Originally Posted by A.FreeRadical

Dittos here. Skel, you tried a bulk for what? one week? Your bulk was a friggin' piggout, you were eating pounds of cream cheese in one day, for Chrix, sake! Forget the low carb diets. Get on a balanced clean diet for your bulk. Gain no more than .5 lbs per week (try to match your muscle gains with weight gains, no need to gain a lot of fat).

You have started another thread about "Which diet?" Forget diets. You need to adopt a new lifestyle that will match the body that you want to achieve and maintain. That lifestyle might include one bagel and a little cream cheese once per week, but then you would have to give up other junk food if that is your choice. If you want more bagels and cream cheese, forget this BBing stuff. If you ever get there, you won't be able to stay there anyway if you don't embrace the lifestyle.

My opinion, do a clean bulk for 8 weeks. No more than 250 calories over maintenance. Do some serious muscle building with all of the main compound movement exercises plus some appropriate isolation exercises. Keep your protein (260+ grams per day) evenly spaced over 6 or 7 meals. If you eat a lot of the right vegetables it won't amount to a lot of carbs anyway. Eat one starchy vegetable or grain 2 hours before your workout. Keep the saturated fats in check. Eat berries and nuts for snacks with low fat cottage cheese, plain non fat yogurt or just by the handfull. Drink lots of water. Eat carbs before, during and after your workout. Keep the evening for meat protein and green fibrous vegetables. After 8 weeks you can do a cut. The same routine, just smaller portions and cut out the dairy.

I could go on, but you have heard most of this before.

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Originally Posted by skelooth

It makes you wonder what the hell I'm doing on the fat loss board? lol.

Originally Posted by chlaxman

Personally GD Dog I think you are eating too few cals, but you know what you're doing.

Originally Posted by A.FreeRadical

Dittos here. Skel, you tried a bulk for what? one week? Your bulk was a friggin' piggout, you were eating pounds of cream cheese in one day, for Chrix, sake! Forget the low carb diets. Get on a balanced clean diet for your bulk. Gain no more than .5 lbs per week (try to match your muscle gains with weight gains, no need to gain a lot of fat).

You have started another thread about "Which diet?" Forget diets. You need to adopt a new lifestyle that will match the body that you want to achieve and maintain. That lifestyle might include one bagel and a little cream cheese once per week, but then you would have to give up other junk food if that is your choice. If you want more bagels and cream cheese, forget this BBing stuff. If you ever get there, you won't be able to stay there anyway if you don't embrace the lifestyle.

My opinion, do a clean bulk for 8 weeks. No more than 250 calories over maintenance. Do some serious muscle building with all of the main compound movement exercises plus some appropriate isolation exercises. Keep your protein (260+ grams per day) evenly spaced over 6 or 7 meals. If you eat a lot of the right vegetables it won't amount to a lot of carbs anyway. Eat one starchy vegetable or grain 2 hours before your workout. Keep the saturated fats in check. Eat berries and nuts for snacks with low fat cottage cheese, plain non fat yogurt or just by the handfull. Drink lots of water. Eat carbs before, during and after your workout. Keep the evening for meat protein and green fibrous vegetables. After 8 weeks you can do a cut. The same routine, just smaller portions and cut out the dairy.

I could go on, but you have heard most of this before.

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Originally Posted by chlaxman

Personally GD Dog I think you are eating too few cals, but you know what you're doing.

Originally Posted by EME

Fluff

Originally Posted by EME

won't be part of this diet bro!