro. Great job, I'll be following this and your upcoming one. :nosthumbs

canadabboy · 09-22-2005, 05:11 AM

Day 3: September 21th, 2005:

Once again last night i didn't get very much sleep. The night before i had gotten 6.5-7 hours of sleep (and then taken my magical morning potion and felt great all day), and last night i only got about 7-7.5. So the two days in a row of low sleep started to wear me down today. Getting up this morning was so incredibly hard, but i managed to get up and take 4 Durablast. I popped 2 durablast + 600mg NAC into a container to take to school with me for a mid day boost, and i drank about 1/3 of a scoop of neurostim about 30 minutes after i took the Durablast with 8mg ephedrine.

Now when i got home i found a half drunk cup of neurostim, so apparantly i only drank half of what i had intended to drink this morning.

I found the same sort of clarity and alertness (clean, almost like i had slept more), came over me quite quickly, but there was a lingering feeling of fatigue that i just couldn't shake off (my body needed rest, plain and simple). But i was very impress by what Durablast did to help me get going.

The effects started to wear off around 1pm today and i slowed down. I popped the next 2 durablast and 600mg NAC and they didn't have a large effect. Things proceeded smoothly, if not a bit sluggishly for the rest of the day.

Yesterday morning I took 6 caps of Durablast, 1/2 scoop of neurostim and 1 GXR and 8mg of ephedrine. Today i took 4 caps of Durablast, 1/3 scoop (maybe a bit less) of neurostim, and 8mg ephedrine. The lack of GXR and the addition Durablast/Neurostim made the effects a bit less pronounced (hard to tell properly due to different amounts of sleep), but the main difference was that they didn't last as long.

IMPORTANT!
More so than Neurostim, alcar, ala, green tea, NAC, ECA, other stimulants, etc... The addition of durablast has made my mental clarity and focus MUCH better. Doing calculus was much easier it seemed, and following along with various thermodynamic proofs and ir spectra analysis in class was MUCH easier than before. It seemed to be very pronounced.

Now this could just be a fluke that it was a topic that i specifically understood well, or maybe i was just getting the hang of certain concepts and calculations, but it just "felt different".

Anyways i love this product and i'm going to marry it and you can't stop me.
Hopefully these effects don't die off/don't prove to just be circumstancial, because if they aren't then i will be taking this as a staple supplement.

**DarkFalcon** · 09-22-2005, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadabboy

Anyways i love this product and i'm going to marry it and you can't stop me.
Hopefully these effects don't die off/don't prove to just be circumstancial, because if they aren't then i will be taking this as a staple supplement.

lmao..they should use you for their customer testimonials.

canadabboy · 09-22-2005, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

lmao..they should use you for their customer testimonials.

Muwahahaha. Yea i was joking, sorta...

So far it's helping me to think more clearly (think the reason why i didn't notice that as much with neurostim is because high doses of it would cause me to feel a bit dizzy and blurry due to the tyrosine). But in this case i don't get a lot of tyrosine.

I'm just excited that it's helping me through the days so well and i will stick with this product if it keeps working and these effects aren't just circumstancial.

I'm trying to be unbiased and give other possibilities for the effects that i'm noticing.

4amWorkouts · 09-22-2005, 05:10 PM

How are your muscles recovering\feeling?

canadabboy · 09-22-2005, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4amWorkouts

How are your muscles recovering\feeling?

I was very sore after my first day back on HST training (which could be expected).

Also i deadlifted and squated for the first time in quite a while, both on the same day, with HST. So my hamstrings/back were really sore for 2 days. I suppose they were a little bit less sore than they sometimes would be, and considering i did deadlifts and squats on the same day along with the rest of my body, i guess i should probably have been totally crippled.

I'm at my Uni's library right now and it's 11am, i took 4 caps of Durablast on their own this morning at 7, and i started to crash a bit at 10. So it didn't Last as long as with neurostim or especially with GXR, however once again i didn't get enough sleep last night (7-7.5 hours), so that probably isn't helping.

