do you need a fat burner

JB20 · 03-28-2006, 09:58 PM

to cut?

DJohnson · 03-28-2006, 11:12 PM

marlon · 03-28-2006, 11:33 PM

Diet + Cardio is good.

**DJSTARER** · 03-29-2006, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JB20

to cut?

no. but i understand it helps if you have the means. I've never used one... but i may try in the future.

**NYCmitch25** · 03-29-2006, 12:48 AM

nah.
ive done both with/without. right now i use EC but do but very low dosage. i dont go crazy with EC stack. 5-12mgs a day maybe... moderate cardio + clean diet.

**skelooth** · 03-29-2006, 01:22 AM

Yeah, i've found that most over the counter "fat burners" really do not add much to total weight lost at the end of the day. Your results are really dependent on your diet. I think a lot of times thermogenics end up having a positive placebo effect. Actual effects are debatable.

**Grunt76** · 03-29-2006, 01:29 AM

I'm with skelooth. The best fatburner I ever used before thyroid precursors were ECA & choline, inositol, dl-methionine. Added maybe 15% to total fatloss compared to just training & diet...

DJohnson · 03-29-2006, 02:30 AM

Yeah, I've tried a good amount of the legal fat burners. Other than extra energy I'd say it's safe to say they're pretty useless.

**Grunt76** · 03-29-2006, 02:53 PM

Dicana is legal and at 4-5 caps ED you will see some pretty serious results.

CDB · 03-29-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Grunt76

Dicana is legal and at 4-5 caps ED you will see some pretty serious results.

DNP is semi legal, not for human consuption though, and it will definitely produce results. Might produce death too if used wrong, guess it depends on your risk reward preferences.

**Grunt76** · 03-29-2006, 07:39 PM

Hey it's CDB good to see you here man. This board deserves your presence.

CDB · 03-29-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Grunt76

Hey it's CDB good to see you here man. This board deserves your presence.

No politics section. My contributions will be modest.

**skelooth** · 03-29-2006, 09:26 PM

From what I understand we might be creating one

CDB · 03-29-2006, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by skelooth

From what I understand we might be creating one

:mgfight:

**skelooth** · 03-29-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CDB

:mgfight:

but we all have to play nice

**Grunt76** · 03-29-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skelooth

but we all have to play nice

Worry not, FWIW I vouch for the fact that this guy has brains and knows how to have civil arguments even though I don't always agree with him... :mgfight:

Johnny USA · 03-30-2006, 08:31 PM

Are all the moderators here closet liberals who ban anyone remotely right-wing for little reason like on "other" forums?

**DarkFalcon** · 03-30-2006, 08:34 PM

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Are all the moderators here closet liberals who ban anyone remotely right-wing for little reason like on "other" forums?

lol..I can't speak for the other Commies on the staff but I'm Conservative with a capital C! :p

**skelooth** · 03-30-2006, 11:38 PM

*raises hand* I am damn near a pinko :yes: I'm very far left.

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skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 8,042 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 162	Yeah, i've found that most over the counter "fat burners" really do not add much to total weight lost at the end of the day. Your results are really dependent on your diet. I think a lot of times thermogenics end up having a positive placebo effect. Actual effects are debatable. __________________

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NYCmitch25 Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,088 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 49	nah. ive done both with/without. right now i use EC but do but very low dosage. i dont go crazy with EC stack. 5-12mgs a day maybe... moderate cardio + clean diet.

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