Halodrol-50

**islandsupps** · 12-09-2005, 10:15 PM

A small amount of Halodrol-50 will be available in 2-4 weeks. It is listed on the site for pre-sale. Please note all sales are final and no refunds or exchanges.

**Sky9** · 12-15-2005, 08:30 PM

Halodrol

From BK:

This Is What Is In Halodrol-50

Rich gave me the 'green light' to reveal what is in it. So I am and then I am done answering questions. Do your own research after this.

Halodrol 50 = 4-chlorodehydromethylandrost-4-ene-3,17b-diol; 50mg per tablet.

Happy now? It's a derivative of Oral Turinabol (the 3 hydroxyl variant).

It is halogenated like the box reads (4-chloro).

It is dehydrogenated (DB's at 1 and 4).

It is polyhydroxylated (hydroxyls at 3 and 17b)

It is methylated (C17a).

The description on the box was DEAD on correct friend, see?

It's effects are very similar and it's side effects very similar to Oral Turinabol.

I clipped this off the net about OT (it is a good comparator to what you can expect from H-50l I did not write this but I did edit some of it) -

Oral-Turinabol is an oral steroid which was developed during the early 1960's.

OT has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low -only a 6- and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of Dianabol is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Oral-Turinabol thus has milligram for milli-gram a lower effect than Dianabol. It is therefore not a steroid that causes a rapid gain in strength, weight, and muscle mass. Rather, the achievable results manifest themselves in a solid muscle gain and, if taken over several weeks, also in a good strength gain. The athlete will certainly not get a puffy look as is the case with Test-osterone, Dianabol, and Anadrol 50. The maximum blood concen-tration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration (also see Dianabol). This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage.

An athlete weighing 200 pounds would take only 4 tablets of 5 mg (20mg/day.) In our experience bodybuilders take 8-10 tablets of 5 mg, that is 40-50 mg/day. Many enthusiastically report good results with this dosage: one builds a solid muscle mass, the strength gain is worthwhile seeing, the water retention is very low, and the estrogen-caused side effects are rare. Not without good reason OT is also popular among powerlifters and weightlifters who appreciate these characteristics.

Due to its characteristics OT is also a suitable steroid both for men and women in competitions. A usually very effective stack for male bodybuilders consists of 50 mg OT/day, 228 mg Parabolan/week, and 150 mg Winstrol Depot/week. Those who have brought their body fat content to a low level by dieting and/or by using fatburning substances (e.g. Clenbuterol, Ephedrine, Salbutamol, Cytomel, Triacana), will find that the above steroid combination will manifest itself in hard, sharply-defined but still dense and full muscles. No enlarged breasts, no estrogen surplus, and no watery, puffy-look-ing muscle system. If OT were available on the U.S. black market for steroids, bodybuilders, powerlifters, and weightlifters would go crazy for this East German anabolic.

OT enjoys a great popularity since it is quickly broken down by the body and the metabolites are excreted relatively quickly through the urine. The often-posed question regarding how many days before a test OT can be taken in order to be "clean" is difficult to answer specifically or in general. We know from a reliable source that athletes who only take OT as a steroid and who, in part, take dosages of 10- 15 tablets/day, have discontinued the com-pound exactly five days before a doping test and tested negative. These indications are supported by the fact that even positive urine analyses have rarely mentioned the names Oral-Turinabol or
chlordehydromethyltestosterone.

The potential side effects of OT usually depend on the dosage level and are gender-specific. in women, depending on their predisposition, the usual virilization symptoms occur and increase when dosages of more than 20 mg per day are taken over a prolonged time. In men the already discussed reduced testosterone production can rarely be avoided. Gynecomastia occurs rarely with OT Since the response of the water and electrolyte household is not overly distinct athletes only rarely report water retention and high blood pressure. Acne, gastrointestinal pain, and uncontrolled aggressive behavior are also the exception rather than the rule with OT An increased libido is reported in most cases by both sexes. Since the substance chlordehydromethyltestosterone is 17-alpha alkylated the manufacturer in its package insert recommends that the liver function be checked regularly since it can be negatively affected by high dosages and the risk of possible liver damage cannot be excluded. Thus OT is also a steroid that can be taken without interruption for long intervals. Studies of male athletes who over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects.