I took another 4 caps with me to school, but i may hold off on taking them so that i can take the tonight pre workout.

canadabboy · 09-23-2005, 04:37 AM

Day 4: September 22th, 2005:

So as outlined in my post below, i took 4 caps this morning on their own. The effects were good but not as strong, and didn't last as long as with GXR or with neurostim.

I managed to hold out fine until 6 when i took 4 more caps and 1GXR (and a small banana). The energy boost was not as pronounced as earlier, but after finishing the lower body portion of my HST workout, i became very dizzy and lightheaded (hypoglycemic i think). I guess the banana wasn't enough with the GXR, so i ate half of a peach and felt a bit better. Overall i had a good workout with good pumps, and my endurance seemed to be up a bit, compared to normal.

I'm going to TRY and get some more sleep tonight but i don't see getting more than 7-7.5.

Tomorrow i'm gonna go all out and take 6 caps Durablast, 1GXR, 1 scoop neurostim, 8mg ephedrine, and then vitamin C and my multi.

I need to get a lot of stuff done...

**DarkFalcon** · 09-23-2005, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadabboy

Tomorrow i'm gonna go all out and take 6 caps Durablast, 1GXR, 1 scoop neurostim, 8mg ephedrine, and then vitamin C and my multi.

I need to get a lot of stuff done...

Hardcore! If I took all that my heart would explode! :eek2:

canadabboy · 09-24-2005, 06:46 AM

Day 5: September 22th, 2005:

Today i took my large cocktail to try and save me from a shitty night of sleep last night, maybe 6-6.5 hours. I turned my cell phone ringer off, yet a text message, then call, still rang/beeped.

Anyways i took 4 Durablast, 1 GXR, 8mg ephdrine, and almost a full scoop of neurostim. It worked not bad until about 11 and then i felt like death. 3 days of low sleep in a row is beyond critical for me. I didn't take any more stimulants the rest of the day, and at 4:30 near the end of my physics lab i was very dizzy/sickly and i couldn't think straight. I couldn't even add numbers together properly, and my motor skills were terrible. I just want to make it clear that those negative effects had nothing to do with any of the supplements i'm taking, they're just a result of a lack of sleep, high stress and too much work.

I'm going to sleep a lot tonight, and make sure i keep it up over the weekend and next week. I will be taking only Durablast for the next while now that i've gotten the experimental phase/low sleep phase done with.

canadabboy · 09-24-2005, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Hardcore! If I took all that my heart would explode! :eek2:

The neurostim has no caffeine, and the scoop that is in there is a little smaller than the regular serving size, so it's not THAT bad. And 8mg of ephedrine isn't a lot...

Anyways i ended up only taking 4 durablast. So that's only 125mg of caffeine, 8mg ephedrine, and a bunch of nootropics. Not that bad.... is it?

And for anyone who is curious, for the next little while i will be trying to take ONLY durablast, unless i have a bad night and need an extra kick.
There were some concerns over at bb.com that this log would not be effective if i was always taking Durablast with tons of other things. Which is true, however i had taken all of these things without Durablast before hand, so i am now able to judge how the addition of Durablast changes things. Also i am going to be taking Durablast by it's self most of the time, it just so happens that i was having a rough week the week that i started this log, so i took a bunch of other things as well..

canadabboy · 09-25-2005, 05:24 PM

Day 6: September 24th, 2005:

I got a goods night sleep last night and i took just 2 caps of Durablast this morning. I had a bit of a headache but it died down after a few hours.

I worked painting my girlfriend's dad's place again. I had to rush home, take 4 Durablast, eat really quickly, and then run to the gym right away (no digestion time). I then i had to cram a 1.5-2 hour HST workout into 1 hour, which made me feel sick (combined with a full stomache), to say the least.

Considering the intense workout that made me ill, it was really good. My reps were up a bit and i had a really good pump.

Aside: I started to get a sore throat last night and woke up this morning with a bad sore throat. This is what happens when you're girlfriend gets sick, and you have to sit in a room with hundreds of peasants at school who have no manners and cough all over you.

canadabboy · 10-02-2005, 05:29 PM

Ok i've been really busy and totaly forgot to update this log. I will add a bunch of them now.

