Review my cutting plan

**skelooth** · 05-31-2006, 05:50 PM

Time to switch things up a bit, because... well, I've somehow managed to regress and get fat again.

diet: 2200-2500 calories per day 65/5/30 split (f/c/p, keto), carb up one day a week not to exceed 3500 calories and not to exceed 10% fat. Majority of fat coming from olive oil, fish oil, mayo, eggs, hard cheese, and walnuts.

lifting: i'm thinking upper body lower body...
monday upper, tues lower, thurs upper, fri lower

Cardio: Dance dance revolution, sports, and walks outside ONLY... it's the only way I can stand cardio....
monday, wednes, thurs, sat

sunday completely off.

upper body will include two working sets each of 10-12x3: back, chest, shoulders, triceps, biceps

lower body will include tons of squats, plus 3-4 working sets of calves, hamstrings, obliques, abs.

I'm going to keep an amazing food log using software that I wrote....

DJohnson · 05-31-2006, 06:12 PM

High reps? What is this, a muscle mag?

From personal experience I lost substantial muscle and strength when trying high reps while cutting. I'd recommend you try MAX-OT style lifting if you haven't yet.

I'm not a fan of vegetable oils (as found in mayo) but since I doubt you'll be having meals consisting of mayo it shouldn't be a problem.

So yeah, sounds good. Although you got the ratio mixed up, I think you meant 40/40/20.

**skelooth** · 06-03-2006, 05:46 AM

Here's my motivation.....

My motivation is not what I want.... it's what I don't want......

**skelooth** · 06-03-2006, 06:18 AM

More inspiration and motivation.

Lift · 06-03-2006, 11:53 AM

Woah that is motivating, i'll put it on my fridge!

**skelooth** · 06-03-2006, 02:27 PM

hah, no kidding. Makes me want to go get on the treadmill right now.

DJohnson · 06-03-2006, 05:05 PM

I'd love to hear the story behind how someone came by a picture of a naked fat guy in a little box.

**EME** · 06-03-2006, 06:13 PM

Oh good lord....

This is the complete antithesis of an EME diet and training plan.

Well, you know I always wish you the best of luck brother Skel!

- EME

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelooth

Time to switch things up a bit, because... well, I've somehow managed to regress and get fat again.

diet: 2200-2500 calories per day 65/5/30 split (f/c/p, keto), carb up one day a week not to exceed 3500 calories and not to exceed 10% fat. Majority of fat coming from olive oil, fish oil, mayo, eggs, hard cheese, and walnuts.

lifting: i'm thinking upper body lower body...
monday upper, tues lower, thurs upper, fri lower

Cardio: Dance dance revolution, sports, and walks outside ONLY... it's the only way I can stand cardio....
monday, wednes, thurs, sat

sunday completely off.

upper body will include two working sets each of 10-12x3: back, chest, shoulders, triceps, biceps

lower body will include tons of squats, plus 3-4 working sets of calves, hamstrings, obliques, abs.

I'm going to keep an amazing food log using software that I wrote....

**skelooth** · 06-03-2006, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJohnson

I'd love to hear the story behind how someone came by a picture of a naked fat guy in a little box.

I was very drunk that night

Why did my reply to EME dissappear? ARGH!!!! No wonder people IM me asking why their posts got deleted, this site loves to eat posts at random...

stonecoldtruth · 06-04-2006, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EME

Oh good lord....

This is the complete antithesis of an EME diet and training plan.

Well, you know I always wish you the best of luck brother Skel!

- EME

You not a fan of ketogenic diets I take it?

**skelooth** · 06-04-2006, 02:46 PM

No he is not LOL

I'm sure eating carbs can be a great part of a cutting plan, but eating carbs makes me hungry.... Keto makes you feel full all the time.

**EME** · 06-04-2006, 07:09 PM

Yeah, full of fat!

How many amino acids are in a gram of fat again?

LOL

stonecoldtruth, nope I'm definitely not a fan of Ketogenic diets for bodybuilding.

The only time I EVER want to see a bodybuilder in ketosis is during the last week before a show when we are setting up for a carb load.

Ketogenic diets make you feel ( and look ) FLAT....

But....I was really just giving Skel a friendly hard time. He knows how I feel about keto and I'm just kidding him. I definitely wish him the best of luck with his new diet and routine.

- EME

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelooth

No he is not LOL

I'm sure eating carbs can be a great part of a cutting plan, but eating carbs makes me hungry.... Keto makes you feel full all the time.

**skelooth** · 06-04-2006, 09:10 PM

Yeah, it's fun to argue over nutrition with a personal trainer who ranks #1 on askmen.com

Unfortunately I just have to go with what I feel will work for me right now. The natural appetite suppression of ketosis is VERY helpful for me. And when I'm eating low carb I 'feel' like i'm cutting. Hard to explain, but it's all in my head (like a lot of things hah)

**Peaked_18** · 06-05-2006, 03:38 AM

Whoa man!

Good luck with that, not my kind of style, but whatever floats your boat.

**skelooth** · 06-05-2006, 04:01 AM

I think it's actually going well so far. Today marks 7 days of no carbs, and I'm skipping the first carb up. (The only carbs I eat are salad and broccoli, and trace carbs but trace carbs have been very low).

Typical diet has been
5 egg omelette with cheese for breakfast
tuna with olive oil for lunch
steak salad and olive oil for dinner
crumbled cheese in a salad with olive oil before bed

despite no carbs... my workouts have been fantastic.

stonecoldtruth · 06-05-2006, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelooth

I think it's actually going well so far. Today marks 7 days of no carbs, and I'm skipping the first carb up. (The only carbs I eat are salad and broccoli, and trace carbs but trace carbs have been very low).

