Ergopharms "Ergolean Amp".

MotorcityAl · 06-16-2005, 06:03 PM

Amp is a new energy product put out by Patrick Arnold/Ergopharm. It is a non-ephedra product, but got excellent reviews by the testers. I got my first order yesterday, and tried it this AM. The dosage is 2-4 tabs once per day prior to physical activity or strenuous mental tasks. I took 4 tabs at 10:30 AM with my workout starting at 11:30 AM. A few minutes after 11:00 I got an extreme energy rush that lasted ... well it's still going on. It's not a jittery feel like Ephedra can cause, and I found myself extremely focused on my workout. It was a good workout. Will keep you updated. It is recommended that you take the product no more than 3 times per week to keep your body from becoming desensitized to it. I welcome any questions or comments. Until then, Excelsior!

MotorcityAl · 06-16-2005, 06:15 PM

ErgoLean AMP™

Introducing ErgoLean AMP from ErgoPharm. This monstrous breakthrough represents a culmination of years of research, trial and error. Since the ephedra-free products have all fallen short of providing the buzz that drove the true frenzy associated with ephedra-based fat burners, Patrick Arnold and ErgoPharm set out to deliver where others failed.

Thermo-Stimulant Gadgets
Geranamine™ is a naturally occurring compound with adrenaline-like properties that has very potent and noticeable energy producing effects. It also has a very low toxicity (as determined by LD-50). Compared to ephedra its subjective effects are more central than peripheral, leading to a much more pleasant and tolerable energy enhancing experience.

Chocamine, a powerful stimulant possessing hunger-demolishing properties, earns inclusion in ErgoLean AMP. Chocamine contains several natural ingredients to both thwart hunger and stimulate the central nervous system.

Caffeine is well established as a fat-burning gadget. Its presence in AMP, coupled with Geranamine™ and Chocamine, makes this new weapon the most powerful and effective fat burner/energy enhancer on the market today.

No more puny ephedra-free products to serve rations of continual disappointment. ErgoLean AMP is a creature created to intimidate body fat, to pour electricity into your brain and to light a fire under your ass.

The Monster has been created and there is nowhere to hide.

Supplement Facts
Serving Size 2 capsules
Servings Per Container 45

Amount per Serving
% Daily Value

AMP is a proprietary blend of:
Chocamine™
(Theobroma cacau seed)
Geranamine™
(constituent of Geranium oil)
Caffeine Anhydrous
625mg
*

*Daily Value not established

CAUTION!: Consult with your physician before using this product, particularly if you are taking prescription medications. Not for persons under the age of 18. Women who are pregnant or nursing should not use this product. Do not use this product if you are at risk for or are being treated for high blood pressure, heart, kidney, thyroid or psychiatric disease, anxiety, depression, seizure disorders or stroke. Do not combine this product with any other thermogenic or stimulant product. The recommended serving of this product contains about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee and individuals with caffeine sensitivity should consider the amount to take. Everyone’s metabolism is different and may respond differently to the variety and amount of each ingredient in this product. Do not exceed recommended serving. If you experience any adverse reaction to this product, immediately discontinue use and contact your physician. Do not take near bedtime as it may cause sleeplessness.

**warriors** · 06-16-2005, 07:08 PM

the reviews for the product have been great

THEKING · 06-17-2005, 12:28 AM

I just got 5 of these in guys so if you want them please buy them lol. I should have them on the site this evening but it wont look pretty because the site is still in transition.

MotorcityAl · 06-17-2005, 03:07 PM

Since the instructions on the product say not to take it more than 3 times per week, I will be alternating with X-lean on the off days available from http://www.***************.com . Since I didn't get down on my diet this year when I was supposed to, I am doing an extreme diet consisting of 3 High Protein meal replacements throughout the day with a "sensible meal/not really" Tuna, vegetable, and water for my other meal. I take a multi in the AM, 5000 mg of vitamin C throughout the day, Beverly International Joint formula (I'm an old guy so I need this) and of course Flax seed oil/Barleans baby. (mixed with my drinks-3 Tbsp./day) If I feel I need something extra, I'll add a fat free yogurt or fat free cottage cheese. Every third or fourth day, I'll do a refeed with chicken breast or lean steak, baked sweet potato, and veggies of course. Lots of water. Getting in shape for our annual canoe trip, cause I run around in shorts and that's it. Gotta be buff, cause I'm the stuff.

MotorcityAl · 06-17-2005, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEKING

I just got 5 of these in guys so if you want them please buy them lol. I should have them on the site this evening but it wont look pretty because the site is still in transition.

