Don't oxidize, get Antioxidants!

**bigpetefox** · 11-03-2006, 06:52 PM

2. If you don't take any antioxidants, you really should start.. Besides just being damn good for you, they absorb free radicals in the bloodstream.. Not to mention (and this is the simple science) your body stores toxins and free radicals in the FAT! As a defense mechanism, fat will not be released to be burned UNLESS there are enough antioxidants to combat the toxins built up.. Some may seem to think otherwise, but anyone who's had a deep tissue massage knows you feel like crap afterwards due to the toxins being forced out into the bloodstream..

We breathe them in, we eat them in most cases.. Toxins are commonplace, and the body has many ways to deal with them.. The liver is the main filter for them, the kidneys keep the blood clean, our intestines draw out nutrients(small) and cast out toxins in bile and bulk (colon).. When trying to get bodyfat to go away, the system goes into a panic.. Our bodys think we're starving, so extra calories stay around the waist.. If there were something in the bloodstream to protect the organs while blood lipids are being released for energy, it would be so much easier..

Antioxidants are natural compounds, or even some amino acids, that have an ability to absorb free radicals to render them inactive before they can cause cellular damage.. Labs usually rate their strength by ORAC, or Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity.. This little test shows the ability for the product to destroy free radicals in certain foods.. Most dark berries and red berries ave the highest ORAC value..

So, what does this mean? The vegetarian weirdo you may know who drinks that gosh-aweful green sludge may be onto something.. I'm not saying to throw lawn shavings in your whey, there are better alternatives..

- Exotic fruits: Acai (ah-sigh-ee), goji (wolfberry), noni, coffeberry, even good ol' blueberries are potent enough to add to your fat-burning arsenal.. The better tasting of the bunch would be blueberries, Acai, and Goji..

- Some companies do actually make tasty greens mixes.. These mixes usually have a high ORAC rating per serving, and some don't taste like dirt. Look for one with a god mix of spinach, brocolli, cauliflower, wheat grass, and alfalfa..

- Don't wanna look like a granola-munchin' sissy? Most of these come in capsules, so no worries of choking on tree clippings.. Most say to take 4 caps a day, which is a good start..

- Don't wanna go back to Earth for antioxidants? You don't have to when we got tea! Green tea is getting plenty of press for its antioxidant properties, and it's good for the metabolism.. Drink plenty, it's low in caffiene and L-theanine tends to even out the buzz if you're sensitive to caffiene.. Not too many obese asians around, no?

- N-Acetyl Cysteine helps boost the livers ability to produce glutathione, another amino that's a very strong antioxidant.. I like this over milk thistle while using methyls since silymarin tends to force the liver to work more..

- R-ala is back.. Not only is it good for your blood sugar, it helps recycle other antioxidants like vitamins c and e.. Also liver protective, and another favorite of mine over milk thistle..

My favorite blend would be :
250-500mg R ala
600mg NAC
500mg Green tea extract with 90% or more EGCG

There are many blends out on the market that work quite well, also.. Most of them have the ACES blend (vitamins a,c,e, selenium) with other herbs and such.. Do a search for a product with the Supercritical extract, it's a Co2 extraction that doesn't destroy the actives making it alot more potent..

Now, as it states in the bold, if you have strong antioxidants in the body while trying to activate lipolysis, the fat and toxins will be released.. The toxins will be absorbed by the antioxidants, and your immune response will be strong enough to keep you from getting sick.. Ever have a feverish feeling while cutting? Those same toxins are beating on your immunities.. Antioxidants can stop that, and strengthening your immune system makes it a more enjoyable experience..

Besides, who says cardio was enjoyable?

BCBulldog · 11-03-2006, 07:01 PM

Thanks bro - You are becoming one of my guru's for info!

**bigpetefox** · 11-03-2006, 07:41 PM

I prefer smart-ass over guru..

BCBulldog · 11-03-2006, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigpetefox

I prefer smart-ass over guru..

Noted...smart-ass

slickjer924 · 11-03-2006, 10:19 PM

great post "smart ass"

**Peaked_18** · 11-03-2006, 10:24 PM

How do you take the NAC?

