Soy Protein, anyone use it?

AYung · 10-08-2006, 10:49 PM

Who here uses soy protein products or just eat foods with soy protein, like soy beans?

I've read a lot of benifits to them, contrary to the believe that they are a "womans" thing. I'm thinking of getting a soy protein powder in the future.

**DarkFalcon** · 10-08-2006, 10:57 PM

It does have benifits but I wouldn't make it my primary protein source. I have a bit of soy protein in my Kashi Go Lean but that's it.

**DJSTARER** · 10-08-2006, 11:10 PM

i love light soymilk as a snack
tastes great.

**bigDman** · 10-08-2006, 11:11 PM

soy milk is nasty although my dad drinks alot of it

**DarkFalcon** · 10-08-2006, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SoyKing

I'm the chairman of the national bodybuilders soy association and I just want to say that stories of heavy soy use causing increased estrogen production are highly exaggerated.

AYung · 10-08-2006, 11:24 PM

I've read that is just a myth. It's molecular structure is similar to that of estrogen, but is actually not related.

I was thinking of buying soy protein powder and using it, but realised how much more expensive it is than whey. Is there a reason why?

**Jayhawkk** · 10-08-2006, 11:27 PM

Not a myth which is why they don't rec. soy milk for children.

DJohnson · 10-09-2006, 12:13 AM

I've heard that its actually an estrogen mimic and will fill receptors so real estrogen can not act.

Amino acid profile isn't that great though. Consume with wheat because the protein in wheat balances the amino's quite well.

Whey is still king though.

navarone · 10-09-2006, 12:20 AM

Ill just stick to whey.. and maybe some casien b4 bed for that slow all night release

AYung · 10-09-2006, 12:27 AM

Whey and Casein are the kings!

**boyscouT** · 10-09-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

It does have benifits but I wouldn't make it my primary protein source. I have a bit of soy protein in my Kashi Go Lean but that's it.

100% agreed. Soy is great, I just don't make it my primary source.

I LOVE tofu stew

AYung · 10-09-2006, 05:43 PM

Yeah, a little variety doesn't hurt.

**Trick D** · 10-09-2006, 06:54 PM

I use to take it some before the whole isolate movement came in. I have problems with lactose and soy did me well. It tasted too much like nuts though.

**skelooth** · 10-10-2006, 01:31 PM

I eat soynut butter (pb made out of soy nuts) it's delicious and has a lot of protein. I also snack on roasted soy. Soy is the perfect keto food as far as I'm concerned.

I don't eat it for the health benefits, I eat it because it's an easy way to supplement my protein intake alongside the healthy fats, as well as plain tasting good.

navarone · 10-10-2006, 01:42 PM

Well luckly for me i stock overnight in a grocery store... and have full acess to there "natural value" sections

. I get such a variety of protien i love it. But whey and casien are my top sources.

**NYCmitch25** · 10-10-2006, 03:55 PM

ok for a snack but is terrible for a for bblding. i wouldnt make it a main source of protien (anadotal evidence has told us stay away better sources out there) many people say/believe that it has a bad influence on your test level too. i tried it for a while and wasnt happy (vegitarian girlfriend at the time) seemed to be tired too. not so sure about that.soy protien is the fastest absorbing protein out there it's absorbed alomst as quickly as a whey. keep in mind its BV is only 83 compared with whey whichs has 104. BV = biological value the higher, the better the protein (more essential aminos)

several health bennies i often get tofu and veggie soup or soy chips, but i would NEVER but the powder protien of soy.

**skelooth** · 10-10-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! I'm dieing over here HAHAHA

10-08-2006, 10:49 PM	#1
AYung IMPC Contestant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada Posts: 2,279 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 41	Soy Protein, anyone use it? Who here uses soy protein products or just eat foods with soy protein, like soy beans? I've read a lot of benifits to them, contrary to the believe that they are a "womans" thing. I'm thinking of getting a soy protein powder in the future. __________________ Clean Bulking Journal http://www.ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=9546 Max Lifts Bench: 155 x 6 Deadlift: 315 x 6 Squat: 245 x 6 1 Rep Max Lifts Bench: 180 - Tested Deadlift: 365 - Tested Squat: 285 - Estimated TOTAL: 831 @ 156lbs Eddie Guerrero (1967-2005, R.I.P.) You'll always be loved and remembered.

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10-08-2006, 11:24 PM	#6
AYung IMPC Contestant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada Posts: 2,279 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 41	I've read that is just a myth. It's molecular structure is similar to that of estrogen, but is actually not related. I was thinking of buying soy protein powder and using it, but realised how much more expensive it is than whey. Is there a reason why? __________________ Clean Bulking Journal http://www.ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=9546 Max Lifts Bench: 155 x 6 Deadlift: 315 x 6 Squat: 245 x 6 1 Rep Max Lifts Bench: 180 - Tested Deadlift: 365 - Tested Squat: 285 - Estimated TOTAL: 831 @ 156lbs Eddie Guerrero (1967-2005, R.I.P.) You'll always be loved and remembered.