Just checked it out to see your price, and it's comparable to my other source. I just bought 4 bottles from them, so my supply is pretty good for now, but will probably get some more X-Lean from you soon.

LatsMakeTheMan · 06-17-2005, 09:05 PM

Hey guys this is the first I'm hearing of this product. I'm trying to find out a bit more about it.

This may be an incredibly stupid question, so I apologize in advance, but I've always kind of associated Ergopharm with pro-hormones and other kinds of hormone modulators such as 1ad, 4ad and 6-oxo. (I don't mean that in a bad way).

Does AMP "tamper" with hormones at all? I've got nothing against people using what they want, but that's not the path I want to take for myself.

Thanks for any help.

~~Hacking is a Felony~~ · 06-17-2005, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LatsMakeTheMan

Does AMP "tamper" with hormones at all?

hey Lats .. no .. not at all

LatsMakeTheMan · 06-17-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PROVERBS 4:13

hey Lats .. no .. not at all

Ah ok.....thanks a lot bro. I guess I'll give it a shot, then

Since you're only supposed to take it like every other day, do you think it would be alright to use EC on the "off" days?

Ghosting · 06-17-2005, 10:53 PM

The biggest difference between AMP an EC is AMP effects are more central were EC is more periperal (hence the jitter). With a central stimulator you tend to feel more focused and energetic without that wired feel that comes with ephedra/ephedrine.

LatsMakeTheMan · 06-18-2005, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghosting

The biggest difference between AMP an EC is AMP effects are more central were EC is more periperal (hence the jitter). With a central stimulator you tend to feel more focused and energetic without that wired feel that comes with ephedra/ephedrine.

Cool....so do you think it's ok to alternate them between days?

**warriors** · 06-18-2005, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LatsMakeTheMan

Cool....so do you think it's ok to alternate them between days?

your only suppose to take amp no more then 3 times a week arent you??

Ghosting · 06-18-2005, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LatsMakeTheMan

Cool....so do you think it's ok to alternate them between days?

Yes.

They are different, but follow the directions on Amp.

LatsMakeTheMan · 06-20-2005, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghosting

Yes.

They are different, but follow the directions on Amp.

Ok, thanks man

MotorcityAl · 06-20-2005, 05:41 PM

As I said, I will be cycling amp on Mon-Wed-Fri with X-Lean (ECA)-purchased from http://www.***************.com on the off days. I took 4 caps (the max recommended dosage again at 10:30 AM and left for my workout around 11:15 AM. Didn't feel the rush I did the first time I took it, but my energy level was excellent. With my extreme dieting, I was able to maintain my intensity, and some pretty respectable weights, and Monday is leg day for me, so that means squats, and lots of them. I returned from the gym around 1:00 PM, started my protein drink, and zoom! Felt the rush again, but it wasn't an unpleasant feeling, and certainly I didn't feel jitters. Also, I find the appetite suppresent factor from this product as opposed to the ECA (which doesn't suppress my appetite/nor give me jitters, but that's just me-everyone reacts differently). So far, I like amp. Onward fellow iron pumpers. Excelsior!

~~Hacking is a Felony~~ · 06-20-2005, 05:58 PM

Great log so far Al .. I'm moving this to the supp reviews section since you're keeping a log on this

MotorcityAl · 06-21-2005, 05:53 PM

Even though today was an off day for Amp, as I said, I am using X-Lean (purchased from http://www.***************.com) on my alternate days, and I like that product also. I am dosing that at 2 1/2 hour prior to my first meal, 2 approx. 1/2 hour before my workout (11:30AMish), and the last 2 around 2:30 PM 1/2 hour before my afternoon meal. Keeping the diet strict. Today was shoulders, Tri's, Calves, and the obligatory Cardio. Down to around 178# (from 185# 2 weeks ago). Pants are falling down (unfortunately there is....let's say the water must have been cold

). Anyway, these products are helping my energy levels and keeping my appetite in suppression.

Ghosting · 06-21-2005, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotorcityAl

Pants are falling down (unfortunately there is....let's say the water must have been cold

LOL

Ghosting · 06-21-2005, 06:14 PM

Thats the bad thing about caffeine. Its a vasoconstrictor, and will make the flaccid size smaller.

MotorcityAl · 06-23-2005, 05:07 PM

I was pretty busy yesterday, so I didn't post, but yesterday was an "AMP" day, and my Wednesday abs & cardio. Energy levels were good, and I didn't feel the "rush" I felt the first couple times I took it. Just a steady feeling of energy and focus. Today was X-lean, and as I said, 2 in the AM, 2 prior to workout which was back and bi's. Hit it heavy and intense....it was a very good workout. for the amount of calories I am ingesting (not very many) my energy during workouts is pretty good. I attribute that to the AMP and X-Lean. I'm not sure which one I like better, but both are good, and since AMP should only be taken 3 times per week max (to avoid desensitizing your body to it) this regimen seems to be working well. Feeling very lean, mean, and exploding on the scene (take it easy big guy).