Cap? Shot? IV?

**NYCmitch25** · 11-03-2006, 11:26 PM

great post

**bigpetefox** · 11-03-2006, 11:50 PM

NAC comes in capsules, or free-form powder..

DJohnson · 11-04-2006, 12:16 AM

Two weeks ago I started bracketing my workouts with antioxidants as mentioned on www.ast-ss.com (The website that does Max-OT). I take Vitamin C, E, and beta carotene pre and post workout.

Might just be pure placebo but I feel great and seem to have more energy in the day.

**bubba g** · 11-04-2006, 12:42 AM

great info pete

**bigpetefox** · 11-04-2006, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJohnson

Two weeks ago I started bracketing my workouts with antioxidants as mentioned on www.ast-ss.com (The website that does Max-OT). I take Vitamin C, E, and beta carotene pre and post workout.

Might just be pure placebo but I feel great and seem to have more energy in the day.

Not placebo, brother.. Free radicals have many different types, the main free radicals that induce fatigue are the ones absorbed, which is why you felt better..

BB2K · 10-27-2007, 07:17 PM

Thanks for this info Mr. Fox. I never knew this! No wonder why i have felt like crap lately. I wonder if drinking green tea is enough? If so, how much? I am not a big pill taker.

**bigpetefox** · 11-07-2007, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB2K

Thanks for this info Mr. Fox. I never knew this! No wonder why i have felt like crap lately. I wonder if drinking green tea is enough? If so, how much? I am not a big pill taker.

As long as it's organic green tea, you should be fine.. There are powder products you can mix in unflavored whey, taste pretty damn good..

I had some by a company called All One, if I had extra I'd send it to ya..

**Ikaika** · 11-07-2007, 03:37 AM

Whats up BPF, long time no see sir. Hows life?

Also, antioxidants are the shit. I <3 my green tea.

11-03-2006, 06:52 PM	#1
bigpetefox The Resident Evil... Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 567 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 28	Don't oxidize, get Antioxidants! 2. If you don't take any antioxidants, you really should start.. Besides just being damn good for you, they absorb free radicals in the bloodstream.. Not to mention (and this is the simple science) your body stores toxins and free radicals in the FAT! As a defense mechanism, fat will not be released to be burned UNLESS there are enough antioxidants to combat the toxins built up.. Some may seem to think otherwise, but anyone who's had a deep tissue massage knows you feel like crap afterwards due to the toxins being forced out into the bloodstream.. We breathe them in, we eat them in most cases.. Toxins are commonplace, and the body has many ways to deal with them.. The liver is the main filter for them, the kidneys keep the blood clean, our intestines draw out nutrients(small) and cast out toxins in bile and bulk (colon).. When trying to get bodyfat to go away, the system goes into a panic.. Our bodys think we're starving, so extra calories stay around the waist.. If there were something in the bloodstream to protect the organs while blood lipids are being released for energy, it would be so much easier.. Antioxidants are natural compounds, or even some amino acids, that have an ability to absorb free radicals to render them inactive before they can cause cellular damage.. Labs usually rate their strength by ORAC, or Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity.. This little test shows the ability for the product to destroy free radicals in certain foods.. Most dark berries and red berries ave the highest ORAC value.. So, what does this mean? The vegetarian weirdo you may know who drinks that gosh-aweful green sludge may be onto something.. I'm not saying to throw lawn shavings in your whey, there are better alternatives.. - Exotic fruits: Acai (ah-sigh-ee), goji (wolfberry), noni, coffeberry, even good ol' blueberries are potent enough to add to your fat-burning arsenal.. The better tasting of the bunch would be blueberries, Acai, and Goji.. - Some companies do actually make tasty greens mixes.. These mixes usually have a high ORAC rating per serving, and some don't taste like dirt. Look for one with a god mix of spinach, brocolli, cauliflower, wheat grass, and alfalfa.. - Don't wanna look like a granola-munchin' sissy? Most of these come in capsules, so no worries of choking on tree clippings.. Most say to take 4 caps a day, which is a good start.. - Don't wanna go back to Earth for antioxidants? You don't have to when we got tea! Green tea is getting plenty of press for its antioxidant properties, and it's good for the metabolism.. Drink plenty, it's low in caffiene and L-theanine tends to even out the buzz if you're sensitive to caffiene.. Not too many obese asians around, no? - N-Acetyl Cysteine helps boost the livers ability to produce glutathione, another amino that's a very strong antioxidant.. I like this over milk thistle while using methyls since silymarin tends to force the liver to work more.. - R-ala is back.. Not only is it good for your blood sugar, it helps recycle other antioxidants like vitamins c and e.. Also liver protective, and another favorite of mine over milk thistle.. My favorite blend would be : 250-500mg R ala 600mg NAC 500mg Green tea extract with 90% or more EGCG There are many blends out on the market that work quite well, also.. Most of them have the ACES blend (vitamins a,c,e, selenium) with other herbs and such.. Do a search for a product with the Supercritical extract, it's a Co2 extraction that doesn't destroy the actives making it alot more potent.. Now, as it states in the bold, if you have strong antioxidants in the body while trying to activate lipolysis, the fat and toxins will be released.. The toxins will be absorbed by the antioxidants, and your immune response will be strong enough to keep you from getting sick.. Ever have a feverish feeling while cutting? Those same toxins are beating on your immunities.. Antioxidants can stop that, and strengthening your immune system makes it a more enjoyable experience.. Besides, who says cardio was enjoyable? __________________ Designer Athlete ActivaTe Xtreme addict