Day 7: September 25th, 2005:

Quick update because i have no time.

I took 2 when i left to go to my university, and then another 4 about an hour later. I did math and chem all day and my focus/understanding was quite good.

No workout today.

canadabboy · 10-02-2005, 05:30 PM

Day 8: September 26th, 2005:

Again absolutely no time. My school schedual is absolutely insane and i'm starting to die here.

I took 2 in the morning and then 3 before my workout. I'm stricly taking Durablast. I was feelin low at around 11 and felt like taking some ECA or more durablast but i held off and i made it through the day ok. I only took 3 at around 7pm because i wanted to be able to go to sleep at around 11.

My workout was quite decent but not great, i've been tired and i'm getting sick. Considering everything it was ok. I sound like i'm in a hole though (stuffed up nose).

canadabboy · 10-02-2005, 05:31 PM

Day 9: September 27th, 2005:

I took 3 in the morning and then i held out all day and took another 3 before my workout. I was getting tired during the day (didn't get enough sleep), but i managed to have quite a good workout last night.

I feel like i'm fighting off this cold more quickly than normal, so i'm really impressed with that.

The energy from Durablast is the kind of energy where you can forget you even took something. Now at first read that sentence might sound like a negative shot towards Durablast, but let me explain. I've found myself several times 6-8 hours into school, working on calculus problems and thinking. "i'm impressed that i'm not more tired right now and that i'm able to be so productive and think so clearly, it's almost like i've taken something...". And then i remember that i've taken some durablast. It's not a jittery, fight or flight adrenalin type rush that just makes you awake regardless of how you feel. It gently picks you up and makes you feel like you've had a bit more sleep than you actually have.

I really like it a lot, and since adding it my workouts have been consistent, if not showing a small improvement in endurance, regardless of a lack of sleep.

All of this with a low Caffeine content, which is a huge plus for me. Do to the negative sides of caffeine i don't like to take a lot of it if i can avoid it. A lot of new products are coming out with 300mg+ of caffeine per serving. This is a bit of a cheap way of doing things, because caffeine is dirt cheap and of course adding a ton of caffeine is going to make a product 'work' well.

canadabboy · 10-02-2005, 05:32 PM

Day 10: September 28th, 2005:

I took nothing in the morning to see how long i could last, but i crapped out at around 12:30, then i took 6. It was much harder to keep focused in class and to keep awake. I found it very hard to keep my eyes open and due to my level of fatigue it was extremely difficult to focus all of my concentration on the professor and really try to make sense of what he was saying. On a good nights sleep, or with Durablast (other stims as well, but especially durablast for the focus) i find it much easier to stay focused and awake. After i took the 6 Durablast i found that for a little while it was actually harder to focus because i was a bit overwhelmed and my head felt a bit fuzzy, but that quickly died down and i got to work. Usually when i take them in the morning i have a 40 minute drive to school that allows things to settling in.

I took another 3 before my workout and i was ultra tired. I took them around 6 and i didn't want to be up late tonight so i shyed away from a full dose or more. Unfortunatly 3 was not enough to save me from my fatigue and stress, however about half way through the workout things picked up. Overall i had a good workout and i got a good pump. My reps were up today as well.

I found that even though physically and mentally i was exhausted, i had enough will power and focus to push through it and bang out my reps and sets even though i just wanted to pass out. That is a huge advantage to the over worked and under rested school/work go-er. I may need more of this stuff.

canadabboy · 10-02-2005, 05:32 PM

Day 11: September 29th, 2005:

I took 2 caps this morning, and then another two in the afternoon. I was tired but it felt like a low stimulant day.

I have a math test tomorrow and i need to get to sleep at a resonable time. Calculus is hard, my teacher is a dick, nuff said.

Anyways i seem to be gaining a bit of weight. My strength is solid and i feel a bit bigger (arms look bigger too). The only thing i've changed is adding durablast, so maybe this l-asparagine is more effective at boosting endurance that i thought.

canadabboy · 10-02-2005, 05:34 PM

Day 12: September 30th, 2005:

I took 4 Durablast in the morning and then 2 at about 7pm (after i took a nap). I didn't get much sleep due to my math test this morning so i rode out my fatigue and then took an hour nap at about 6pm. I was still very tired so i took 2 Durablast to keep me going for a bit longer.