Ghosting · 06-23-2005, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotorcityAl

Feeling very lean, mean, and exploding on the scene (take it easy big guy).

06-16-2005, 06:03 PM	#1
MotorcityAl Motorcity God Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Motor City Posts: 187 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Ergopharms "Ergolean Amp". Amp is a new energy product put out by Patrick Arnold/Ergopharm. It is a non-ephedra product, but got excellent reviews by the testers. I got my first order yesterday, and tried it this AM. The dosage is 2-4 tabs once per day prior to physical activity or strenuous mental tasks. I took 4 tabs at 10:30 AM with my workout starting at 11:30 AM. A few minutes after 11:00 I got an extreme energy rush that lasted ... well it's still going on. It's not a jittery feel like Ephedra can cause, and I found myself extremely focused on my workout. It was a good workout. Will keep you updated. It is recommended that you take the product no more than 3 times per week to keep your body from becoming desensitized to it. I welcome any questions or comments. Until then, Excelsior! __________________ Body under construction.

06-16-2005, 06:15 PM	#2
MotorcityAl Motorcity God Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Motor City Posts: 187 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Product Facts. ErgoLean AMP™ Introducing ErgoLean AMP from ErgoPharm. This monstrous breakthrough represents a culmination of years of research, trial and error. Since the ephedra-free products have all fallen short of providing the buzz that drove the true frenzy associated with ephedra-based fat burners, Patrick Arnold and ErgoPharm set out to deliver where others failed. Thermo-Stimulant Gadgets Geranamine™ is a naturally occurring compound with adrenaline-like properties that has very potent and noticeable energy producing effects. It also has a very low toxicity (as determined by LD-50). Compared to ephedra its subjective effects are more central than peripheral, leading to a much more pleasant and tolerable energy enhancing experience. Chocamine, a powerful stimulant possessing hunger-demolishing properties, earns inclusion in ErgoLean AMP. Chocamine contains several natural ingredients to both thwart hunger and stimulate the central nervous system. Caffeine is well established as a fat-burning gadget. Its presence in AMP, coupled with Geranamine™ and Chocamine, makes this new weapon the most powerful and effective fat burner/energy enhancer on the market today. No more puny ephedra-free products to serve rations of continual disappointment. ErgoLean AMP is a creature created to intimidate body fat, to pour electricity into your brain and to light a fire under your ass. The Monster has been created and there is nowhere to hide. Supplement Facts Serving Size 2 capsules Servings Per Container 45 Amount per Serving % Daily Value AMP is a proprietary blend of: Chocamine™ (Theobroma cacau seed) Geranamine™ (constituent of Geranium oil) Caffeine Anhydrous 625mg * *Daily Value not established CAUTION!: Consult with your physician before using this product, particularly if you are taking prescription medications. Not for persons under the age of 18. Women who are pregnant or nursing should not use this product. Do not use this product if you are at risk for or are being treated for high blood pressure, heart, kidney, thyroid or psychiatric disease, anxiety, depression, seizure disorders or stroke. Do not combine this product with any other thermogenic or stimulant product. The recommended serving of this product contains about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee and individuals with caffeine sensitivity should consider the amount to take. Everyone’s metabolism is different and may respond differently to the variety and amount of each ingredient in this product. Do not exceed recommended serving. If you experience any adverse reaction to this product, immediately discontinue use and contact your physician. Do not take near bedtime as it may cause sleeplessness. __________________ Body under construction.

06-16-2005, 07:08 PM	#3
warriors The world is yours Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,127 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 29	the reviews for the product have been great __________________ Not Around...

06-17-2005, 12:28 AM	#4
THEKING SupplementKings.com Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 423 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 8	I just got 5 of these in guys so if you want them please buy them lol. I should have them on the site this evening but it wont look pretty because the site is still in transition. __________________ www.***************.com SupplementKings.com Forum

06-17-2005, 03:07 PM	#5
MotorcityAl Motorcity God Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Motor City Posts: 187 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Since the instructions on the product say not to take it more than 3 times per week, I will be alternating with X-lean on the off days available from http://www.***************.com . Since I didn't get down on my diet this year when I was supposed to, I am doing an extreme diet consisting of 3 High Protein meal replacements throughout the day with a "sensible meal/not really" Tuna, vegetable, and water for my other meal. I take a multi in the AM, 5000 mg of vitamin C throughout the day, Beverly International Joint formula (I'm an old guy so I need this) and of course Flax seed oil/Barleans baby. (mixed with my drinks-3 Tbsp./day) If I feel I need something extra, I'll add a fat free yogurt or fat free cottage cheese. Every third or fourth day, I'll do a refeed with chicken breast or lean steak, baked sweet potato, and veggies of course. Lots of water. Getting in shape for our annual canoe trip, cause I run around in shorts and that's it. Gotta be buff, cause I'm the stuff. __________________ Body under construction.