There you have it. It is very similar to OT And if any idiot says it "needs to be converted to be effective" they are talking out there ass. Yeah, a 3-ketone is needed (as is a 17b hydroxyl) to bind to the AR well but because it is a methylated compound and is resistant to metabolization, this is not an issue.

Remember, 1-AD was a 3,17b diol and it worked well. So did 4-AD and Methyl-4AD.

H-50 is a good, clean, effective compound.

I am done posting, this has given me a headache.

BK

**Sky9** · 12-15-2005, 08:31 PM

Pro-Turinabol vs. Oral-Turinabol

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oral Turinabol

From: http://www.steroid.com/ORAL-TURINABOL.phtml

Oral-Turinabol is an oral steroid which was developed during the early 1960's.

OT has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low -only a 6- and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of Dianabol is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Oral-Turinabol thus has milligram for milli-gram a lower effect than Dianabol. It is therefore not a steroid that causes a rapid gain in strength, weight, and muscle mass. Rather, the achievable results manifest themselves in a solid muscle gain and, if taken over several weeks, also in a good strength gain. The athlete will certainly not get a puffy look as is the case with Test-osterone, Dianabol, and Anadrol 50. The maximum blood concen-tration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration (also see Dianabol). This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage.

0.4 x pound (body weight) x days = number of tablets to take overall during the interval of intake
mg / tablet

An athlete weighing 200 pounds would take only 4 tablets of 5 mg (20mg/day.) In our experience bodybuilders take 8-10 tablets of 5 mg, that is 40-50 mg/day. Many enthusiastically report good results with this dosage: one builds a solid muscle mass, the strength gain is worthwhile seeing, the water retention is very low, and the estrogen-caused side effects are rare. Not without good reason OT is also popular among powerlifters and weightlifters who appreciate these characteristics.

Due to its characteristics OT is also a suitable steroid both for men and women in competitions. A usually very effective stack for male bodybuilders consists of 50 mg OT/day, 228 mg Parabolan/week, and 150 mg Winstrol Depot/week. Those who have brought their body fat content to a low level by dieting and/or by using fatburning substances (e.g. Clenbuterol, Ephedrine, Salbutamol, Cytomel, Triacana), will find that the above steroid combination will manifest itself in hard, sharply-defined but still dense and full muscles. No enlarged breasts, no estrogen surplus, and no watery, puffy-look-ing muscle system. If OT were available on the U.S. black market for steroids, bodybuilders, powerlifters, and weightlifters would go crazy for this East German anabolic.

OT enjoys a great popularity since it is quickly broken down by the body and the metabolites are excreted relatively quickly through the urine. The often-posed question regarding how many days before a test OT can be taken in order to be "clean" is difficult to answer specifically or in general. We know from a reli-able source that athletes who only take OT as a steroid and who, in part, take dosages of 10- 15 tablets/day, have discontinued the com-pound exactly five days before a doping test and tested negative. These indications are supported by the fact that even positive urine analyses have rarely mentioned the names Oral-Turinabol or chlordehydromethyl-testosterone.

The potential side effects of OT usually depend on the dosage level and are gender-specific. in women, depending on their predisposi-tion, the usual virilization symptoms occur and increase when dos-ages of more than 20 mg per day are taken over a prolonged time. In men the already discussed reduced testosterone production can rarely be avoided. Gynecomastia occurs rarely with OT Since the response of the water and electrolyte household is not overly dis-tinct athletes only rarely report water retention and high blood pressure. Acne, gastrointestinal pain, and uncontrolled aggressive behavior are also the exception rather than the rule with OT An increased libido is reported in most cases by both sexes. Since the substance chlordehydromethyltestosterone is I 7-alpha alkylated the manufacturer in its package insert recommends that the liver func-tion be checked regularly since it can be negatively affected by high dosages and the risk of possible liver damage cannot be excluded. Thus OT is also a steroid that can be taken without interruption for long intervals. Studies of male athletes who over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects.

