Vince scores a 6 on the Wonderlic Test

**jkeithc82** · 02-28-2006, 06:34 PM

Reportedly, Vince Young has scored a 6 on the NFL's Wonderlic test. This, if true, would be an extremely low score (Charlies Parillo said anyone scoring that low would be "stupid"). Do you think this really matters as far as predicting what Young's future may be? I have also seen it reported that it was a 16, but the talk yesterday was it was as low as 6. Just for some reference, here are how some past QB's have faired.

Eli Manning = 39
Donovan McNabb = 16, 12
Daunte Culpepper = 18, 21, 15
Ryan Leaf = 27
Brett Favre = 22
Dan Marino = 14

Just to name a few.

http://www.unc.edu/~mirabile/Wonderlic.htm

ZackMurphy · 02-28-2006, 07:34 PM

Doesn't matter one iota as to his football instincts, and coaches will confirm this. When tested on instincts ("you're chase from the pocket and your top 2 receivers are covered man for man, and a running lane opens, but requires...", etc), Vince does well on that.

But a 6 does mean that me might be an intellectual match for a coffee mug.

I don't know if you've seen/taken the test, but I have. You can easily be pretty bright and score only about a 30. But smart guys do get better scores. Two 50s have been scored, by the way.

But you have to be pretty dense to get below about 15. At least a dozen of the questions are absolute gimme's, so to score a 6, or even a 16, means you really can't think much at all.

**jkeithc82** · 02-28-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ZackMurphy

Doesn't matter one iota as to his football instincts, and coaches will confirm this. When tested on instincts ("you're chase from the pocket and your top 2 receivers are covered man for man, and a running lane opens, but requires...", etc), Vince does well on that.

But a 6 does mean that me might be an intellectual match for a coffee mug.

I don't know if you've seen/taken the test, but I have. You can easily be pretty bright and score only about a 30. But smart guys do get better scores. Two 50s have been scored, by the way.

But you have to be pretty dense to get below about 15. At least a dozen of the questions are absolute gimme's, so to score a 6, or even a 16, means you really can't think much at all.

I've never taken it, but I'd like to see how I would fair. I listed Dan Marino in there to show that just because someone scores a 14 doesn't mean he can't have NFL success. I just wonder if this could potentially knock Vince down a few notches as far as his placement goes on draft day.

**DarkFalcon** · 02-28-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jkeithc82

I've never taken it, but I'd like to see how I would fair. I listed Dan Marino in there to show that just because someone scores a 14 doesn't mean he can't have NFL success. I just wonder if this could potentially knock Vince down a few notches as far as his placement goes on draft day.

Hey if you find that test post a link I'd like to take it too.

hed · 02-28-2006, 07:53 PM

I just had a feeling the kid wasn't brilliant.

I remember looking at the scores from last season and searching the internet to take it. I got all but one right in the 12 minutes. The only one that I got wrong was actually pretty tricky.. had to do with the solstices I believe. So I guess that's a 49? I didn't think there were 50 questions though. A lot of them aren't very hard at all... Sample: Which number is lowest? 3 .2 4 -1 -5.9

Personally? This should hurt him since he's a QB. Although, I am curious what Michael Vick got on it. If it were ANYTHING but QB I'd say nothing. O'Dell Thurman got single digits on it. Frank Gore (although I think he's actually has mental handicap?) and Roscoe Parrish scored single digits and can play the game. I just personally would opt for someone a little brighter even if it means less athleticism at QB.

EDIT: I'll look for the test, I had to google it last year, but I think you could find it on ESPN now that it's newsworthy.

**jkeithc82** · 02-28-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Hey if you find that test post a link I'd like to take it too.

Yeah I don't know where to find the test, just had discussions about it yesterday on the radio. I'd love to have the real thing posted here in the Sports forum for us all to take it.

**warriors** · 02-28-2006, 08:03 PM

Here is a sample test. It only has 15 questions but it's just like the questions on the real test:

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228test.html

ZackMurphy · 02-28-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by warriors

Here is a sample test. It only has 15 questions but it's just like the questions on the real test:

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228test.html

That's a good sample.

Make sure you adhere to the 5 minute limit.

**DarkFalcon** · 02-28-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZackMurphy

That's a good sample.

Make sure you adhere to the 5 minute limit.

Well I got 15/15 on that so I guess I already kicked his ass.

ZackMurphy · 02-28-2006, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Well I got 15/15 on that so I guess I already kicked his ass.

Not in 5 minutes, you didn't. Well, you might have, actually. 13 of those questions are ultra-easy, and only two require any actual math. They can't use calculators, by the way.

**DarkFalcon** · 02-28-2006, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ZackMurphy

Not in 5 minutes, you didn't. Well, you might have, actually. 13 of those questions are ultra-easy, and only two require any actual math. They can't use calculators, by the way.

Yea I did, the only one that was hard at all was the article one with the different size font. I had to write it down to calculate it. Most of them took less then 5 seconds to answer.

hed · 02-28-2006, 08:27 PM

Just looked it up, Frank Gore got a 6. I'm fairly sure I remember them saying he was on the special eductation track at Miami which allowed his SAT scores to be below the required SAT scores. Do with that what you will.

ZackMurphy · 02-28-2006, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Yea I did, the only one that was hard at all was the article one with the different size font. I had to write it down to calculate it. Most of them took less then 5 seconds to answer.

Well done, sir.

There's some good tutoring money in it for you, if you're a skilled Wonderlic taker. The big agents who send numerous clients to the combines help their players A LOT. They all (except for Vince, actually) get help with what to expect on the wonderlic, and the agents try to prep them for everything.

Vince's people clearly did not do this.

**DarkFalcon** · 02-28-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZackMurphy

Well done, sir.