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10-08-2006, 10:57 PM	#2
DarkFalcon I've got a RAGING clue! Join Date: May 2005 Location: dnyc99's cleaning staff Posts: 12,526 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 309	It does have benifits but I wouldn't make it my primary protein source. I have a bit of soy protein in my Kashi Go Lean but that's it.

10-09-2006, 12:13 AM	#8
DJohnson IMPC Contestant Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 964 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 44	I've heard that its actually an estrogen mimic and will fill receptors so real estrogen can not act. Amino acid profile isn't that great though. Consume with wheat because the protein in wheat balances the amino's quite well. Whey is still king though. __________________ Age: 21 Height: 5'10.5" Mar, 2001: 135lbs @ ~14% Nov, 2004: 245lbs @ ~40% Feb, 2006: 188lbs @ 20.1% - Hydrostatic Tested Dec, 2006: 168lbs @ 5.5% - 7 Point Caliper Tested BULKING FOR A LONG TIME NOW Long Term Goal: Over 200lbs @ 8%

10-09-2006, 12:20 AM	#9
navarone Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 931 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 49	Ill just stick to whey.. and maybe some casien b4 bed for that slow all night release __________________ Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated Stats: Weight: Between 200-205 depending on the day Bench: 265X5 atm. Squat: 360X5 atm.. Higest Ever 435 Deadlift: 420X3 Waist: 34 Arms: 17.5 cold . Pics Finally! http://www.ironmass.com/f16/nav-s-1-...ulk-12947.html

10-09-2006, 12:27 AM	#10
AYung IMPC Contestant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada Posts: 2,279 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 41	Whey and Casein are the kings! __________________ Clean Bulking Journal http://www.ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=9546 Max Lifts Bench: 155 x 6 Deadlift: 315 x 6 Squat: 245 x 6 1 Rep Max Lifts Bench: 180 - Tested Deadlift: 365 - Tested Squat: 285 - Estimated TOTAL: 831 @ 156lbs Eddie Guerrero (1967-2005, R.I.P.) You'll always be loved and remembered.

10-09-2006, 05:43 PM	#12
AYung IMPC Contestant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada Posts: 2,279 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 41	Yeah, a little variety doesn't hurt. __________________ Clean Bulking Journal http://www.ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=9546 Max Lifts Bench: 155 x 6 Deadlift: 315 x 6 Squat: 245 x 6 1 Rep Max Lifts Bench: 180 - Tested Deadlift: 365 - Tested Squat: 285 - Estimated TOTAL: 831 @ 156lbs Eddie Guerrero (1967-2005, R.I.P.) You'll always be loved and remembered.

10-10-2006, 01:31 PM	#14
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 8,042 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 162	I eat soynut butter (pb made out of soy nuts) it's delicious and has a lot of protein. I also snack on roasted soy. Soy is the perfect keto food as far as I'm concerned. I don't eat it for the health benefits, I eat it because it's an easy way to supplement my protein intake alongside the healthy fats, as well as plain tasting good. __________________

10-10-2006, 01:42 PM	#15
navarone Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 931 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 49	Well luckly for me i stock overnight in a grocery store... and have full acess to there "natural value" sections. I get such a variety of protien i love it. But whey and casien are my top sources. __________________ Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated Stats: Weight: Between 200-205 depending on the day Bench: 265X5 atm. Squat: 360X5 atm.. Higest Ever 435 Deadlift: 420X3 Waist: 34 Arms: 17.5 cold . Pics Finally! http://www.ironmass.com/f16/nav-s-1-...ulk-12947.html

10-10-2006, 03:55 PM	#16
NYCmitch25 Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,088 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 49	ok for a snack but is terrible for a for bblding. i wouldnt make it a main source of protien (anadotal evidence has told us stay away better sources out there) many people say/believe that it has a bad influence on your test level too. i tried it for a while and wasnt happy (vegitarian girlfriend at the time) seemed to be tired too. not so sure about that.soy protien is the fastest absorbing protein out there it's absorbed alomst as quickly as a whey. keep in mind its BV is only 83 compared with whey whichs has 104. BV = biological value the higher, the better the protein (more essential aminos) several health bennies i often get tofu and veggie soup or soy chips, but i would NEVER but the powder protien of soy.

10-10-2006, 10:28 PM	#18
AYung IMPC Contestant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada Posts: 2,279 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 41