Still sick...!

09-21-2005, 05:24 AM	#1
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Canadabboy's Primaforce - Durablast Log Canadabboy's Primaforce DURABLAST log: I recieved Durablast, one of Primaforce's new products from Marc yesterday. Thanks a lot for letting my review this product for you Marc (and yes of course, thank you Dito as well). The ingredients look simple yet everything is very good, and i'm very excited to try it. Actually i was so excited that i took it last night before my workout and this morning before i went to class (on less sleep than i like). Most products i find have a few ingredients that seem a little bit blah. The kinds of things that you wouldn't buy if you were 'building' your own personalized product. This however contains only goodness (as far as i can tell). I am going to be doing a Controlled labs log in the near future, and if these two logs overlap i don't see if being an issue, because this is an energy/focus product and the controlled labs products are for strength and endurance and pumps. Product Information: Link to product on bodybuilding.com --> http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/prima/dura.html What's In It? Supplement Facts: Serving Size: 4 Capsules Servings Per Container: 30 Amount Per Serving: Calcium (from Dicalcium Phosphate) 120mg 12% Phosphorus (from Dicalcium Phosphate) 92mg 9% Potassium (from L-Potassium Aspartate) 30mg 1% Propionyl-L-Carnitine 1000mg L-Asparagine 650mg Acetyl-L-Carnitine 500mg L-Potassium Aspartate 150mg Caffeine (USP) 125mg Other Ingredients: Magnesium Stearate, Gelatin Directions: As a dietary supplement, take 4-8 capsules 30-40 minutes prior to exercise. To assess tolerance, begin with 1/2 the recommended dose. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Supplements I will be taking with Durablast: I will either be taking these all of the time just for general health (EFA's, vitamin's, green tea, NAC), or i will take them at specific times to test how they interact with Durablast (GXR, ephedrine, neurostim). Designer Supplements - Glucophase XR Scivation - Neurostim Ephedrine HCL Vitamin C NAC Green Tea (currently out) Primaforce - Alcalean (alcar) Udo's oil EFA blend Personal Stats: Height : 6'0/6'1 Weight : 207-213 (changes during the day) Body fat % : Digital callipers say from an average of 3 readings ~ 9.5% Mirror/Canadabboy says ~ 11-12% I will be noting progress largely from how I look in the mirror. Body composition cannot be measured very well by weight so I will look for changes in body fat percentage and mainly how I look. I know my body very well so small changes will be noted. Diet: Currently i'm trying to keep my diet as clean as possible, while eating around maintenence. I will be trying to do a slow clean bulk in a few week when i recieve some Controlled Labs products, which i will be doing a log on. When that time comes i will try and increase my caloric intake a little bit. Until then i will be trying to keep my carbs low except for a bit in the mornings, and pre/post workout. Fats: I have a moderate fat intake consisting of good fats such as olive oil, some nuts here and there, 2-3 tbs of Udo's oil (omega fatty acid blend), natural peanut butter and eggs (plus some animal fat from beef and chicken). Protein: I take in a very large amount of protein, around 300-400 grams of protein per day. I consume solid foods in every meal with a scoop of protein. My sources of protein are usually chicken (no skin), eggs, lean ground beef (in chilli), steak, cottage cheese, canned tuna, canned salmon, and milk (1%). I recently purchased 44lbs of bulk 80% WPC which is working very well so far (with BSL flavours). Carbohydrates: My carbohydrate intake is moderate and I try to mostly take in carbs from low glycemic sources. In the morning I usually have a banana with my breakfast shake (a bit high glycemic), I usually have oatmeal and an apple pre workout, and oatmeal post workout. I try not to intake a lot of carbs at night and usually just stick to protein and fats. Usually during the day I’ll have an apple with a meal, and I usually have chilli once a day which has kidney beans in it. Recently i have stopped having apples during the day, but i may or may not start with them again once my clean bulk officially starts. Training: Due to University (and a crazy course load), i have to cut my workouts down to 3 HST (hypertrophy specific training) style workouts per week. This is ok because that is the way HST is meant to be done. I will try and get a day or two of cardio in there as well. Last edited by canadabboy : 09-21-2005 at 06:07 AM.

