Should I Cut Out Sugar?

belbro · 08-07-2006, 07:11 PM

hey i need sum help i weighed 330 at the beginging of july and now 323 but my question is should i cut sugar out my diet sum people tell me yes sum say no what should i do?

how much weight could i lose by may next year?
i lift weight and do cardio

Brent · 08-07-2006, 07:35 PM

How many calories are you eating? You need to cut calories in general. If you are eating a lot of sugar then cut out those calories.

And you can lose 75lbs or more if you want to.

DJohnson · 08-07-2006, 08:09 PM

I'd cut out all sugar for sure. With stuff like Diet soft drinks and Splenda there's no reason you should need to eat sugar as part as your daily plan.

**Trick D** · 08-07-2006, 09:20 PM

Cutting sugar seems to be an easy way for americans to reduce calories. You need to really restrict all calories. Try finding out how many calories you eat in a typical day and try to shave 500-1000 calories off of it. Go to the gym, do cardio and lift some weights.

Brent · 08-08-2006, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DJohnson

I'd cut out all sugar for sure. With stuff like Diet soft drinks and Splenda there's no reason you should need to eat sugar as part as your daily plan.

Shush!!!

My brain says "I want sugar!" So obviously I need it, right?

Ihateeveryone · 08-08-2006, 01:29 AM

Diet Coke and Coke Zero make a huge difference. That, and cardio. I went two weeks watching the diet, and dropped a heap of water weight - as soon as that slowed, I started the cardio. I'm down 16lb in just over three weeks, and the bulk of the weight loss seems to be me pissing, and dropping a bit over two inches from my waist. Bottom line - cut the diet down first, and after steady gains cease, start cardio. Don't hit them both at the same time if you're not used to it, because you drop far too much weight initially.

**Jayhawkk** · 08-08-2006, 02:36 AM

Do a lot of nutrition research so you get the basics out of the way. It isn't quite as simple as just cutting sugars if you're still eating 2 pounds of bacon a day. Not that you do but just using that as an example.

300+ pounds is big so there are several factors to take in if you're also high in body fat.

How old are you
How tall are you
What is your waist size
How much exercise do you get
Give an example of your average diet for a day

Ihateeveryone · 08-08-2006, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawkk

....eating 2 pounds of bacon a day.

Asshole. I've just had my first craving this cut

**Jayhawkk** · 08-08-2006, 08:06 AM

I know man...I was having that craving as I typed it out

**DJSTARER** · 08-08-2006, 01:29 PM

YES.

Unless it is from a water-rich fruit.

Starch is where it is at.

**Peaked_18** · 08-08-2006, 01:35 PM

You'll need sugars for post-workout, you don't have to cut them back all the way, just lower it and replace sugar in other meals with vegetables. Also eat healthier in protein sources, fat sources, and carb sources. Go to t-nation.com and read up on John Berardi.

**powerman2000** · 08-09-2006, 06:18 AM

Sugars are empty calories and should be avoided at all costs if one is attempting to lose lots of bodyfat. I'm speaking of refined sugar.

**powerman2000** · 08-09-2006, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaked_18

You'll need sugars for post-workout, you don't have to cut them back all the way, just lower it and replace sugar in other meals with vegetables. Also eat healthier in protein sources, fat sources, and carb sources. Go to t-nation.com and read up on John Berardi.

In his case I don't think he really needs to consume any simple sugars during pwo nutrition.

**skelooth** · 08-09-2006, 07:18 AM

As someone who has lost approximately 100lbs and has kept it off, I have some very radical advice for people who are starting in a similiar situation i was in.

Cut out all sugar (including fruit, but you can still eat dairy) and cut out all white flour, white rice, and bread (Even whole grain).

Why? Because 99% chance says that you are not only eating too many of these high GI carbs, but you are ADDICTED to them as well. The key to your LONG TERM fat loss will be over coming your addiction to the things that have made you overweight to begin with. Good luck brother. The journey is difficult, possibley the hardest road you will ever take.... but the fruits at the end are bountiful and sweet.

**DJSTARER** · 08-09-2006, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by skelooth

As someone who has lost approximately 100lbs and has kept it off, I have some very radical advice for people who are starting in a similiar situation i was in.

Cut out all sugar (including fruit, but you can still eat dairy) and cut out all white flour, white rice, and bread (Even whole grain).

Why? Because 99% chance says that you are not only eating too many of these high GI carbs, but you are ADDICTED to them as well. The key to your LONG TERM fat loss will be over coming your addiction to the things that have made you overweight to begin with. Good luck brother. The journey is difficult, possibley the hardest road you will ever take.... but the fruits at the end are bountiful and sweet.

radical.

I'll agree, flour is a no-no... but good bread (4:9 or something like it) is definately an option.

I can see cutting out fruit.

White rice is fine. Just nothing with a colorful lable/box, and consume it with a healthy fat and protein.

**Peaked_18** · 08-09-2006, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelooth

As someone who has lost approximately 100lbs and has kept it off, I have some very radical advice for people who are starting in a similiar situation i was in.

Cut out all sugar (including fruit, but you can still eat dairy) and cut out all white flour, white rice, and bread (Even whole grain).

Why? Because 99% chance says that you are not only eating too many of these high GI carbs, but you are ADDICTED to them as well. The key to your LONG TERM fat loss will be over coming your addiction to the things that have made you overweight to begin with. Good luck brother. The journey is difficult, possibley the hardest road you will ever take.... but the fruits at the end are bountiful and sweet.

