Small Cheat meal?

Zappa · 04-08-2007, 11:45 AM

TB Nutrition Summary For Your Meal

Does that sound alright for a cheat, if you're trying to burn fat/make some gains? I've been consuming a lot of calories a day, so I figure I need something (I don't like natural peanut butter) thatll keep me sane while I'm starting up hardcore dieting.

If that up there sucks, what is a better option?

**NYCmitch25** · 04-08-2007, 12:30 PM

Hey Frank,
The link doent mean much to me. Im not sure if you get the concept of a cheat meal. I would just enjoy something you normally dont eat while your eatting "clean" foods - lean means, no junk food, etc. Cheat meals are not mandatory. If your concsious of fat loss i wouldnt go overboard i.e McDonalds burger but skip the fries. Im not sure what your goals are?

Zappa · 04-08-2007, 02:04 PM

Nevermind. (By the way, my name is Al, I'm just a zappa nut.)

I've had some binging problems, so I figure its better to eat clean for a whole month at the least, to help form some discipline. I need to get better control of my eating habits this time for sure, because I've always screwed up diets with a cheat meal or two after two weeks.

My goal is to acheive fat loss, and do as much as I can (properly) in 20 weeks. Theres a local transformation/get back into shape contest, which I don't expect to win, but I do want to do the best I can on it.

The Brotherhood · 04-08-2007, 07:48 PM

Dont sweat eating "bad" fat sources or High GI carbs a couple of times a week.

Fit what you want to eat into your macros and youll be fine.

BB2K · 04-08-2007, 08:43 PM

cheat meals are fine, just try to keep it to once a week and try not to go crazy with it, if you have several cheat meals regardless of macros you can screw up your goals. Eat clean 6 days a week and enjoy 1 cheat day, i do.

**DJSTARER** · 04-08-2007, 11:07 PM

it depends on you big guy. If you know you can't cheat, then don't. If your body and mind CAN handle it, then feel free. I cheat pretty much constantly... but only because I know my body and mind can handle it.

**Sixpack** · 04-09-2007, 12:21 AM

I wish I could do that D

BB2K · 04-09-2007, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixpack

I wish I could do that D

It must be nice. If I cheat more than once I start holding fat like a mofo.

Zappa · 04-09-2007, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB2K

It must be nice. If I cheat more than once I start holding fat like a mofo.

Some wiseguy said once: 'If it happens once, it probably wont happen again. If it occurs twice in a row, expect to see it a lot more.'

BB2K · 04-09-2007, 05:55 PM

EXACTLY. great point. Now if i can just kick that Oreo cookie habbit.......

**DarkFalcon** · 04-09-2007, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixpack

I wish I could do that D

OMG!! He post's!!

**Sixpack** · 04-10-2007, 01:49 AM

ahh did you miss me hehe

**DJSTARER** · 04-10-2007, 01:59 AM

DJSTARER did

**Sixpack** · 04-10-2007, 02:04 AM

Well I am glad someone did:clapping:

**DarkFalcon** · 04-10-2007, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixpack

ahh did you miss me hehe

Actually ya I did.

You had me at "I"..

**A.FreeRadical** · 04-10-2007, 06:54 AM

There is another option if a cheat meal sets you into a binge mode. That is, a refeed meal once or twice per week. A refeed is a clean meal, just more than you would normally eat. (If a typical meal is 400 calories, perhaps, you have a meal at 600-700 calories.)

The advantage to this, is, you are still eating quality food on program and you have a meal to look forward to every 3 or 4 days.

The most important advantage is, it will help you avoid fat loss plateaus. After dieting for weeks, a hormone that controls our metabolism, leptin, begins to become depleted. When this happens we stall in our fat loss progress. By having refeeds periodically we help our bodies replenish this important hormone and our metabolism continues to burn calories efficiently.

The refeed meals may seem like you will be making progress much slower. For many, it helps to avoid binging and it keeps their metabolism from slowing down. Both of these, binging and a slow metabolism, also make fat loss progress difficult.

*

Psychoholic · 04-10-2007, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

OMG!! He post's!!

No doubt! I haven't seen J in forever.

04-08-2007, 11:45 AM	#1
Zappa New Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Small Cheat meal? TB Nutrition Summary For Your Meal Does that sound alright for a cheat, if you're trying to burn fat/make some gains? I've been consuming a lot of calories a day, so I figure I need something (I don't like natural peanut butter) thatll keep me sane while I'm starting up hardcore dieting. If that up there sucks, what is a better option?