09-21-2005, 05:47 AM	#3
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Day 2: September 20th, 2005: I didn't get a lot of sleep last night due to being up late and helping my girlfriend with her math homework. Anyways lately i've been a total zombie at school, even with 8 hours of sleep. I think this is because i'm either: not a morning person and my body hasn't adapted to the fairly recent change to 7am wake ups (last few weeks) or i'm somehow oversleeping, which seems totally bizzare to me considering 8 hours NEVER seems like enough. Yea yea i just found out about the list function... So i woke up this morning and had only about 6.5-7 hours of sleep, and for me that's barely enough to function at a low level on (basic mindless labour/vegetating at home). I decided that i was in dire need of some stimulatory assistance so i dove straight into 6 caps of Durblast, 1 Glucophase XR, Vitamin C, 8mg Ephedrine, and half a scoop of Neurostim. Holy shit i could have sworn i slept 10 hours last night. I think this may be some sort of a magic potion i have just put together here. I took all of this at just after 7am, and at 1pm i was leaving the math help center and realized that i still had my heart rate a bit elevated, and i still felt VERY alert and focused, as if i had just recently taken something. So i go to my practical spectrometry quiz and then i go to my microbiology lab, and at the end of my lab i'm working through some questions and i feel like i'm slowing down a bit. Well, it's 4:30.. 4:30!!! That's 9.5 HOURS after i had taken any sort of stimulants. Again like i said before, unless this was some bizzare situation where somehow getting less sleep made me more alert (i've done it before and felt like total dog shit every time, even with stimulants), i think i may have found a winner/winning combination here. I don't know if the minerals in here are doing a lot of it, or if it's the propionyl-l-carnitine, but it's working very well. I have taken neurostim + caffeine (as high as 250mg) + glucophase XR + alcar and not noticed these kinds of results so there must be something in the mineral/propionyl-l-carnitine/l-asparagine ingredients/synergy. Tomorrow i'm thinking i'll just take 4 durablast caps on it's own, and then maybe another 2 later in the day as i drop off my energy.

09-22-2005, 05:10 PM	#8
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09-21-2005, 05:44 AM	#2
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Day 1: September 19th, 2005: I recieved the Durablast when i got home from school and found it waiting for me. I was really excited and since i was pretty tired, i decided to go ahead and take 4 caps with 1 glucophase XR and some vitamin C before my workout. Now i found the feeling with this supplement was similar to neurostim, but the energy boost was quite a bit better initially. It's hard to explain, but i had a tense feeling in my head, like there was some pressure on the back of my head and my brain was throbbing. This would happen with neurostim as well sometimes, only Durablast feels a little bit 'cleaner' (probably because high doses of tyrosine can make me feel a bit woozy). Anyways the energy was really good, and it lasted for a long time. It was steady and clean and it didnt' feel anxious like an ECA. I had a good workout and i was still feeling energized at 10pm (i took Durablast at 6pm). I've been looking for a supplement that would help to just make me feel more awake (not like caffeine), and this seems like it has potential. My initial impressions are very good.

09-22-2005, 02:38 AM	#4
DarkFalcon I've got a RAGING clue! Join Date: May 2005 Location: dnyc99's cleaning staff Posts: 11,511 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 299	Very nice detailed log bro. Great job, I'll be following this and your upcoming one. :nosthumbs

