Barry Bonds using since '98 - "Game of Shadows"

~~Hacking is a Felony~~ · 03-07-2006, 09:46 PM

Report: Bonds began using steroids, vast array of other drugs, in 1998
March 7, 2006

NEW YORK (AP) -- Barry Bonds used a vast array of performance-enhancing drugs, including steroids and human growth hormone, for at least five seasons beginning in 1998, according to a book written by two San Francisco Chronicle reporters.

An excerpt from "Game of Shadows," which details the San Francisco slugger's extensive doping program, appears in the March 13 issue of Sports Illustrated.

"I won't even look at it. For what? There's no need to," Bonds said Tuesday at Giants camp in Scottsdale, Ariz. The Giants said Bonds would not comment any further.

Bonds, who testified before a California federal grand jury looking into steroid use by top athletes, repeatedly has denied using performance-enhancing drugs. Phone messages left by The Associated Press seeking comment from his attorney and publicist were not immediately returned Tuesday.

Baseball did not ban performance-enhancing drugs until after the 2002 season.

Authors Mark Fainaru-Wada and Lance Williams, who led the newspaper's coverage of the BALCO scandal, recount in remarkable detail the specifics of Bonds' drug regimen, which they write started in 1998 with injections of Winstrol, a powerful steroid also linked to Rafael Palmeiro.

According to the book, Bonds was using two undetectable designer steroids, informally known as the cream and the clear, plus insulin, human growth hormone and other performance enhancers by 2001, when he hit 73 home runs for the Giants to break Mark McGwire's single-season record of 70 set in 1998.

The seven-time NL MVP enters this season with 708 homers, seven shy of passing Babe Ruth and 48 from breaking Hank Aaron's career mark.

"Game of Shadows" is scheduled to be published March 27 by Gotham Books.

BALCO, the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative run by Victor Conte, kept track of Bonds' drug use in detail, with folders and calendars that chronicled everything from schedules and quantities to his testosterone levels. Much of that information was obtained by federal agents when they raided the lab in September 2003.

According to reports in The Chronicle, Bonds testified to the grand jury in late 2003 that he used a clear substance and a cream given to him by his personal trainer, Greg Anderson, who pleaded guilty in the BALCO case last July to steroid distribution and money laundering. Bonds said he didn't know that what he was using was a steroid, the newspaper reported.

In October, Anderson was sentenced to three months in prison and three months in home confinement. Conte was among three other men who also pleaded guilty to their role in supplying steroids to elite athletes.

According to the book, Bonds used several substances in various forms -- by injecting himself with a syringe, taking injections from Anderson, gulping pills, putting liquid drops under his tongue or rubbing cream on his skin.

Bonds became so experienced and well-versed with the regimen that he occasionally overruled Anderson and took control of his own doping schedule, the book says.

Baseball commissioner Bud Selig had not reviewed the material and had no comment, spokesman Rich Levin said. Selig was en route from Milwaukee to Phoenix for the World Baseball Classic.

Bonds, who will turn 42 in July, played in only 14 games last season, all in September, following three knee operations. He showed signs of his old self in his brief return, hitting five homers in 42 at-bats.

He caused a stir before spring training this year with contradicting interviews in February. Bonds told USA Today that his knee bothered him so much he would probably retire after the season, with or without the home run record. Then he told MLB.com that his knee brace felt good enough for him to possibly play 10 more seasons.

Bonds has been working out with the Giants in Scottsdale, but has not played in a spring training game yet.

He is in the final season of his $90 million, five-year contract and will be eligible for free agency after the World Series, meaning his time with the Giants could be up even if he doesn't retire. He said he would have a hard time envisioning playing with another team.

The Chronicle reporters, who based the book on a two-year investigation, included an extensive summary on their sources, including court documents, affidavits filed by BALCO investigators, documents written by federal agents, grand jury testimony, audio recordings and interviews with more than 200 people.

On the Net:

http://www.si.com

DarkFalcon · 03-07-2006, 09:51 PM

WOW! And I really believed him when he said he didn't take steroids.

hed · 03-07-2006, 09:54 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes

Bonds called for the re-starting of cycles when he felt his energy and power start to drop. If Anderson told Bonds he was not due for another cycle, the authors write, Bonds would tell him, "F--- off, I'll do it myself.''

At least he knew what he was doing... :crazy1:

Tren, deca, test, HGH, slin, the clear, the cream... yeah I guess that's how you'd get that gigantic that quick.

**jkeithc82** · 03-07-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

WOW! And I really believed him when he said he didn't take steroids.

Noob!

DarkFalcon · 03-07-2006, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jkeithc82

Noob!

Oh ya right! I suppose now your going to try to convince me Sadam is lying when he's says he didn't gas the Kurds.

:p

**jkeithc82** · 03-07-2006, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Oh ya right! I suppose now your going to try to convince me Sadam is lying when he's says he didn't gas the Kurds.