Pro-Turinabol

From: http://www.4-men.org/steroids/pro-turinabol.html

Pro Turinabol is a steroid, and is also a prohormone, identical to the East German anabolic steroid called Oral Turinabol (containing 4-chloro-17-methyl-1,4-andostadiene-17-ol-3-one) and Turinabol® (4-chloro-17b-hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one, aka "clostebol"). Pro Turinabol, discontinued in 1974, is still produced in limited quantities by a company in specializing in the manufacture of anabolic steroids for export.
Despite the fact that commercial quantities are difficult to find – Gaspari Nutrition is known as the company selling it – some people are still taking it. Here is an extract we found on one message board about Pro Turinabol: “I have been taking Pro Turinabol for a few days and already my muscles are harder and denser at only 25 Mg a day. The stuff works if your body reacts well to Pro Hormones. I know people whose bodies won't react to any Pro Hormone no matter what they do. It all depends on the individual.” And here is another testimonial from the same message board, also about Pro Turinabol: “I agree. It gives me that "granite" look. I bumped up to 50 mgs a day and gained 8 pounds in a week! I'm sure some of it's water but I can't tell.”
The marketers of Pro Turinabol claim that if taken in reasonable quantities, this prohormone is safe and effective, but because of the US congress ban on all steroids and prohormones, Pro Turinabol will probably be a thing of the past. In October 2004, promoters were advising buyers to make their purchases of the product in the Gaspari Nutrition booth at the Mr. Olympics contest. In fact on one web site, Pro Turinabol was retailing for a certain price but the word “discontinued” was beside it, in red. Pro Turinabol is identical to Oral Turinabol and was being touted as contributing to solid muscle gain. Unlike Dianabol, Turinabol does not give users that puffy look, but again the same web site said that there’s hardly a chance one will find the original Pro Turinabol in any US market.
Pro Turinabol Side-Effects

Like most steroids, Pro Turinabol, if still in use, would have side effects, even if its androgenic component was very low. Side effects would depend on dosage and gender. Acne, gastrointestinal problems and liver damage cannot be excluded. Low doses taken over an indefinite period of time would not generate any serious health risks.
This is why if Pro Turinabol or its twin, Oral Turinabol was still available in the black market today, many athletes, powerbuilders and bodybuilders would take almost every means possible to lay their hands on this East German anabolic steroid.
Drew Voight

**MASSIVE** · 12-15-2005, 08:37 PM

That should clear it up! Good work :nosthumbs

**Sky9** · 12-15-2005, 08:45 PM

I also just discovered this post about Pro-Turinabol and saying that:

"this is not a oral turinabol prohormone. the body cannot dehydrogenate the 1,2 position

if it could then methyltestosterone would be a dianabol prohormrone

and testosterone would be a boldenone prohormone

this product is 4-chloro methyltestosterone"
by ChemicalPA.....AKA Pat Arnold

http://forum.avantlabs.com/index.php?showtopic=13304

**MurphMan** · 12-17-2005, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky9

I also just discovered this post about Pro-Turinabol and saying that:

"this is not a oral turinabol prohormone. the body cannot dehydrogenate the 1,2 position

if it could then methyltestosterone would be a dianabol prohormrone

and testosterone would be a boldenone prohormone

this product is 4-chloro methyltestosterone"
by ChemicalPA.....AKA Pat Arnold

http://forum.avantlabs.com/index.php?showtopic=13304

I thought that was OT. Isn't that the same chemical as BD's oral Turinabol. I have used that and really like it, no water retention (except in the muscles) and very little sides

**Sky9** · 12-18-2005, 07:57 PM

Oral Turinabol is chlordehydromethyltestosterone according to the description above. I think the difference between chlordehydromethyltestosterone and 4-chloro methyltestosterone the dehydrogenation of the molecule somewhere. Im guessing in the 1 and/or 2 position according to Pat Arnold. Its possible they are just the same things with different nomenclature too. I wish I had pictures of all the structures, it would make it much easier. I did find one of oral vs pro turinabol once, but cant find it again. The only difference I saw was in the 1 position the double bonded oxygen to the ring was broken to a single bond and then hydrogenated to make an alcohole and they called that pro-turinabol. I think this will take some more investigating, but if BD is calling it that, maybe they are really making pro-turinabol and not oral turinabol, or maybe they are just using wrong nomenclature. Without a GC and NMR, none of us will probably be for sure about it. End result is if it causes AR binding, protein synthesis will occur and then you get HHYYYUUUUUGGEE!! Haha, no really though, if it works, use it.

**EME** · 12-18-2005, 08:34 PM

Don Catlin's testing of Halodrol showed that it also contained DMT, although the posted article did not say what % was was the analog of Oral Turinabol and what % was DMT.