04-08-2007, 12:30 PM	#2
NYCmitch25 Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,099 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 50	Hey Frank, The link doent mean much to me. Im not sure if you get the concept of a cheat meal. I would just enjoy something you normally dont eat while your eatting "clean" foods - lean means, no junk food, etc. Cheat meals are not mandatory. If your concsious of fat loss i wouldnt go overboard i.e McDonalds burger but skip the fries. Im not sure what your goals are? __________________ "I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds." - Rollins

04-08-2007, 08:43 PM	#5
BB2K IMPC Contestant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 805 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 37	cheat meals are fine, just try to keep it to once a week and try not to go crazy with it, if you have several cheat meals regardless of macros you can screw up your goals. Eat clean 6 days a week and enjoy 1 cheat day, i do. __________________ Future 2008 IMPC Mens Open Champion! 2007 IMPC Mens Open- 2nd Place MOD/REP @ IBE www.epistane.com " I am not going bald, I am just getting more head "

04-08-2007, 11:07 PM	#6
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,048 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 114	it depends on you big guy. If you know you can't cheat, then don't. If your body and mind CAN handle it, then feel free. I cheat pretty much constantly... but only because I know my body and mind can handle it. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

04-09-2007, 12:21 AM	#7
Sixpack Optimum Sponsored athlete Join Date: May 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 867 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 15	I wish I could do that D __________________ ["Tough Times Don't Last But Tough People Do" My Pops RIP http://www.optimumnutrition.com/ "Fueling your desire for success" www.rippedacadamy.com Mod-massmonsterz.com ISSA certified

04-08-2007, 02:04 PM	#3
Zappa New Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Nevermind. (By the way, my name is Al, I'm just a zappa nut.) I've had some binging problems, so I figure its better to eat clean for a whole month at the least, to help form some discipline. I need to get better control of my eating habits this time for sure, because I've always screwed up diets with a cheat meal or two after two weeks. My goal is to acheive fat loss, and do as much as I can (properly) in 20 weeks. Theres a local transformation/get back into shape contest, which I don't expect to win, but I do want to do the best I can on it.

04-08-2007, 07:48 PM	#4
The Brotherhood IMPC Contestant Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 55 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 2	Dont sweat eating "bad" fat sources or High GI carbs a couple of times a week. Fit what you want to eat into your macros and youll be fine.

04-09-2007, 05:55 PM	#10
BB2K IMPC Contestant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 805 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 37	EXACTLY. great point. Now if i can just kick that Oreo cookie habbit....... __________________ Future 2008 IMPC Mens Open Champion! 2007 IMPC Mens Open- 2nd Place MOD/REP @ IBE www.epistane.com " I am not going bald, I am just getting more head "

04-10-2007, 01:49 AM	#12
Sixpack Optimum Sponsored athlete Join Date: May 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 867 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 15	ahh did you miss me hehe __________________ ["Tough Times Don't Last But Tough People Do" My Pops RIP http://www.optimumnutrition.com/ "Fueling your desire for success" www.rippedacadamy.com Mod-massmonsterz.com ISSA certified

04-10-2007, 01:59 AM	#13
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,048 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 114	DJSTARER did __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

04-10-2007, 02:04 AM	#14
Sixpack Optimum Sponsored athlete Join Date: May 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 867 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 15	Well I am glad someone did:clapping: __________________ ["Tough Times Don't Last But Tough People Do" My Pops RIP http://www.optimumnutrition.com/ "Fueling your desire for success" www.rippedacadamy.com Mod-massmonsterz.com ISSA certified

04-10-2007, 06:54 AM	#16
A.FreeRadical the Epicurean Bodybuilder Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,245 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 58	There is another option if a cheat meal sets you into a binge mode. That is, a refeed meal once or twice per week. A refeed is a clean meal, just more than you would normally eat. (If a typical meal is 400 calories, perhaps, you have a meal at 600-700 calories.) The advantage to this, is, you are still eating quality food on program and you have a meal to look forward to every 3 or 4 days. The most important advantage is, it will help you avoid fat loss plateaus. After dieting for weeks, a hormone that controls our metabolism, leptin, begins to become depleted. When this happens we stall in our fat loss progress. By having refeeds periodically we help our bodies replenish this important hormone and our metabolism continues to burn calories efficiently. The refeed meals may seem like you will be making progress much slower. For many, it helps to avoid binging and it keeps their metabolism from slowing down. Both of these, binging and a slow metabolism, also make fat loss progress difficult. * __________________ "Is it going to be the red pill or the blue pill, Neo? The red pill will answer the question 'What is the Matrix?' Choose carefully. Remember, all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more." Ron Paul for President, 2008 A.FreeRadical ...the Epicurean bodybuilder Height: 5'9", Age: 62, My last high on 2/1/2006 was 196 lbs. My last low on 8/08/2006 was 167.5 lbs. Cutting until I am lean Starting weight: 190 lbs. bodyfat: 19.7% November 27th: 183 lbs. bodyfat: 18.3% bodyfat Goal Weight: 176 lbs with no more than 10% bodyfat My recipe collection

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