Need some diet help

emc2 · 07-20-2007, 05:34 PM

Hi,

im 6ft 3 (or maybe 6'4 dunno) and about 180lbs, ive been trying to gain weight over the last couple of months,

i changed my diet from like having 2 big meals a day to having 4 smaller ones + 2cups of protein twice a day. usually having chicken and pasta, or rice etc

me in april:
http://sixpop.com/images/file/76445763.jpg

me a bit over a month ago
http://www.sixpop.com/images/file/30872343.jpg

i jus dont seem to be putting any weight on, is my metabolism too fast or something. i wish i was like jus 6ft lol

must admin i have had any protein shakes for the last 2weeks because of flooding in the UK my delivery got screwed up, its coming next tues now x:

**Succio** · 07-20-2007, 10:41 PM

bump up to 6-8 meals.

so how many cals and c/f/p were you getting?

emc2 · 07-20-2007, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Succio

bump up to 6-8 meals.

so how many cals and c/f/p were you getting?

i can't really bump up the meals, chicken aint cheap and im a student lol any other good 'bulking' foods?

"so how many cals and c/f/p were you getting?"

ive no idea

britishbulld0g · 07-23-2007, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emc2

i can't really bump up the meals, chicken aint cheap and im a student lol any other good 'bulking' foods?

"so how many cals and c/f/p were you getting?"

ive no idea

Tuna
Milk
Eggs
Porridge Oats
Lean Beef Mince/Steak (shop around; Asda do some good deals)
All Natural Peanut Butter (not the regular commercial ones you see in most shops)
Buy bags of frozen chicken breasts and green veggies (you can usually get them at a reasonable price)
Wholewheat Pasta and/or Brown Rice
Olive Oil and or Cod Liver/Misc Fish oils

I'm hoping that since you're a student, you're not spending too much money on beer

cals is how many calories you are taking in each day in the food you eat and c/p/f refers to carbohydrates/protein/fat in a ratio form.

emc2 · 07-23-2007, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britishbulld0g

Tuna
Milk
Eggs
Porridge Oats
Lean Beef Mince/Steak (shop around; Asda do some good deals)
All Natural Peanut Butter (not the regular commercial ones you see in most shops)
Buy bags of frozen chicken breasts and green veggies (you can usually get them at a reasonable price)
Wholewheat Pasta and/or Brown Rice
Olive Oil and or Cod Liver/Misc Fish oils

I'm hoping that since you're a student, you're not spending too much money on beer

cals is how many calories you are taking in each day in the food you eat and c/p/f refers to carbohydrates/protein/fat in a ratio form.

Hey thanks, that'll come in usefull in september when i move out

Ill try workout my daily cals, but i dont measure pasta for instance, i just put a similar amount in each time (by eye)

**DJSTARER** · 07-23-2007, 09:05 PM

i know supplements "SEEM" expensive, but in reality, whey protein is the cheapest form of protein per gram... especially after you consider the ranking on the BV. The best way for you to gain weight is to eat a ton of kcals. Because ur metabolism is so high, you are allowed to eat some of the CHEAPER cuts of meat. Ground chuck and 70% lean meats, which might normally be off limits to most, are eatable in your situation. These are WAY cheaper than chicken breast. Pork and beef are much cheaper than poultry. Also, large bags of parboiled rice do not cost much at all. It is calorie dense, easy to make, and fibrous. All you need to do is eat 3/4 cup (dry) of rice + 8ounces of 70% lean beef 5X daily.... that should be about 750kcals/meal... leaving you about 4100 kcals total. Easy ay?

emc2 · 07-23-2007, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJSTARER

i know supplements "SEEM" expensive, but in reality, whey protein is the cheapest form of protein per gram... especially after you consider the ranking on the BV. The best way for you to gain weight is to eat a ton of kcals. Because ur metabolism is so high, you are allowed to eat some of the CHEAPER cuts of meat. Ground chuck and 70% lean meats, which might normally be off limits to most, are eatable in your situation. These are WAY cheaper than chicken breast. Pork and beef are much cheaper than poultry. Also, large bags of parboiled rice do not cost much at all. It is calorie dense, easy to make, and fibrous. All you need to do is eat 3/4 cup (dry) of rice + 8ounces of 70% lean beef 5X daily.... that should be about 750kcals/meal... leaving you about 4100 kcals total. Easy ay?

I agree about the protein by the way, i've been using "ON 100% gold standard whey", the cookies and cream tastes like crap, i ordered strawberry and thats coming 2moro ^_^

What exactly is ground chuck i've never heard of that, and i see americans saying 3/4 cup etc as a measurment, we don't use that in the UK so what's equivilent to 1 cup in ml or something?

And you're right about the high metabolism, i used to eat like 3 McDonalds + crisps and other crap / day and not gain any weight O_O.