From the Washington Post article:

.....The supplement, which is sold under the name Halodrol-50, contains a steroid that closely resembles Oral-Turinabol, the principal steroid used to fuel East Germany's secret, systematic sports doping program, according to Don Catlin of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory.

Catlin said it also contains DMT, or madol, a steroid federal authorities say was developed for Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative (BALCO), the California nutritional supplement company at the center of a scheme to provide prominent professional athletes with undetectable performance-enhancing drugs......

Full Story:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...112901636.html

- EME

**Sky9** · 12-19-2005, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EME

Don Catlin's testing of Halodrol showed that it also contained DMT, although the posted article did not say what % was was the analog of Oral Turinabol and what % was DMT.

From the Washington Post article:

.....The supplement, which is sold under the name Halodrol-50, contains a steroid that closely resembles Oral-Turinabol, the principal steroid used to fuel East Germany's secret, systematic sports doping program, according to Don Catlin of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory.

Catlin said it also contains DMT, or madol, a steroid federal authorities say was developed for Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative (BALCO), the California nutritional supplement company at the center of a scheme to provide prominent professional athletes with undetectable performance-enhancing drugs......

Full Story:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...112901636.html

- EME

Very nice EME, I did hear speculation that it contained DMT as well, but did not find anything to post up here. Thanks for the added info. I admit, I love DMT. Im on Emax right now and it rocks. Im up 10+lbs in 3 weeks and I have gained very little fat, maybe a pound or two. I am using raloxifene and ATD in conjunction for estro control / psyudo gyno. My body just needs it while on cycle to keep me from getting itchy, puffy nips. But since I am taking stuff to keep that under control, everything has been smooth sailing. No shrinkage or acne at all. Sex drive is great. I have nothing to report but gains.

Drew1200 · 12-19-2005, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky9

Very nice EME, I did hear speculation that it contained DMT as well, but did not find anything to post up here. Thanks for the added info. I admit, I love DMT. Im on Emax right now and it rocks. Im up 10+lbs in 3 weeks and I have gained very little fat, maybe a pound or two. I am using raloxifene and ATD in conjunction for estro control / psyudo gyno. My body just needs it while on cycle to keep me from getting itchy, puffy nips. But since I am taking stuff to keep that under control, everything has been smooth sailing. No shrinkage or acne at all. Sex drive is great. I have nothing to report but gains.

The DMT is probably just a trace amount. Big Cats opinion: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...3&postcount=67

My guess is the idea of it having even a little DMT is just going to help sales.

12-09-2005, 10:15 PM	#1
islandsupps IronMass Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 202 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 15	Halodrol-50 A small amount of Halodrol-50 will be available in 2-4 weeks. It is listed on the site for pre-sale. Please note all sales are final and no refunds or exchanges. __________________ www.islandsupplements.com islandsupps@sbcglobal.net