06-17-2005, 09:05 PM	#7
LatsMakeTheMan Pro Stature Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 185 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Hey guys this is the first I'm hearing of this product. I'm trying to find out a bit more about it. This may be an incredibly stupid question, so I apologize in advance, but I've always kind of associated Ergopharm with pro-hormones and other kinds of hormone modulators such as 1ad, 4ad and 6-oxo. (I don't mean that in a bad way). Does AMP "tamper" with hormones at all? I've got nothing against people using what they want, but that's not the path I want to take for myself. Thanks for any help. __________________ Super Saiyan in training..... My MySpace account....come love me: http://www.myspace.com/eric2080

06-17-2005, 10:53 PM	#10
Ghosting IronMass Donator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,801 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 22	The biggest difference between AMP an EC is AMP effects are more central were EC is more periperal (hence the jitter). With a central stimulator you tend to feel more focused and energetic without that wired feel that comes with ephedra/ephedrine. __________________ Robcardu is the Jesus of the 90s. Last edited by Ghosting : 06-18-2005 at 01:14 AM.

06-20-2005, 05:41 PM	#15
MotorcityAl Motorcity God Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Motor City Posts: 187 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	As I said, I will be cycling amp on Mon-Wed-Fri with X-Lean (ECA)-purchased from http://www.***************.com on the off days. I took 4 caps (the max recommended dosage again at 10:30 AM and left for my workout around 11:15 AM. Didn't feel the rush I did the first time I took it, but my energy level was excellent. With my extreme dieting, I was able to maintain my intensity, and some pretty respectable weights, and Monday is leg day for me, so that means squats, and lots of them. I returned from the gym around 1:00 PM, started my protein drink, and zoom! Felt the rush again, but it wasn't an unpleasant feeling, and certainly I didn't feel jitters. Also, I find the appetite suppresent factor from this product as opposed to the ECA (which doesn't suppress my appetite/nor give me jitters, but that's just me-everyone reacts differently). So far, I like amp. Onward fellow iron pumpers. Excelsior! __________________ Body under construction.

06-20-2005, 05:58 PM	#16
~~Hacking is a Felony~~ I destroy property Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,105 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Great log so far Al .. I'm moving this to the supp reviews section since you're keeping a log on this

06-21-2005, 05:53 PM	#17
MotorcityAl Motorcity God Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Motor City Posts: 187 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Even though today was an off day for Amp, as I said, I am using X-Lean (purchased from http://www.***************.com) on my alternate days, and I like that product also. I am dosing that at 2 1/2 hour prior to my first meal, 2 approx. 1/2 hour before my workout (11:30AMish), and the last 2 around 2:30 PM 1/2 hour before my afternoon meal. Keeping the diet strict. Today was shoulders, Tri's, Calves, and the obligatory Cardio. Down to around 178# (from 185# 2 weeks ago). Pants are falling down (unfortunately there is....let's say the water must have been cold ). Anyway, these products are helping my energy levels and keeping my appetite in suppression. __________________ Body under construction.

06-21-2005, 06:14 PM	#19
Ghosting IronMass Donator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,801 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 22	Thats the bad thing about caffeine. Its a vasoconstrictor, and will make the flaccid size smaller. __________________ Robcardu is the Jesus of the 90s.

06-23-2005, 05:07 PM	#20
MotorcityAl Motorcity God Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Motor City Posts: 187 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	I was pretty busy yesterday, so I didn't post, but yesterday was an "AMP" day, and my Wednesday abs & cardio. Energy levels were good, and I didn't feel the "rush" I felt the first couple times I took it. Just a steady feeling of energy and focus. Today was X-lean, and as I said, 2 in the AM, 2 prior to workout which was back and bi's. Hit it heavy and intense....it was a very good workout. for the amount of calories I am ingesting (not very many) my energy during workouts is pretty good. I attribute that to the AMP and X-Lean. I'm not sure which one I like better, but both are good, and since AMP should only be taken 3 times per week max (to avoid desensitizing your body to it) this regimen seems to be working well. Feeling very lean, mean, and exploding on the scene (take it easy big guy). __________________ Body under construction.