09-22-2005, 05:11 AM	#5
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Day 3: September 21th, 2005: Once again last night i didn't get very much sleep. The night before i had gotten 6.5-7 hours of sleep (and then taken my magical morning potion and felt great all day), and last night i only got about 7-7.5. So the two days in a row of low sleep started to wear me down today. Getting up this morning was so incredibly hard, but i managed to get up and take 4 Durablast. I popped 2 durablast + 600mg NAC into a container to take to school with me for a mid day boost, and i drank about 1/3 of a scoop of neurostim about 30 minutes after i took the Durablast with 8mg ephedrine. Now when i got home i found a half drunk cup of neurostim, so apparantly i only drank half of what i had intended to drink this morning. I found the same sort of clarity and alertness (clean, almost like i had slept more), came over me quite quickly, but there was a lingering feeling of fatigue that i just couldn't shake off (my body needed rest, plain and simple). But i was very impress by what Durablast did to help me get going. The effects started to wear off around 1pm today and i slowed down. I popped the next 2 durablast and 600mg NAC and they didn't have a large effect. Things proceeded smoothly, if not a bit sluggishly for the rest of the day. Yesterday morning I took 6 caps of Durablast, 1/2 scoop of neurostim and 1 GXR and 8mg of ephedrine. Today i took 4 caps of Durablast, 1/3 scoop (maybe a bit less) of neurostim, and 8mg ephedrine. The lack of GXR and the addition Durablast/Neurostim made the effects a bit less pronounced (hard to tell properly due to different amounts of sleep), but the main difference was that they didn't last as long. IMPORTANT! More so than Neurostim, alcar, ala, green tea, NAC, ECA, other stimulants, etc... The addition of durablast has made my mental clarity and focus MUCH better. Doing calculus was much easier it seemed, and following along with various thermodynamic proofs and ir spectra analysis in class was MUCH easier than before. It seemed to be very pronounced. Now this could just be a fluke that it was a topic that i specifically understood well, or maybe i was just getting the hang of certain concepts and calculations, but it just "felt different". Anyways i love this product and i'm going to marry it and you can't stop me. Hopefully these effects don't die off/don't prove to just be circumstancial, because if they aren't then i will be taking this as a staple supplement.

09-23-2005, 04:37 AM	#10
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Day 4: September 22th, 2005: So as outlined in my post below, i took 4 caps this morning on their own. The effects were good but not as strong, and didn't last as long as with GXR or with neurostim. I managed to hold out fine until 6 when i took 4 more caps and 1GXR (and a small banana). The energy boost was not as pronounced as earlier, but after finishing the lower body portion of my HST workout, i became very dizzy and lightheaded (hypoglycemic i think). I guess the banana wasn't enough with the GXR, so i ate half of a peach and felt a bit better. Overall i had a good workout with good pumps, and my endurance seemed to be up a bit, compared to normal. I'm going to TRY and get some more sleep tonight but i don't see getting more than 7-7.5. Tomorrow i'm gonna go all out and take 6 caps Durablast, 1GXR, 1 scoop neurostim, 8mg ephedrine, and then vitamin C and my multi. I need to get a lot of stuff done...

09-24-2005, 06:46 AM	#12
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Day 5: September 22th, 2005: Today i took my large cocktail to try and save me from a shitty night of sleep last night, maybe 6-6.5 hours. I turned my cell phone ringer off, yet a text message, then call, still rang/beeped. Anyways i took 4 Durablast, 1 GXR, 8mg ephdrine, and almost a full scoop of neurostim. It worked not bad until about 11 and then i felt like death. 3 days of low sleep in a row is beyond critical for me. I didn't take any more stimulants the rest of the day, and at 4:30 near the end of my physics lab i was very dizzy/sickly and i couldn't think straight. I couldn't even add numbers together properly, and my motor skills were terrible. I just want to make it clear that those negative effects had nothing to do with any of the supplements i'm taking, they're just a result of a lack of sleep, high stress and too much work. I'm going to sleep a lot tonight, and make sure i keep it up over the weekend and next week. I will be taking only Durablast for the next while now that i've gotten the experimental phase/low sleep phase done with.

09-25-2005, 05:24 PM	#14
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Day 6: September 24th, 2005: I got a goods night sleep last night and i took just 2 caps of Durablast this morning. I had a bit of a headache but it died down after a few hours. I worked painting my girlfriend's dad's place again. I had to rush home, take 4 Durablast, eat really quickly, and then run to the gym right away (no digestion time). I then i had to cram a 1.5-2 hour HST workout into 1 hour, which made me feel sick (combined with a full stomache), to say the least. Considering the intense workout that made me ill, it was really good. My reps were up a bit and i had a really good pump. Aside: I started to get a sore throat last night and woke up this morning with a bad sore throat. This is what happens when you're girlfriend gets sick, and you have to sit in a room with hundreds of peasants at school who have no manners and cough all over you.