12-15-2005, 08:30 PM	#2
Sky9 IronMass Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 134 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Halodrol Halodrol From BK: This Is What Is In Halodrol-50 Rich gave me the 'green light' to reveal what is in it. So I am and then I am done answering questions. Do your own research after this. Halodrol 50 = 4-chlorodehydromethylandrost-4-ene-3,17b-diol; 50mg per tablet. Happy now? It's a derivative of Oral Turinabol (the 3 hydroxyl variant). It is halogenated like the box reads (4-chloro). It is dehydrogenated (DB's at 1 and 4). It is polyhydroxylated (hydroxyls at 3 and 17b) It is methylated (C17a). The description on the box was DEAD on correct friend, see? It's effects are very similar and it's side effects very similar to Oral Turinabol. I clipped this off the net about OT (it is a good comparator to what you can expect from H-50l I did not write this but I did edit some of it) - Oral-Turinabol is an oral steroid which was developed during the early 1960's. OT has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low -only a 6- and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of Dianabol is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Oral-Turinabol thus has milligram for milli-gram a lower effect than Dianabol. It is therefore not a steroid that causes a rapid gain in strength, weight, and muscle mass. Rather, the achievable results manifest themselves in a solid muscle gain and, if taken over several weeks, also in a good strength gain. The athlete will certainly not get a puffy look as is the case with Test-osterone, Dianabol, and Anadrol 50. The maximum blood concen-tration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration (also see Dianabol). This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage. An athlete weighing 200 pounds would take only 4 tablets of 5 mg (20mg/day.) In our experience bodybuilders take 8-10 tablets of 5 mg, that is 40-50 mg/day. Many enthusiastically report good results with this dosage: one builds a solid muscle mass, the strength gain is worthwhile seeing, the water retention is very low, and the estrogen-caused side effects are rare. Not without good reason OT is also popular among powerlifters and weightlifters who appreciate these characteristics. Due to its characteristics OT is also a suitable steroid both for men and women in competitions. A usually very effective stack for male bodybuilders consists of 50 mg OT/day, 228 mg Parabolan/week, and 150 mg Winstrol Depot/week. Those who have brought their body fat content to a low level by dieting and/or by using fatburning substances (e.g. Clenbuterol, Ephedrine, Salbutamol, Cytomel, Triacana), will find that the above steroid combination will manifest itself in hard, sharply-defined but still dense and full muscles. No enlarged breasts, no estrogen surplus, and no watery, puffy-look-ing muscle system. If OT were available on the U.S. black market for steroids, bodybuilders, powerlifters, and weightlifters would go crazy for this East German anabolic. OT enjoys a great popularity since it is quickly broken down by the body and the metabolites are excreted relatively quickly through the urine. The often-posed question regarding how many days before a test OT can be taken in order to be "clean" is difficult to answer specifically or in general. We know from a reliable source that athletes who only take OT as a steroid and who, in part, take dosages of 10- 15 tablets/day, have discontinued the com-pound exactly five days before a doping test and tested negative. These indications are supported by the fact that even positive urine analyses have rarely mentioned the names Oral-Turinabol or chlordehydromethyltestosterone. The potential side effects of OT usually depend on the dosage level and are gender-specific. in women, depending on their predisposition, the usual virilization symptoms occur and increase when dosages of more than 20 mg per day are taken over a prolonged time. In men the already discussed reduced testosterone production can rarely be avoided. Gynecomastia occurs rarely with OT Since the response of the water and electrolyte household is not overly distinct athletes only rarely report water retention and high blood pressure. Acne, gastrointestinal pain, and uncontrolled aggressive behavior are also the exception rather than the rule with OT An increased libido is reported in most cases by both sexes. Since the substance chlordehydromethyltestosterone is 17-alpha alkylated the manufacturer in its package insert recommends that the liver function be checked regularly since it can be negatively affected by high dosages and the risk of possible liver damage cannot be excluded. Thus OT is also a steroid that can be taken without interruption for long intervals. Studies of male athletes who over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects. There you have it. It is very similar to OT And if any idiot says it "needs to be converted to be effective" they are talking out there ass. Yeah, a 3-ketone is needed (as is a 17b hydroxyl) to bind to the AR well but because it is a methylated compound and is resistant to metabolization, this is not an issue. Remember, 1-AD was a 3,17b diol and it worked well. So did 4-AD and Methyl-4AD. H-50 is a good, clean, effective compound. I am done posting, this has given me a headache. BK __________________ www.islandsupplements.com HST and DHEA/ATD http://anabolicminds.com/forum/show...1545#post381545 Review / Compare: X-Lean, Amp, and Venom http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showt...7709#post77709 HST and Superdrol with Pics http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31794 Max-OT and 1AD/4AD http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...766#post5814766 Max-OT and Viraloid http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...000#post6085000