There's some good tutoring money in it for you, if you're a skilled Wonderlic taker. The big agents who send numerous clients to the combines help their players A LOT. They all (except for Vince, actually) get help with what to expect on the wonderlic, and the agents try to prep them for everything.

Vince's people clearly did not do this.

Well I don't know many agents that will submit theri clients to the torture of having to come to Edmonton in the winter but who knows..lol.

My father and I both do mensa IQ test's for fun so these are dumbed down questions of a similar type. I've always done well on these types of test's and my tested IQ is 148.

starman · 02-28-2006, 09:28 PM

Yeah that test is weak

ZackMurphy · 03-01-2006, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Well I don't know many agents that will submit theri clients to the torture of having to come to Edmonton in the winter but who knows..lol.

My father and I both do mensa IQ test's for fun so these are dumbed down questions of a similar type. I've always done well on these types of test's and my tested IQ is 148.

148? Ha. I fart 148.

Yeah, Canada. If "Find Canada on a map" was on the wonderlic, you'd see even one more wrong answer.

The Booger · 03-01-2006, 03:18 PM

I know some real grade A moron who were excellent football players.

Our star RB in high scored a...get ready....4 on the ACT. Guy could read the defense like a pre-school book though.

**Trick D** · 03-01-2006, 06:48 PM

I missed one of them and it was reserve and resent, I thought they were opposites. Anyway, I finished the test in my head in 3 minutes.

02-28-2006, 06:34 PM	#1
jkeithc82 Moderating Wizard Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 698 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 13	Vince scores a 6 on the Wonderlic Test Reportedly, Vince Young has scored a 6 on the NFL's Wonderlic test. This, if true, would be an extremely low score (Charlies Parillo said anyone scoring that low would be "stupid"). Do you think this really matters as far as predicting what Young's future may be? I have also seen it reported that it was a 16, but the talk yesterday was it was as low as 6. Just for some reference, here are how some past QB's have faired. Eli Manning = 39 Donovan McNabb = 16, 12 Daunte Culpepper = 18, 21, 15 Ryan Leaf = 27 Brett Favre = 22 Dan Marino = 14 Just to name a few. http://www.unc.edu/~mirabile/Wonderlic.htm __________________

02-28-2006, 07:53 PM	#5
hed Pro Stature Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 396 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	I just had a feeling the kid wasn't brilliant. I remember looking at the scores from last season and searching the internet to take it. I got all but one right in the 12 minutes. The only one that I got wrong was actually pretty tricky.. had to do with the solstices I believe. So I guess that's a 49? I didn't think there were 50 questions though. A lot of them aren't very hard at all... Sample: Which number is lowest? 3 .2 4 -1 -5.9 Personally? This should hurt him since he's a QB. Although, I am curious what Michael Vick got on it. If it were ANYTHING but QB I'd say nothing. O'Dell Thurman got single digits on it. Frank Gore (although I think he's actually has mental handicap?) and Roscoe Parrish scored single digits and can play the game. I just personally would opt for someone a little brighter even if it means less athleticism at QB. EDIT: I'll look for the test, I had to google it last year, but I think you could find it on ESPN now that it's newsworthy. __________________ 5'8" Jan. 2005 - ~280 lbs.. (LipidFX) 01/02/06: 214.5 - 01/31/06: 211.5 (Phera-Plex)02/06/06: 214.0 - 04/03/06: 225.0 (Melting Point)04/10/06: 220.5 - 05/15/06: 207.5 Currently: Trying to maintain what I've got while working 50+ hours a week with a less than optimal diet. LipidFX Log Phera-Plex Log Melting Point/Basic Cuts Log

02-28-2006, 08:03 PM	#7
warriors The world is yours Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,127 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 29	Here is a sample test. It only has 15 questions but it's just like the questions on the real test: http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228test.html __________________ Not Around...

02-28-2006, 08:27 PM	#12
hed Pro Stature Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 396 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Just looked it up, Frank Gore got a 6. I'm fairly sure I remember them saying he was on the special eductation track at Miami which allowed his SAT scores to be below the required SAT scores. Do with that what you will. __________________ 5'8" Jan. 2005 - ~280 lbs.. (LipidFX) 01/02/06: 214.5 - 01/31/06: 211.5 (Phera-Plex)02/06/06: 214.0 - 04/03/06: 225.0 (Melting Point)04/10/06: 220.5 - 05/15/06: 207.5 Currently: Trying to maintain what I've got while working 50+ hours a week with a less than optimal diet. LipidFX Log Phera-Plex Log Melting Point/Basic Cuts Log

02-28-2006, 09:28 PM	#15
starman Amateur Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 78 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 3	Yeah that test is weak __________________ Grrrrr... Im a thrower.

02-28-2006, 07:34 PM	#2
ZackMurphy IronMass Donator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 547 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9	Doesn't matter one iota as to his football instincts, and coaches will confirm this. When tested on instincts ("you're chase from the pocket and your top 2 receivers are covered man for man, and a running lane opens, but requires...", etc), Vince does well on that. But a 6 does mean that me might be an intellectual match for a coffee mug. I don't know if you've seen/taken the test, but I have. You can easily be pretty bright and score only about a 30. But smart guys do get better scores. Two 50s have been scored, by the way. But you have to be pretty dense to get below about 15. At least a dozen of the questions are absolute gimme's, so to score a 6, or even a 16, means you really can't think much at all.

03-01-2006, 03:18 PM	#17
The Booger Pro Stature Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Look left. Posts: 664 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	I know some real grade A moron who were excellent football players. Our star RB in high scored a...get ready....4 on the ACT. Guy could read the defense like a pre-school book though. __________________ thebooger@hush.ai

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