Typical diet has been
5 egg omelette with cheese for breakfast
tuna with olive oil for lunch
steak salad and olive oil for dinner
crumbled cheese in a salad with olive oil before bed

despite no carbs... my workouts have been fantastic.

Those salads better have more greens than just lettuce Mr. Man, you need plenty of greens otherwise you no go poop!

To EME - Ketogenic diets, in my opinion (having lost nearly 100lbs so far) are probably the most efficient way FOR ME to lose fat while maintaining existing muscle mass. That being said, I'll be hitting you up come August for a 12 week plan to 'bring me in' for the IMPC. So we shall see how your methods work on me

**powerman2000** · 06-05-2006, 11:52 AM

http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....5-131-training

05-31-2006, 06:12 PM	#2
DJohnson IMPC Contestant Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 964 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 44	High reps? What is this, a muscle mag? From personal experience I lost substantial muscle and strength when trying high reps while cutting. I'd recommend you try MAX-OT style lifting if you haven't yet. I'm not a fan of vegetable oils (as found in mayo) but since I doubt you'll be having meals consisting of mayo it shouldn't be a problem. So yeah, sounds good. Although you got the ratio mixed up, I think you meant 40/40/20. __________________ Age: 21 Height: 5'10.5" Mar, 2001: 135lbs @ ~14% Nov, 2004: 245lbs @ ~40% Feb, 2006: 188lbs @ 20.1% - Hydrostatic Tested Dec, 2006: 168lbs @ 5.5% - 7 Point Caliper Tested BULKING FOR A LONG TIME NOW Long Term Goal: Over 200lbs @ 8%

06-03-2006, 05:46 AM	#3
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 8,041 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 160	Here's my motivation..... My motivation is not what I want.... it's what I don't want...... __________________

06-03-2006, 06:18 AM	#4
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 8,041 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 160	More inspiration and motivation. __________________

06-03-2006, 11:53 AM	#5
Lift I Love IronMass.Com Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 840 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	Woah that is motivating, i'll put it on my fridge! __________________ MrLiftALot@hotmail.com "King Kong Ain't Got Sh*t On Me..."

06-03-2006, 02:27 PM	#6
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 8,041 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 160	hah, no kidding. Makes me want to go get on the treadmill right now. __________________

05-31-2006, 05:50 PM	#1
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 8,041 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 160	Review my cutting plan Time to switch things up a bit, because... well, I've somehow managed to regress and get fat again. diet: 2200-2500 calories per day 65/5/30 split (f/c/p, keto), carb up one day a week not to exceed 3500 calories and not to exceed 10% fat. Majority of fat coming from olive oil, fish oil, mayo, eggs, hard cheese, and walnuts. lifting: i'm thinking upper body lower body... monday upper, tues lower, thurs upper, fri lower Cardio: Dance dance revolution, sports, and walks outside ONLY... it's the only way I can stand cardio.... monday, wednes, thurs, sat sunday completely off. upper body will include two working sets each of 10-12x3: back, chest, shoulders, triceps, biceps lower body will include tons of squats, plus 3-4 working sets of calves, hamstrings, obliques, abs. I'm going to keep an amazing food log using software that I wrote.... __________________

06-03-2006, 05:05 PM	#7
DJohnson IMPC Contestant Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 964 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 44	I'd love to hear the story behind how someone came by a picture of a naked fat guy in a little box. __________________ Age: 21 Height: 5'10.5" Mar, 2001: 135lbs @ ~14% Nov, 2004: 245lbs @ ~40% Feb, 2006: 188lbs @ 20.1% - Hydrostatic Tested Dec, 2006: 168lbs @ 5.5% - 7 Point Caliper Tested BULKING FOR A LONG TIME NOW Long Term Goal: Over 200lbs @ 8%

06-04-2006, 02:46 PM	#11
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 8,041 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 160	No he is not LOL I'm sure eating carbs can be a great part of a cutting plan, but eating carbs makes me hungry.... Keto makes you feel full all the time. __________________

06-04-2006, 09:10 PM	#13
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 8,041 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 160	Yeah, it's fun to argue over nutrition with a personal trainer who ranks #1 on askmen.com Unfortunately I just have to go with what I feel will work for me right now. The natural appetite suppression of ketosis is VERY helpful for me. And when I'm eating low carb I 'feel' like i'm cutting. Hard to explain, but it's all in my head (like a lot of things hah) __________________

06-05-2006, 03:38 AM	#14
Peaked_18 a la commode Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,297 Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96	Whoa man! Good luck with that, not my kind of style, but whatever floats your boat.

06-05-2006, 04:01 AM	#15
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 8,041 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 160	I think it's actually going well so far. Today marks 7 days of no carbs, and I'm skipping the first carb up. (The only carbs I eat are salad and broccoli, and trace carbs but trace carbs have been very low). Typical diet has been 5 egg omelette with cheese for breakfast tuna with olive oil for lunch steak salad and olive oil for dinner crumbled cheese in a salad with olive oil before bed despite no carbs... my workouts have been fantastic. __________________

06-05-2006, 11:52 AM	#17
powerman2000 The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,281 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 199	http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....5-131-training __________________ Don't forget to periodize Best BP 507 lbs competitive Best Squat 705 lbs competitive Best DL 650 lbs competitive Guns don't kill people, men who come home early do. My workout log http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6247

06-05-2006, 02:28 PM	#18