12-15-2005, 08:31 PM	#3
Sky9 IronMass Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 134 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Oral Turinabol vs. Pro Turinabol Pro-Turinabol vs. Oral-Turinabol -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oral Turinabol From: http://www.steroid.com/ORAL-TURINABOL.phtml Oral-Turinabol is an oral steroid which was developed during the early 1960's. OT has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low -only a 6- and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of Dianabol is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Oral-Turinabol thus has milligram for milli-gram a lower effect than Dianabol. It is therefore not a steroid that causes a rapid gain in strength, weight, and muscle mass. Rather, the achievable results manifest themselves in a solid muscle gain and, if taken over several weeks, also in a good strength gain. The athlete will certainly not get a puffy look as is the case with Test-osterone, Dianabol, and Anadrol 50. The maximum blood concen-tration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration (also see Dianabol). This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage. 0.4 x pound (body weight) x days = number of tablets to take overall during the interval of intake mg / tablet An athlete weighing 200 pounds would take only 4 tablets of 5 mg (20mg/day.) In our experience bodybuilders take 8-10 tablets of 5 mg, that is 40-50 mg/day. Many enthusiastically report good results with this dosage: one builds a solid muscle mass, the strength gain is worthwhile seeing, the water retention is very low, and the estrogen-caused side effects are rare. Not without good reason OT is also popular among powerlifters and weightlifters who appreciate these characteristics. Due to its characteristics OT is also a suitable steroid both for men and women in competitions. A usually very effective stack for male bodybuilders consists of 50 mg OT/day, 228 mg Parabolan/week, and 150 mg Winstrol Depot/week. Those who have brought their body fat content to a low level by dieting and/or by using fatburning substances (e.g. Clenbuterol, Ephedrine, Salbutamol, Cytomel, Triacana), will find that the above steroid combination will manifest itself in hard, sharply-defined but still dense and full muscles. No enlarged breasts, no estrogen surplus, and no watery, puffy-look-ing muscle system. If OT were available on the U.S. black market for steroids, bodybuilders, powerlifters, and weightlifters would go crazy for this East German anabolic. OT enjoys a great popularity since it is quickly broken down by the body and the metabolites are excreted relatively quickly through the urine. The often-posed question regarding how many days before a test OT can be taken in order to be "clean" is difficult to answer specifically or in general. We know from a reli-able source that athletes who only take OT as a steroid and who, in part, take dosages of 10- 15 tablets/day, have discontinued the com-pound exactly five days before a doping test and tested negative. These indications are supported by the fact that even positive urine analyses have rarely mentioned the names Oral-Turinabol or chlordehydromethyl-testosterone. The potential side effects of OT usually depend on the dosage level and are gender-specific. in women, depending on their predisposi-tion, the usual virilization symptoms occur and increase when dos-ages of more than 20 mg per day are taken over a prolonged time. In men the already discussed reduced testosterone production can rarely be avoided. Gynecomastia occurs rarely with OT Since the response of the water and electrolyte household is not overly dis-tinct athletes only rarely report water retention and high blood pressure. Acne, gastrointestinal pain, and uncontrolled aggressive behavior are also the exception rather than the rule with OT An increased libido is reported in most cases by both sexes. Since the substance chlordehydromethyltestosterone is I 7-alpha alkylated the manufacturer in its package insert recommends that the liver func-tion be checked regularly since it can be negatively affected by high dosages and the risk of possible liver damage cannot be excluded. Thus OT is also a steroid that can be taken without interruption for long intervals. Studies of male athletes who over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects. Pro-Turinabol From: http://www.4-men.org/steroids/pro-turinabol.html Pro Turinabol is a steroid, and is also a prohormone, identical to the East German anabolic steroid called Oral Turinabol (containing 4-chloro-17-methyl-1,4-andostadiene-17-ol-3-one) and Turinabol® (4-chloro-17b-hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one, aka "clostebol"). Pro Turinabol, discontinued in 1974, is still produced in limited quantities by a company in specializing in the manufacture of anabolic steroids for export. Despite the fact that commercial quantities are difficult to find – Gaspari Nutrition is known as the company selling it – some people are still taking it. Here is an extract we found on one message board about Pro Turinabol: “I have been taking Pro Turinabol for a few days and already my muscles are harder and denser at only 25 Mg a day. The stuff works if your body reacts well to Pro Hormones. I know people whose bodies won't react to any Pro Hormone no matter what they do. It all depends on the individual.” And here is another testimonial from the same message board, also about Pro Turinabol: “I agree. It gives me that "granite" look. I bumped up to 50 mgs a day and gained 8 pounds in a week! I'm sure some of it's water but I can't tell.” The marketers of Pro Turinabol claim that if taken in reasonable quantities, this prohormone is safe and effective, but because of the US congress ban on all steroids and prohormones, Pro Turinabol will probably be a thing of the past. In October 2004, promoters were advising buyers to make their purchases of the product in the Gaspari Nutrition booth at the Mr. Olympics contest. In fact on one web site, Pro Turinabol was retailing for a certain price but the word “discontinued” was beside it, in red. Pro Turinabol is identical to Oral Turinabol and was being touted as contributing to solid muscle gain. Unlike Dianabol, Turinabol does not give users that puffy look, but again the same web site said that there’s hardly a chance one will find the original Pro Turinabol in any US market. Pro Turinabol Side-Effects Like most steroids, Pro Turinabol, if still in use, would have side effects, even if its androgenic component was very low. Side effects would depend on dosage and gender. Acne, gastrointestinal problems and liver damage cannot be excluded. Low doses taken over an indefinite period of time would not generate any serious health risks. This is why if Pro Turinabol or its twin, Oral Turinabol was still available in the black market today, many athletes, powerbuilders and bodybuilders would take almost every means possible to lay their hands on this East German anabolic steroid. Drew Voight __________________ www.islandsupplements.com HST and DHEA/ATD http://anabolicminds.com/forum/show...1545#post381545 Review / Compare: X-Lean, Amp, and Venom http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showt...7709#post77709 HST and Superdrol with Pics http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31794 Max-OT and 1AD/4AD http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...766#post5814766 Max-OT and Viraloid http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...000#post6085000