If you're so stuck on GI carbs, pop a few fish oil caps before a carb meal or something with high GI.

spirit3530 · 08-09-2006, 04:19 PM

sugar is the devil ....especially to the endo folks. There is no need to create an insulin spike unless you are a athlete (not including bb or weight lifting more like a football player) Skel is on the right path since he did it ofcourse.

**DJSTARER** · 08-09-2006, 04:49 PM

08-07-2006, 07:11 PM	#1
belbro New Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 18 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Should I Cut Out Sugar? hey i need sum help i weighed 330 at the beginging of july and now 323 but my question is should i cut sugar out my diet sum people tell me yes sum say no what should i do? how much weight could i lose by may next year? i lift weight and do cardio

08-07-2006, 07:35 PM	#2
Brent Pro Stature Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ND Posts: 367 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	How many calories are you eating? You need to cut calories in general. If you are eating a lot of sugar then cut out those calories. And you can lose 75lbs or more if you want to. __________________ Brent@AnabolicX.com NEW! Anabolic Xtreme Forum!

08-07-2006, 08:09 PM	#3
DJohnson IMPC Contestant Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,014 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 45	I'd cut out all sugar for sure. With stuff like Diet soft drinks and Splenda there's no reason you should need to eat sugar as part as your daily plan. __________________ Age: 21 Height: 5'10.5" Mar, 2001: 135lbs @ ~14% Nov, 2004: 245lbs @ ~40% Feb, 2006: 188lbs @ 20.1% - Hydrostatic Tested Dec, 2006: 168lbs @ 5.5% - 7 Point Caliper Tested BULKING FOR A LONG TIME NOW Long Term Goal: Over 200lbs @ 8%

08-08-2006, 01:29 AM	#6
Ihateeveryone Pro Stature Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Castle of Blakkheim Posts: 752 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	Diet Coke and Coke Zero make a huge difference. That, and cardio. I went two weeks watching the diet, and dropped a heap of water weight - as soon as that slowed, I started the cardio. I'm down 16lb in just over three weeks, and the bulk of the weight loss seems to be me pissing, and dropping a bit over two inches from my waist. Bottom line - cut the diet down first, and after steady gains cease, start cardio. Don't hit them both at the same time if you're not used to it, because you drop far too much weight initially. __________________ Bullshit things: Hippies Astrology Rap music Nu metal Leg presses Communism Nitric Oxide Left wing politics Decaf coffee Fortune cookies Cutting Prudes Wine coolers Non materialism F**k marijuana - legalise steroids!! Bart: Ohhh, this place smells, and somethings dripping on me! Willie: The smell's manure, and the drippin's manure!

08-08-2006, 02:36 AM	#7
Jayhawkk Nutraplanet Rep Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,106 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 44	Do a lot of nutrition research so you get the basics out of the way. It isn't quite as simple as just cutting sugars if you're still eating 2 pounds of bacon a day. Not that you do but just using that as an example. 300+ pounds is big so there are several factors to take in if you're also high in body fat. How old are you How tall are you What is your waist size How much exercise do you get Give an example of your average diet for a day __________________ Nutraplanet.com for all your supplement needs! ------------------------------ Hangin's too good for 'em! BURNIN'S too good for 'em! They should be ripped into itsy-bitsy little pieces and BURIED ALIVE!

08-08-2006, 08:06 AM	#9
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08-08-2006, 01:29 PM	#10
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,049 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 114	YES. Unless it is from a water-rich fruit. Starch is where it is at. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

08-08-2006, 01:35 PM	#11
Peaked_18 a la commode Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,247 Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96	You'll need sugars for post-workout, you don't have to cut them back all the way, just lower it and replace sugar in other meals with vegetables. Also eat healthier in protein sources, fat sources, and carb sources. Go to t-nation.com and read up on John Berardi.

08-09-2006, 06:18 AM	#12
powerman2000 The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,136 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 200	Sugars are empty calories and should be avoided at all costs if one is attempting to lose lots of bodyfat. I'm speaking of refined sugar. __________________ Don't forget to periodize Best BP 507 lbs competitive Best Squat 705 lbs competitive Best DL 650 lbs competitive Guns don't kill people, men who come home early do. My workout log http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6247

08-09-2006, 07:18 AM	#14
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,202 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	As someone who has lost approximately 100lbs and has kept it off, I have some very radical advice for people who are starting in a similiar situation i was in. Cut out all sugar (including fruit, but you can still eat dairy) and cut out all white flour, white rice, and bread (Even whole grain). Why? Because 99% chance says that you are not only eating too many of these high GI carbs, but you are ADDICTED to them as well. The key to your LONG TERM fat loss will be over coming your addiction to the things that have made you overweight to begin with. Good luck brother. The journey is difficult, possibley the hardest road you will ever take.... but the fruits at the end are bountiful and sweet. __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

08-09-2006, 04:19 PM	#17
spirit3530 IMPC Contestant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 493 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 28	sugar is the devil ....especially to the endo folks. There is no need to create an insulin spike unless you are a athlete (not including bb or weight lifting more like a football player) Skel is on the right path since he did it ofcourse. __________________ 2007 NGA Northern States Regional Amatuer Classic Novice Heavyweight Champion We are kings or pawns, a man once said..emperors and fools. The Physique that is developed slowly and naturally will endure longer -John Grimek Unbeaten Champion Serge Nubert wortout review http://www.ironmass.com/exercises/10...t-workout.html Focus xt Log http://www.ironmass.com/sponsored-pr...-focus-xt.html Workout by Layne "Str8flexed" Norton http://www.ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=8020

08-09-2006, 04:49 PM	#18
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,049 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 114