:p

Or that Pol Pot, "didn't know what was happening?" :p

Pj-Macx · 03-08-2006, 02:06 AM

I am going to keep my mouth shut on this one... cause if I say what is on my mind.. it will probably cause an arguement...

**MurphMan** · 03-08-2006, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

WOW! And I really believed him when he said he didn't take steroids.

I hope you are being sarcastic!

beer20 · 03-08-2006, 02:18 AM

i still like bonds...

im curious when a book on mcgwire will come out though...

DarkFalcon · 03-08-2006, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MurphMan

I hope you are being sarcastic!

Maybe

ZackMurphy · 03-08-2006, 01:24 PM

Well, let's give him the benefit of the doubt. It's just the claims of a book, and a book can say almost anything without verging onto slander.

But of course, I believe it, and it's just so dissappointing. These guys have all the gifts in the world, and it's not enough to just play the damn game. Here's the ONE GUY who didn't need a single thing to help him do all these things, and even he couldn't refuse the tease of bigger, stronger.

And what did he do in 1997, the year before all this alleged activity began? He had a great year. Amazing. Since joining the Giants in '93, he'd been incredible.

And we're all down on baseball players now, but within a few years, it will be all over football and basketball, too.

As a Giants fan, a San Francisco native, and a baseball fan, it's just such a drag to see this happen, and to know it's probably all true.

**b-boy** · 03-08-2006, 01:37 PM

wow you guys are dissapointed and sad???? shit I would have done the same thing and more for 90 million over 5 years.... ha i would have ate a squirrels ass for that much..

ZackMurphy · 03-08-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by b-boy

wow you guys are dissapointed and sad???? shit I would have done the same thing and more for 90 million over 5 years.... ha i would have ate a squirrels ass for that much..

It's dissappointing because he could have gotten that with just a multivitamin. He was the best complete package in the game from 1991 on. The steroids just made a great player bigger, but not better. His stats didn't take a jump from the juice (if it's all true). Sure, he had a 73 homer season, but that was a fluke. From that season on, he's in line with every other season of the last 15. His batting average has improved steadily, his walks have increased steadily - everything for him was a smooth line. No massive juice bump.

beer20 · 03-08-2006, 06:14 PM

this article is just more ammo for the people that already hate on him...
its not going to faze him,hes got other things to worry about right now....

beer20 · 03-08-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ZackMurphy

It's dissappointing because he could have gotten that with just a multivitamin. He was the best complete package in the game from 1991 on. The steroids just made a great player bigger, but not better. His stats didn't take a jump from the juice (if it's all true). Sure, he had a 73 homer season, but that was a fluke. From that season on, he's in line with every other season of the last 15. His batting average has improved steadily, his walks have increased steadily - everything for him was a smooth line. No massive juice bump.

i agree,except for the recovery factor involved with the substances he took.

**MurphMan** · 03-08-2006, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by beer20

i agree,except for the recovery factor involved with the substances he took.

Yeah, jacking one over the wall really taxes your muscles!

beer20 · 03-08-2006, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MurphMan

Yeah, jacking one over the wall really taxes your muscles!

i was thinking it was the 200+ walks a year

**MurphMan** · 03-08-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by beer20

i was thinking it was the 200+ walks a year

Oh, and running from the media!