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12-15-2005, 08:45 PM	#5
Sky9 IronMass Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 134 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Possibly the Truth of Pro-Turinabol I also just discovered this post about Pro-Turinabol and saying that: "this is not a oral turinabol prohormone. the body cannot dehydrogenate the 1,2 position if it could then methyltestosterone would be a dianabol prohormrone and testosterone would be a boldenone prohormone this product is 4-chloro methyltestosterone" by ChemicalPA.....AKA Pat Arnold http://forum.avantlabs.com/index.php?showtopic=13304 __________________ www.islandsupplements.com HST and DHEA/ATD http://anabolicminds.com/forum/show...1545#post381545 Review / Compare: X-Lean, Amp, and Venom http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showt...7709#post77709 HST and Superdrol with Pics http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31794 Max-OT and 1AD/4AD http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...766#post5814766 Max-OT and Viraloid http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...000#post6085000

12-18-2005, 07:57 PM	#7
Sky9 IronMass Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 134 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Oral Turinabol is chlordehydromethyltestosterone according to the description above. I think the difference between chlordehydromethyltestosterone and 4-chloro methyltestosterone the dehydrogenation of the molecule somewhere. Im guessing in the 1 and/or 2 position according to Pat Arnold. Its possible they are just the same things with different nomenclature too. I wish I had pictures of all the structures, it would make it much easier. I did find one of oral vs pro turinabol once, but cant find it again. The only difference I saw was in the 1 position the double bonded oxygen to the ring was broken to a single bond and then hydrogenated to make an alcohole and they called that pro-turinabol. I think this will take some more investigating, but if BD is calling it that, maybe they are really making pro-turinabol and not oral turinabol, or maybe they are just using wrong nomenclature. Without a GC and NMR, none of us will probably be for sure about it. End result is if it causes AR binding, protein synthesis will occur and then you get HHYYYUUUUUGGEE!! Haha, no really though, if it works, use it. __________________ www.islandsupplements.com HST and DHEA/ATD http://anabolicminds.com/forum/show...1545#post381545 Review / Compare: X-Lean, Amp, and Venom http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showt...7709#post77709 HST and Superdrol with Pics http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31794 Max-OT and 1AD/4AD http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...766#post5814766 Max-OT and Viraloid http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...000#post6085000

12-18-2005, 08:34 PM	#8
EME Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,265 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 51	Don Catlin's testing of Halodrol showed that it also contained DMT, although the posted article did not say what % was was the analog of Oral Turinabol and what % was DMT. From the Washington Post article: .....The supplement, which is sold under the name Halodrol-50, contains a steroid that closely resembles Oral-Turinabol, the principal steroid used to fuel East Germany's secret, systematic sports doping program, according to Don Catlin of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory. Catlin said it also contains DMT, or madol, a steroid federal authorities say was developed for Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative (BALCO), the California nutritional supplement company at the center of a scheme to provide prominent professional athletes with undetectable performance-enhancing drugs...... Full Story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...112901636.html - EME __________________ PhysiqueFXonline - Online Nutrition and Training with Michael and Kendra Elias: www.MichaelandKendra.com Team Molecular Nutrition Creative Director FAME Media Group / World Natural Sports Organization Editor-In-Chief FAME Magazine www.FAMEWorldTour.com

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