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yazf909 · 09-23-2006, 08:28 PM

i was wondering how many grams in sugar should you have max a day, if your on a cut? i was wondering cuz last night i pigged out on honey of oats cereal each serving 6grm of sugar i ate like 7 servings no milk

DarkFalcon · 09-23-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by yazf909

i was wondering how many grams in sugar should you have max a day, if your on a cut? i was wondering cuz last night i pigged out on honey of oats cereal each serving 6grm of sugar i ate like 7 servings no milk

Ummm...42g of sugar in one sitting is never acceptable never mind the carb overload from a snack like that. If your serious about getting in shape stuff like that has to go.

grammo13 · 09-23-2006, 10:34 PM

I try to have no sugar except 30 grams post workout when I am dropping body fat

**DJSTARER** · 09-23-2006, 11:11 PM

None.

PWO... maybe, but your diet needs to be fundamentally sound before you start considering moderation.

yazf909 · 09-24-2006, 01:40 AM

ty for your answers, but is there a maximum number as far as grams of sugar a day? or should i just keep it a minum till preworkout?

**DJSTARER** · 09-24-2006, 02:03 AM

there is not "magic number." All sugars are different... in a way. Sugar from FIBROUS FRUITS are okay. Apples, for instance, are a great source of carbs, and are almost completely made up of sugar molecules. Lactose is okay in moderation. Things most people don't even consider sugar (processed flour) will act in the same way sugar will within the body. It isn't a matter of "sugar," as much as it is a matter of "processed carbohydrates."

Example:
Which is better? A nice apple (containing 20 grams of sugar) or some pretzels (2 grams of sugar and 18 grams of other carbs) ?

Give me your answer, and i'll give you the right one.

yazf909 · 09-24-2006, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DJSTARER

there is not "magic number." All sugars are different... in a way. Sugar from FIBROUS FRUITS are okay. Apples, for instance, are a great source of carbs, and are almost completely made up of sugar molecules. Lactose is okay in moderation. Things most people don't even consider sugar (processed flour) will act in the same way sugar will within the body. It isn't a matter of "sugar," as much as it is a matter of "processed carbohydrates."

Example:
Which is better? A nice apple (containing 20 grams of sugar) or some pretzels (2 grams of sugar and 18 grams of other carbs) ?

Give me your answer, and i'll give you the right one.

not sure but id take the apple over the pretzels any day, i understand the fruit sugars, i was wondering more like sugars from cereal, candy, etc

**madman911** · 09-24-2006, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by yazf909

not sure but id take the apple over the pretzels any day, i understand the fruit sugars, i was wondering more like sugars from cereal, candy, etc

Ugh... bro, just don't eat candy and sugared cereals. There's no good time to eat a bag of skittles or a bowl of captain crunch... especially when you're cutting. The only time to add sugar to your diet is post-workout and it is best to combine it with BCAA and a source of whole protein to take full advantage of insulin's anabolic effects. Take about 40 grams in the form of either pure dextrose or you can just use gatorade powder. No candy or cereal at all... got it?

**DJSTARER** · 09-24-2006, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DJSTARER

there is not "magic number." All sugars are different... in a way. Sugar from FIBROUS FRUITS are okay. Apples, for instance, are a great source of carbs, and are almost completely made up of sugar molecules. Lactose is okay in moderation. Things most people don't even consider sugar (processed flour) will act in the same way sugar will within the body. It isn't a matter of "sugar," as much as it is a matter of "processed carbohydrates."

Example:
Which is better? A nice apple (containing 20 grams of sugar) or some pretzels (2 grams of sugar and 18 grams of other carbs) ?

Give me your answer, and i'll give you the right one.

what I meant by this was to consider the difference between something "processed" and something natural. There are natural processed sugars, but they are NEVER as bad as something artificially processed. Flour, IMO, is sugar. Apples, IMO, is not.... even though neither statement is in fact truth.

It's not an "allowed to" thing. The more sugar you intake, the poorer your results will be. Hands down.

navarone · 09-25-2006, 04:09 PM

I know the only time that i was recommended to take "sugars" was with my creatine POST workout. And the only reason for the sugar there is like madman said, to spike insulin lvl's to help the creatine process even better.

