Olympic Lifts: Yay Or Nay? - Page 2

Nathan1 · 11-29-2006, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Thaript1

but never of the snatches and jerks and cleans....I think its dumb training.

BLASPHEMY!!

**romanaz** · 11-29-2006, 03:28 AM

yeah, i'd like an explanation on that thaript!

the clean is a fun exercise!

**DJSTARER** · 03-18-2007, 03:14 PM

i believe they are solid moves... but have you ever seen a competitive olympic lifter over the age of 40? I know I have not.

**romanaz** · 03-18-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DJSTARER

i believe they are solid moves... but have you ever seen a competitive olympic lifter over the age of 40? I know I have not.

Yes I have. A damned strong one to, I think he just nailed a 150kg or so clean and jerk @ ~80kg. Guys a monster.

The reason you don't "see" competitive olympic lifters of 40 is because you don't see older guys in the bigger meets (aka olympics or worlds) because after a certain period of time devouting your ENTIRE life to it, they can't make due monetarily so its either quit competitions or go broke.

I have kinda changed my position on them. I think EVERYONE should learn/know how to snatch and use it on a semi-regular basis. Cleans should only be done if you can hold it properly up top, otherwise you risk damaging your wrists.

Vegeto · 03-19-2007, 10:38 PM

One thing I've noticed about the clean and snatch is that they directly develope confidence. You CANNOT get under the bar in a snatch properly unless you are absolutely confident in your technique, and your ability to move the weight. You MUST believe you are fine when you go under to catch the weight, or you don't catch it right.

**romanaz** · 01-19-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJSTARER

i believe they are solid moves... but have you ever seen a competitive olympic lifter over the age of 40? I know I have not.

1980 Olympian Bob Giordano snatchs 100 in the Masters 55 in the 105kg class

Bob jerking 120 at the same meet (last december)

my other coach nick curry snatching 113kg in the 105's masters 45

nick jerking 147 same meet

not competitive over 40?

navarone · 01-19-2008, 10:20 PM

Wow... just.. wow. That is intense... i would love to start incorperating those into my training.. but i would prolly blow out my wrist or back.

**romanaz** · 01-19-2008, 11:06 PM

and if you want to get technical, the 69kg class this year was won by a 38 year old @ the worlds...

eh, navarone, you work into it and get used to it.

navarone · 01-19-2008, 11:12 PM

I agree yea i would probably eventually get used to it. But i just dont see the reward being greater then the risk. Now im not saying that its not worth it.. cuz hell.. those Oly lifters are crazy strong and i respect them. I just don't think its for me. However The Deadlift is amazing!

**romanaz** · 01-20-2008, 01:13 AM

word. deadlift is good, but im more for explosive such. I can DL 150kg faster and more explosively (and better form to) then when I could pull 190kg. =D

navarone · 01-20-2008, 01:30 AM

Keep up the good work man. I've been seeing u switched to Oly style.. i checked out ur log to. I'm impressed.

**romanaz** · 01-20-2008, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by navarone

Keep up the good work man. I've been seeing u switched to Oly style.. i checked out ur log to. I'm impressed.

thanks man. Yeah, Oly is way more fun.

deathsentance · 01-20-2008, 01:43 PM

We do them once a week in my weight training class and they can be pretty brutal. I do like doing them its just the form is hard to get right,but once you do you can really expolade and throw up some good numbers

**romanaz** · 01-20-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by deathsentance

We do them once a week in my weight training class and they can be pretty brutal. I do like doing them its just the form is hard to get right,but once you do you can really expolade and throw up some good numbers

yepp. We got a guy who just came in from strongman at my club. He powersnatched 75kg easily, with some form tweaks he will be doing 100+ easily soon. Interesting that a guy from Strongman/PL can squat ATG perfectly with the bar overhead. Amazing.

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03-18-2007, 03:14 PM	#33
DJSTARER Writing Staff Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 3,911 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 109	i believe they are solid moves... but have you ever seen a competitive olympic lifter over the age of 40? I know I have not. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: Total 1400 in competition

03-19-2007, 10:38 PM	#35
Vegeto blameless sinner Join Date: May 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 804 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 15	One thing I've noticed about the clean and snatch is that they directly develope confidence. You CANNOT get under the bar in a snatch properly unless you are absolutely confident in your technique, and your ability to move the weight. You MUST believe you are fine when you go under to catch the weight, or you don't catch it right. __________________ ______________ ________________ ......Busy Training...... __________________ ________________ __________________

01-19-2008, 10:20 PM	#37
navarone Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 931 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 49	Re: Olympic Lifts: Yay Or Nay? Wow... just.. wow. That is intense... i would love to start incorperating those into my training.. but i would prolly blow out my wrist or back. __________________ Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated Stats: Weight: Between 200-205 depending on the day Bench: 265X5 atm. Squat: 360X5 atm.. Higest Ever 435 Deadlift: 420X3 Waist: 34 Arms: 17.5 cold . Pics Finally! http://www.ironmass.com/f16/nav-s-1-...ulk-12947.html

01-19-2008, 11:12 PM	#39
navarone Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 931 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 49	Re: Olympic Lifts: Yay Or Nay? I agree yea i would probably eventually get used to it. But i just dont see the reward being greater then the risk. Now im not saying that its not worth it.. cuz hell.. those Oly lifters are crazy strong and i respect them. I just don't think its for me. However The Deadlift is amazing! __________________ Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated Stats: Weight: Between 200-205 depending on the day Bench: 265X5 atm. Squat: 360X5 atm.. Higest Ever 435 Deadlift: 420X3 Waist: 34 Arms: 17.5 cold . Pics Finally! http://www.ironmass.com/f16/nav-s-1-...ulk-12947.html

01-20-2008, 01:30 AM	#41
navarone Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 931 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 49	Re: Olympic Lifts: Yay Or Nay? Keep up the good work man. I've been seeing u switched to Oly style.. i checked out ur log to. I'm impressed. __________________ Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated Stats: Weight: Between 200-205 depending on the day Bench: 265X5 atm. Squat: 360X5 atm.. Higest Ever 435 Deadlift: 420X3 Waist: 34 Arms: 17.5 cold . Pics Finally! http://www.ironmass.com/f16/nav-s-1-...ulk-12947.html

01-20-2008, 01:43 PM	#43
deathsentance Amateur Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: GA Posts: 88 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 8	Re: Olympic Lifts: Yay Or Nay? We do them once a week in my weight training class and they can be pretty brutal. I do like doing them its just the form is hard to get right,but once you do you can really expolade and throw up some good numbers __________________ Current Goals: Bench= 315 squat= 400 deadlift= over 400

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