10-02-2005, 05:29 PM	#15
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Ok i've been really busy and totaly forgot to update this log. I will add a bunch of them now. Day 7: September 25th, 2005: Quick update because i have no time. I took 2 when i left to go to my university, and then another 4 about an hour later. I did math and chem all day and my focus/understanding was quite good. No workout today.

10-02-2005, 05:30 PM	#16
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Day 8: September 26th, 2005: Again absolutely no time. My school schedual is absolutely insane and i'm starting to die here. I took 2 in the morning and then 3 before my workout. I'm stricly taking Durablast. I was feelin low at around 11 and felt like taking some ECA or more durablast but i held off and i made it through the day ok. I only took 3 at around 7pm because i wanted to be able to go to sleep at around 11. My workout was quite decent but not great, i've been tired and i'm getting sick. Considering everything it was ok. I sound like i'm in a hole though (stuffed up nose).

10-02-2005, 05:31 PM	#17
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Day 9: September 27th, 2005: I took 3 in the morning and then i held out all day and took another 3 before my workout. I was getting tired during the day (didn't get enough sleep), but i managed to have quite a good workout last night. I feel like i'm fighting off this cold more quickly than normal, so i'm really impressed with that. The energy from Durablast is the kind of energy where you can forget you even took something. Now at first read that sentence might sound like a negative shot towards Durablast, but let me explain. I've found myself several times 6-8 hours into school, working on calculus problems and thinking. "i'm impressed that i'm not more tired right now and that i'm able to be so productive and think so clearly, it's almost like i've taken something...". And then i remember that i've taken some durablast. It's not a jittery, fight or flight adrenalin type rush that just makes you awake regardless of how you feel. It gently picks you up and makes you feel like you've had a bit more sleep than you actually have. I really like it a lot, and since adding it my workouts have been consistent, if not showing a small improvement in endurance, regardless of a lack of sleep. All of this with a low Caffeine content, which is a huge plus for me. Do to the negative sides of caffeine i don't like to take a lot of it if i can avoid it. A lot of new products are coming out with 300mg+ of caffeine per serving. This is a bit of a cheap way of doing things, because caffeine is dirt cheap and of course adding a ton of caffeine is going to make a product 'work' well.

10-02-2005, 05:32 PM	#18
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Day 10: September 28th, 2005: I took nothing in the morning to see how long i could last, but i crapped out at around 12:30, then i took 6. It was much harder to keep focused in class and to keep awake. I found it very hard to keep my eyes open and due to my level of fatigue it was extremely difficult to focus all of my concentration on the professor and really try to make sense of what he was saying. On a good nights sleep, or with Durablast (other stims as well, but especially durablast for the focus) i find it much easier to stay focused and awake. After i took the 6 Durablast i found that for a little while it was actually harder to focus because i was a bit overwhelmed and my head felt a bit fuzzy, but that quickly died down and i got to work. Usually when i take them in the morning i have a 40 minute drive to school that allows things to settling in. I took another 3 before my workout and i was ultra tired. I took them around 6 and i didn't want to be up late tonight so i shyed away from a full dose or more. Unfortunatly 3 was not enough to save me from my fatigue and stress, however about half way through the workout things picked up. Overall i had a good workout and i got a good pump. My reps were up today as well. I found that even though physically and mentally i was exhausted, i had enough will power and focus to push through it and bang out my reps and sets even though i just wanted to pass out. That is a huge advantage to the over worked and under rested school/work go-er. I may need more of this stuff.

10-02-2005, 05:34 PM	#20
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Day 12: September 30th, 2005: I took 4 Durablast in the morning and then 2 at about 7pm (after i took a nap). I didn't get much sleep due to my math test this morning so i rode out my fatigue and then took an hour nap at about 6pm. I was still very tired so i took 2 Durablast to keep me going for a bit longer. Still sick...!