**madman911** · 09-25-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by navarone

I know the only time that i was recommended to take "sugars" was with my creatine POST workout. And the only reason for the sugar there is like madman said, to spike insulin lvl's to help the creatine process even better.

The insulin spike is beneficial for much more than improved creatine uptake. The binding of insulin to insulin receptors on muscle cells results in the shuttling of glucose and amino acids into the muscle. Actually, insulin is the most anabolic hormone in your body, even moreseo than testosterone. The post-workout insulin spike is critical for maximizing your gains. You just have to be careful because insulin is not only anabolic for muscle tissue, but also for adipose tissue. Post-workout is the only good time for an insulin spike, because this is when nutrients will be rapidly absorbed into your muscles to replenish and repair them.

yazf909 · 09-25-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by madman911

The insulin spike is beneficial for much more than improved creatine uptake. The binding of insulin to insulin receptors on muscle cells results in the shuttling of glucose and amino acids into the muscle. Actually, insulin is the most anabolic hormone in your body, even moreseo than testosterone. The post-workout insulin spike is critical for maximizing your gains. You just have to be careful because insulin is not only anabolic for muscle tissue, but also for adipose tissue. Post-workout is the only good time for an insulin spike, because this is when nutrients will be rapidly absorbed into your muscles to replenish and repair them.

wow first time some one explains insulin and best time to use that i acctually under stand, thanks

navarone · 09-26-2006, 01:42 PM

yea i do apologize madman, i didnt mean the only reason was for creatine uptake, but u explained it best.. just wanted to clarify

09-23-2006, 08:28 PM	#1
yazf909 Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 340 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 8	sugar?>?>>>? i was wondering how many grams in sugar should you have max a day, if your on a cut? i was wondering cuz last night i pigged out on honey of oats cereal each serving 6grm of sugar i ate like 7 servings no milk

09-23-2006, 11:11 PM	#4
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,165 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 116	None. PWO... maybe, but your diet needs to be fundamentally sound before you start considering moderation. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

09-24-2006, 02:03 AM	#6
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,165 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 116	there is not "magic number." All sugars are different... in a way. Sugar from FIBROUS FRUITS are okay. Apples, for instance, are a great source of carbs, and are almost completely made up of sugar molecules. Lactose is okay in moderation. Things most people don't even consider sugar (processed flour) will act in the same way sugar will within the body. It isn't a matter of "sugar," as much as it is a matter of "processed carbohydrates." Example: Which is better? A nice apple (containing 20 grams of sugar) or some pretzels (2 grams of sugar and 18 grams of other carbs) ? Give me your answer, and i'll give you the right one. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

09-25-2006, 04:09 PM	#10
navarone Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 930 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 52	I know the only time that i was recommended to take "sugars" was with my creatine POST workout. And the only reason for the sugar there is like madman said, to spike insulin lvl's to help the creatine process even better. __________________ Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated Stats: Weight: Between 200-205 depending on the day Bench: 265X5 atm. Squat: 360X5 atm.. Higest Ever 435 Deadlift: 420X3 Waist: 34 Arms: 17.5 cold . Pics Finally! http://www.ironmass.com/f16/nav-s-1-...ulk-12947.html

09-26-2006, 01:42 PM	#13
navarone Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 930 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 52	yea i do apologize madman, i didnt mean the only reason was for creatine uptake, but u explained it best.. just wanted to clarify __________________ Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated Stats: Weight: Between 200-205 depending on the day Bench: 265X5 atm. Squat: 360X5 atm.. Higest Ever 435 Deadlift: 420X3 Waist: 34 Arms: 17.5 cold . Pics Finally! http://www.ironmass.com/f16/nav-s-1-...ulk-12947.html

09-23-2006, 10:34 PM	#3
grammo13 Amateur Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 90 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 3	I try to have no sugar except 30 grams post workout when I am dropping body fat

09-24-2006, 01:40 AM	#5
yazf909 Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 340 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 8	ty for your answers, but is there a maximum number as far as grams of sugar a day? or should i just keep it a minum till preworkout?

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