03-07-2006, 09:46 PM	#1
~~Hacking is a Felony~~ I destroy property Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,105 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Barry Bonds using since '98 - "Game of Shadows" Report: Bonds began using steroids, vast array of other drugs, in 1998 March 7, 2006 NEW YORK (AP) -- Barry Bonds used a vast array of performance-enhancing drugs, including steroids and human growth hormone, for at least five seasons beginning in 1998, according to a book written by two San Francisco Chronicle reporters. An excerpt from "Game of Shadows," which details the San Francisco slugger's extensive doping program, appears in the March 13 issue of Sports Illustrated. "I won't even look at it. For what? There's no need to," Bonds said Tuesday at Giants camp in Scottsdale, Ariz. The Giants said Bonds would not comment any further. Bonds, who testified before a California federal grand jury looking into steroid use by top athletes, repeatedly has denied using performance-enhancing drugs. Phone messages left by The Associated Press seeking comment from his attorney and publicist were not immediately returned Tuesday. Baseball did not ban performance-enhancing drugs until after the 2002 season. Authors Mark Fainaru-Wada and Lance Williams, who led the newspaper's coverage of the BALCO scandal, recount in remarkable detail the specifics of Bonds' drug regimen, which they write started in 1998 with injections of Winstrol, a powerful steroid also linked to Rafael Palmeiro. According to the book, Bonds was using two undetectable designer steroids, informally known as the cream and the clear, plus insulin, human growth hormone and other performance enhancers by 2001, when he hit 73 home runs for the Giants to break Mark McGwire's single-season record of 70 set in 1998. The seven-time NL MVP enters this season with 708 homers, seven shy of passing Babe Ruth and 48 from breaking Hank Aaron's career mark. "Game of Shadows" is scheduled to be published March 27 by Gotham Books. BALCO, the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative run by Victor Conte, kept track of Bonds' drug use in detail, with folders and calendars that chronicled everything from schedules and quantities to his testosterone levels. Much of that information was obtained by federal agents when they raided the lab in September 2003. According to reports in The Chronicle, Bonds testified to the grand jury in late 2003 that he used a clear substance and a cream given to him by his personal trainer, Greg Anderson, who pleaded guilty in the BALCO case last July to steroid distribution and money laundering. Bonds said he didn't know that what he was using was a steroid, the newspaper reported. In October, Anderson was sentenced to three months in prison and three months in home confinement. Conte was among three other men who also pleaded guilty to their role in supplying steroids to elite athletes. According to the book, Bonds used several substances in various forms -- by injecting himself with a syringe, taking injections from Anderson, gulping pills, putting liquid drops under his tongue or rubbing cream on his skin. Bonds became so experienced and well-versed with the regimen that he occasionally overruled Anderson and took control of his own doping schedule, the book says. Baseball commissioner Bud Selig had not reviewed the material and had no comment, spokesman Rich Levin said. Selig was en route from Milwaukee to Phoenix for the World Baseball Classic. Bonds, who will turn 42 in July, played in only 14 games last season, all in September, following three knee operations. He showed signs of his old self in his brief return, hitting five homers in 42 at-bats. He caused a stir before spring training this year with contradicting interviews in February. Bonds told USA Today that his knee bothered him so much he would probably retire after the season, with or without the home run record. Then he told MLB.com that his knee brace felt good enough for him to possibly play 10 more seasons. Bonds has been working out with the Giants in Scottsdale, but has not played in a spring training game yet. He is in the final season of his $90 million, five-year contract and will be eligible for free agency after the World Series, meaning his time with the Giants could be up even if he doesn't retire. He said he would have a hard time envisioning playing with another team. The Chronicle reporters, who based the book on a two-year investigation, included an extensive summary on their sources, including court documents, affidavits filed by BALCO investigators, documents written by federal agents, grand jury testimony, audio recordings and interviews with more than 200 people. On the Net: http://www.si.com

03-07-2006, 09:54 PM	#3
hed Pro Stature Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 396 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 7	http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes Bonds called for the re-starting of cycles when he felt his energy and power start to drop. If Anderson told Bonds he was not due for another cycle, the authors write, Bonds would tell him, "F--- off, I'll do it myself.'' At least he knew what he was doing... :crazy1: Tren, deca, test, HGH, slin, the clear, the cream... yeah I guess that's how you'd get that gigantic that quick. __________________ 5'8" Jan. 2005 - ~280 lbs.. (LipidFX) 01/02/06: 214.5 - 01/31/06: 211.5 (Phera-Plex)02/06/06: 214.0 - 04/03/06: 225.0 (Melting Point)04/10/06: 220.5 - 05/15/06: 207.5 Currently: Trying to maintain what I've got while working 50+ hours a week with a less than optimal diet. LipidFX Log Phera-Plex Log Melting Point/Basic Cuts Log

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03-08-2006, 02:18 AM	#9
beer20 Pro Stature Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bay Area ,CA Posts: 216 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 7	i still like bonds... im curious when a book on mcgwire will come out though... __________________ :friday:

03-08-2006, 06:14 PM	#14
beer20 Pro Stature Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bay Area ,CA Posts: 216 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 7	this article is just more ammo for the people that already hate on him... its not going to faze him,hes got other things to worry about right now.... __________________ :friday:

03-07-2006, 09:51 PM	#2
DarkFalcon I've got a RAGING clue! Join Date: May 2005 Location: dnyc99's cleaning staff Posts: 11,511 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 299	WOW! And I really believed him when he said he didn't take steroids.

03-08-2006, 01:24 PM	#11
ZackMurphy IronMass Donator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 547 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9	Well, let's give him the benefit of the doubt. It's just the claims of a book, and a book can say almost anything without verging onto slander. But of course, I believe it, and it's just so dissappointing. These guys have all the gifts in the world, and it's not enough to just play the damn game. Here's the ONE GUY who didn't need a single thing to help him do all these things, and even he couldn't refuse the tease of bigger, stronger. And what did he do in 1997, the year before all this alleged activity began? He had a great year. Amazing. Since joining the Giants in '93, he'd been incredible. And we're all down on baseball players now, but within a few years, it will be all over football and basketball, too. As a Giants fan, a San Francisco native, and a baseball fan, it's just such a drag to see this happen, and to know it's probably all true.

03-08-2006, 01:37 PM	#12
b-boy Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 563 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 42	wow you guys are dissapointed and sad???? shit I would have done the same thing and more for 90 million over 5 years.... ha i would have ate a squirrels ass for that much..