11-03-2006, 07:41 PM	#3
bigpetefox The Resident Evil... Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 567 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 28	I prefer smart-ass over guru.. __________________ Designer Athlete ActivaTe Xtreme addict

11-03-2006, 11:50 PM	#8
bigpetefox The Resident Evil... Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 567 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 28	NAC comes in capsules, or free-form powder.. __________________ Designer Athlete ActivaTe Xtreme addict

11-04-2006, 12:16 AM	#9
DJohnson IMPC Contestant Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 956 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 41	Two weeks ago I started bracketing my workouts with antioxidants as mentioned on www.ast-ss.com (The website that does Max-OT). I take Vitamin C, E, and beta carotene pre and post workout. Might just be pure placebo but I feel great and seem to have more energy in the day. __________________ Age: 21 Height: 5'10.5" Mar, 2001: 135lbs @ ~14% Nov, 2004: 245lbs @ ~40% Feb, 2006: 188lbs @ 20.1% - Hydrostatic Tested Dec, 2006: 168lbs @ 5.5% - 7 Point Caliper Tested BULKING FOR A LONG TIME NOW Long Term Goal: Over 200lbs @ 8%

10-27-2007, 07:17 PM	#12
BB2K IMPC Contestant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 713 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 31	Re: Don't oxidize, get Antioxidants! Thanks for this info Mr. Fox. I never knew this! No wonder why i have felt like crap lately. I wonder if drinking green tea is enough? If so, how much? I am not a big pill taker. __________________ MOD/REP @ IBE www.epistane.com Need that killer diet? Ask Chuck Rudolf! chuckierd@aol.com

11-03-2006, 07:01 PM	#2
BCBulldog IMPC Contestant Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 98 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Thanks bro - You are becoming one of my guru's for info!

11-03-2006, 10:19 PM	#5
slickjer924 New Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Jerz Posts: 14 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	great post "smart ass"

11-03-2006, 10:24 PM	#6
Peaked_18 a la commode Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,297 Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96	How do you take the NAC? Cap? Shot? IV?

11-03-2006, 11:26 PM	#7
NYCmitch25 Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,073 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 46	great post

11-04-2006, 12:42 AM	#10
bubba g Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,163 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 177	great info pete

11-07-2007, 03:37 AM	#14
Ikaika shippin dem stacks Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,650 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 207	Re: Don't oxidize, get Antioxidants! Whats up BPF, long time no see sir. Hows life? Also, antioxidants are the shit. I <3 my green tea. __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

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