what is the best fat burner out there? - Page 2

**b-boy** · 12-25-2006, 09:15 PM

ephedrine can still be found many places... i love ECY stack, ephedrine, caffeine, yohimbe hcl. i use it every year precontest, when the fat burning gets serious, during the offseason, i use anything, now its venom hyperdrive.

and yes diet is the most important, but the fat burners help that much more!

**Jayhawkk** · 12-25-2006, 09:19 PM

I need you to move up here in Maryland and provide me with some gym-side ass kicking B-boy

**Grunt76** · 12-25-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawkk

I've used them all and a t-3/venom stack is leathal on fat. Venom alone is even powerful as all hell. That stuff is amazing.

You mean T3 the thyroid hormone, right? Better than T3/clen?

**Jayhawkk** · 12-25-2006, 11:42 PM

Yes sir. One of the main pluses is fat burning without looking like a recovering crack addict

**romanaz** · 12-26-2006, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawkk

Yes sir. One of the main pluses is fat burning without looking like a recovering crack addict

why look when you can FEEL like a crack addict?

barzel · 12-28-2006, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ihateeveryone

I'm using a fat burner made here in Australia which is then onsold to larger supplement companies, rebadged, and sold at twice or triple the price. 2.5ml is the recommended initial dosage - which contains 5460mg guarana in addition to citrus aurantium and white willow bark I believe. That and green tea have given me awesome results in the past. Oh, and diet and some cardio.

is it posibel to get that suplement befor the price is triplet for some one outside australia

RaSP · 12-31-2006, 08:31 PM

Thanks Jayhawk and everyone. When I re-read EME's post I realized that it was an updated version and that he's using Venom now. Sometimes the obvious just passes right by me. I just read the first part and assumed it was one of his older posts.

I've had great results with my ECA Stack and like to stick with something when I find that it works. But now that Primatene and VasoPro have stopped selling it, it's just become a pain to find. Besides, once they started putting it in blister packs it tripled in price. I'm sure all the meth heads were crying over *that* one.

Sounds like Venom is the obvious winner. I already use t-3 with my ECA. When you guys stack t-3 and Venom do you recommend just using recommended (on the package) dosages for both?

Thanks,
*R*

**Jayhawkk** · 12-31-2006, 09:01 PM

I always followed the doses for the venom on the label. I don't think I ever bumped over 75mcg on the t3 and went down to 50mcg because of the fat coming off too fast. I was afraid i was losing muscle as well and didn't want to risk it.

RaSP · 01-02-2007, 03:05 AM

Thanks.

*R*

TravisS · 01-02-2007, 04:58 PM

Hey Jayhawkk where would I get this T3? Is that the name of the drug or is it under a brand name?

**Ikaika** · 01-02-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TravisS

Hey Jayhawkk where would I get this T3? Is that the name of the drug or is it under a brand name?

T3 is a thyroid hormore that is typically only available by prescription from your doctor. The brand name is Cytomel.

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**Jayhawkk** · 01-02-2007, 07:47 PM

^x2 and in that case you could also look for triiodothyronine

TravisS · 01-02-2007, 08:06 PM

Is SAN Nutritions T3 not the same thing?

mild7s · 01-02-2007, 08:10 PM

nope

t3 = real med
san t3 = supplement

**Grunt76** · 01-02-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TravisS

Is SAN Nutritions T3 not the same thing?

There is a WORLD of difference between these 2.

TravisS · 01-03-2007, 03:46 PM

Ok, I am trying to get back in shape. But sadly every time I get to my goal weight I seem to push to hard and find a new way to hurt myself. I have gone from 220 to 180 three times now, but this time I am going to take it slow (walking, light weights, good diet, etc.). i am trying to find a good combo to rid myself of my gut, taking it slow is taking to long to lose the gut. Any suggestions befor I start pushing myself more and inevitably hurt myself.

**Grunt76** · 01-03-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TravisS

Ok, I am trying to get back in shape. But sadly every time I get to my goal weight I seem to push to hard and find a new way to hurt myself. I have gone from 220 to 180 three times now, but this time I am going to take it slow (walking, light weights, good diet, etc.). i am trying to find a good combo to rid myself of my gut, taking it slow is taking to long to lose the gut. Any suggestions befor I start pushing myself more and inevitably hurt myself.

How old are you and how long have you been training, stats, etc?

The more info you post, the easier it will be for us to help you out.

TravisS · 01-03-2007, 07:46 PM

I am 6'-0" 210lbs, 27 years old. I hurt my legs when I was younger so high impact makes my knees and ankles feel very painful. And somewhere along the line i screwed my neck over, still seeing the doc about that one. Not much pain left but it comes back now and again. I had worked out for about two years (23-25) pretty good, but then things started falling apart. I started out at a ladies step class for a little less than two years. (laugh if you want to, but thats amazing cardio) Did weight training on my Bowflex, looked great felt better. Did the step class and weight training three times a week, Monday Wednesday Friday. Tuesdays and Thursdays I would go bike riding, walking, play basketball, or swim. Whatever I could find to keep me busy. Right know I am walking and lifting a small amount of weights, testing my body to see if it can take the stress. As far as a diet, I have never been good at that. So I just slowly cut out the things I know are not good for me, soda, fast food, candy, ect. till I feel I am at a good point of compramise. I want to get back down to 180 with good muscle mass. I will keep pushing myself till I get back to being as active as I once was, just need some motivation and seeing some fat burn off usually does the trick

12-25-2006, 09:19 PM	#32
Jayhawkk Nutraplanet Rep Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,106 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 44	I need you to move up here in Maryland and provide me with some gym-side ass kicking B-boy __________________ Nutraplanet.com for all your supplement needs! ------------------------------ Hangin's too good for 'em! BURNIN'S too good for 'em! They should be ripped into itsy-bitsy little pieces and BURIED ALIVE!

12-25-2006, 11:42 PM	#34
Jayhawkk Nutraplanet Rep Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,106 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 44	Yes sir. One of the main pluses is fat burning without looking like a recovering crack addict __________________ Nutraplanet.com for all your supplement needs! ------------------------------ Hangin's too good for 'em! BURNIN'S too good for 'em! They should be ripped into itsy-bitsy little pieces and BURIED ALIVE!

12-31-2006, 08:31 PM	#37
RaSP Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 66.239.233.115:8080 Posts: 920 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 30	Thanks Jayhawk and everyone. When I re-read EME's post I realized that it was an updated version and that he's using Venom now. Sometimes the obvious just passes right by me. I just read the first part and assumed it was one of his older posts. I've had great results with my ECA Stack and like to stick with something when I find that it works. But now that Primatene and VasoPro have stopped selling it, it's just become a pain to find. Besides, once they started putting it in blister packs it tripled in price. I'm sure all the meth heads were crying over that one. Sounds like Venom is the obvious winner. I already use t-3 with my ECA. When you guys stack t-3 and Venom do you recommend just using recommended (on the package) dosages for both? Thanks, R __________________ ~~~Dumb Animal~~~ I am Thee oMega.. GameDayDog is Thee Alpha.. But GameDayDog Hasn't been here for ever... 6'4" @ 201. Finally got back to 500lb deadlift.

12-31-2006, 09:01 PM	#38
Jayhawkk Nutraplanet Rep Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,106 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 44	I always followed the doses for the venom on the label. I don't think I ever bumped over 75mcg on the t3 and went down to 50mcg because of the fat coming off too fast. I was afraid i was losing muscle as well and didn't want to risk it. __________________ Nutraplanet.com for all your supplement needs! ------------------------------ Hangin's too good for 'em! BURNIN'S too good for 'em! They should be ripped into itsy-bitsy little pieces and BURIED ALIVE!

01-02-2007, 03:05 AM	#39
RaSP Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 66.239.233.115:8080 Posts: 920 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 30	Thanks. R __________________ ~~~Dumb Animal~~~ I am Thee oMega.. GameDayDog is Thee Alpha.. But GameDayDog Hasn't been here for ever... 6'4" @ 201. Finally got back to 500lb deadlift.

12-25-2006, 09:15 PM	#31
b-boy Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 548 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 42	ephedrine can still be found many places... i love ECY stack, ephedrine, caffeine, yohimbe hcl. i use it every year precontest, when the fat burning gets serious, during the offseason, i use anything, now its venom hyperdrive. and yes diet is the most important, but the fat burners help that much more!

01-02-2007, 04:58 PM	#40
TravisS New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Aransas Pass Tx Posts: 18 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Hey Jayhawkk where would I get this T3? Is that the name of the drug or is it under a brand name?

01-02-2007, 07:47 PM	#42
Jayhawkk Nutraplanet Rep Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,106 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 44	^x2 and in that case you could also look for triiodothyronine __________________ Nutraplanet.com for all your supplement needs! ------------------------------ Hangin's too good for 'em! BURNIN'S too good for 'em! They should be ripped into itsy-bitsy little pieces and BURIED ALIVE!

01-02-2007, 08:06 PM	#43
TravisS New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Aransas Pass Tx Posts: 18 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Is SAN Nutritions T3 not the same thing?

01-02-2007, 08:10 PM	#44
mild7s Amateur Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: zoo york Posts: 40 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	nope t3 = real med san t3 = supplement

01-03-2007, 03:46 PM	#46
TravisS New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Aransas Pass Tx Posts: 18 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Ok, I am trying to get back in shape. But sadly every time I get to my goal weight I seem to push to hard and find a new way to hurt myself. I have gone from 220 to 180 three times now, but this time I am going to take it slow (walking, light weights, good diet, etc.). i am trying to find a good combo to rid myself of my gut, taking it slow is taking to long to lose the gut. Any suggestions befor I start pushing myself more and inevitably hurt myself.

01-03-2007, 07:46 PM	#48
TravisS New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Aransas Pass Tx Posts: 18 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	I am 6'-0" 210lbs, 27 years old. I hurt my legs when I was younger so high impact makes my knees and ankles feel very painful. And somewhere along the line i screwed my neck over, still seeing the doc about that one. Not much pain left but it comes back now and again. I had worked out for about two years (23-25) pretty good, but then things started falling apart. I started out at a ladies step class for a little less than two years. (laugh if you want to, but thats amazing cardio) Did weight training on my Bowflex, looked great felt better. Did the step class and weight training three times a week, Monday Wednesday Friday. Tuesdays and Thursdays I would go bike riding, walking, play basketball, or swim. Whatever I could find to keep me busy. Right know I am walking and lifting a small amount of weights, testing my body to see if it can take the stress. As far as a diet, I have never been good at that. So I just slowly cut out the things I know are not good for me, soda, fast food, candy, ect. till I feel I am at a good point of compramise. I want to get back down to 180 with good muscle mass. I will keep pushing myself till I get back to being as active as I once was, just need some motivation and seeing some fat burn off usually does the trick