Anyway I'll try follow everyones advice and post pictures in a couple of months

edit: "especially after you consider the ranking on the BV" what's BV? and also what are kcals?

emc2 · 07-24-2007, 09:44 PM

Ok, ive tried counting everything i have eated today as accurately as i can, so here goes:

Meal 1: 150g chicken, 120g Couscous, 1glass milk

Meal 2: 170g chicken, 120g Couscous, 1glass milk

> in between: 3 x toast & jam

Meal 3: 110g chicken, 120g Couscous, 108g Macaroni Cheese, 1 glass milk

Meal 4: 1 can tuna (130g), 120g Couscous, 1glass milk

Meal 5: 2 scoops of ON 100% whey protien (not had this meal yet)

I added the cals upto 2833cals(+ whatever the whey protein is), is that enough? I feel pretty stuffed.

note that i dont usually have that much couscous its normally rice or pasta

edit: more info (from packets lol)

100g Couscous = 365kcal, 15.1g protein, carb 73g, fat 1g, fibre 0.8g.
100g chicken= fat 2.9g, protein 23.6g, cal 121
108g macaroni cheese= protein 19.8g, carb 75g, fat 5.4g (2.7 saturates)

emc2 · 07-25-2007, 08:26 PM

any1?...

satyricon · 07-27-2007, 04:42 PM

more milk my friend more milk! peanut butter( natural of course) olive oil in your protien shakes, eat as much meat as you can kill or buy. if you want to bulk up you cant really worry about eating like a pre contest bodybuilder. us skinny guys need to eat big and often to gain any real weight.

emc2 · 07-27-2007, 09:30 PM

how does the meals i posted a few posts up look? that's like my average intake (very recently) and i hope to continue it

**DJSTARER** · 07-28-2007, 12:55 PM

kcals= calories
BV= biological value: a scale from 1-100 ranking proteins on quality of profile and ability to be absorbed in the body. Whey=110, egg=100, animal meats=85, casein= 78, soy=68 etc.

As for the diet, thats looks like a weightloss diet to me. You have to understand that many of us on this sight are eating in excess of 3500 or 4000calories/day. During the in season (and i'm NOT a hardgainer) I eat roughly 4500 kcals. You should aim for At LEAST 3700-4200. If want to get big, u have to EAT big. The diet u posted is good... just add a few burgers.

Dizzle · 07-28-2007, 09:10 PM

Some things this summer that's been working great for me is a lot of peanut butter and a tonn of cottage cheese. I go through jars of those like crazy. They're also a great way to get cals/protein quickly, with hardly filling you up. I also take Muscle milk and whey. Good luck man.

07-20-2007, 05:34 PM	#1
emc2 Amateur Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 41 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Need some diet help Hi, im 6ft 3 (or maybe 6'4 dunno) and about 180lbs, ive been trying to gain weight over the last couple of months, i changed my diet from like having 2 big meals a day to having 4 smaller ones + 2cups of protein twice a day. usually having chicken and pasta, or rice etc me in april: http://sixpop.com/images/file/76445763.jpg me a bit over a month ago http://www.sixpop.com/images/file/30872343.jpg i jus dont seem to be putting any weight on, is my metabolism too fast or something. i wish i was like jus 6ft lol must admin i have had any protein shakes for the last 2weeks because of flooding in the UK my delivery got screwed up, its coming next tues now x: __________________ Click the sig to watch south park online free! :p

07-20-2007, 10:41 PM	#2
Succio IronMass Sponsor Join Date: May 2006 Location: beastville Posts: 1,938 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 95	Re: Need some help bump up to 6-8 meals. so how many cals and c/f/p were you getting? __________________ SUPPLEMENTS.NET REP

07-23-2007, 09:05 PM	#6
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 3,979 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 113	Re: Need some help i know supplements "SEEM" expensive, but in reality, whey protein is the cheapest form of protein per gram... especially after you consider the ranking on the BV. The best way for you to gain weight is to eat a ton of kcals. Because ur metabolism is so high, you are allowed to eat some of the CHEAPER cuts of meat. Ground chuck and 70% lean meats, which might normally be off limits to most, are eatable in your situation. These are WAY cheaper than chicken breast. Pork and beef are much cheaper than poultry. Also, large bags of parboiled rice do not cost much at all. It is calorie dense, easy to make, and fibrous. All you need to do is eat 3/4 cup (dry) of rice + 8ounces of 70% lean beef 5X daily.... that should be about 750kcals/meal... leaving you about 4100 kcals total. Easy ay? __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

07-24-2007, 09:44 PM	#8
emc2 Amateur Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 41 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Re: Need some help Ok, ive tried counting everything i have eated today as accurately as i can, so here goes: Meal 1: 150g chicken, 120g Couscous, 1glass milk Meal 2: 170g chicken, 120g Couscous, 1glass milk > in between: 3 x toast & jam Meal 3: 110g chicken, 120g Couscous, 108g Macaroni Cheese, 1 glass milk Meal 4: 1 can tuna (130g), 120g Couscous, 1glass milk Meal 5: 2 scoops of ON 100% whey protien (not had this meal yet) I added the cals upto 2833cals(+ whatever the whey protein is), is that enough? I feel pretty stuffed. note that i dont usually have that much couscous its normally rice or pasta edit: more info (from packets lol) 100g Couscous = 365kcal, 15.1g protein, carb 73g, fat 1g, fibre 0.8g. 100g chicken= fat 2.9g, protein 23.6g, cal 121 108g macaroni cheese= protein 19.8g, carb 75g, fat 5.4g (2.7 saturates) __________________ Click the sig to watch south park online free! :p

07-25-2007, 08:26 PM	#9
emc2 Amateur Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 41 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Re: Need some help any1?... __________________ Click the sig to watch south park online free! :p

07-27-2007, 04:42 PM	#10
satyricon Amateur Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 34 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Re: Need some help more milk my friend more milk! peanut butter( natural of course) olive oil in your protien shakes, eat as much meat as you can kill or buy. if you want to bulk up you cant really worry about eating like a pre contest bodybuilder. us skinny guys need to eat big and often to gain any real weight.

07-27-2007, 09:30 PM	#11
emc2 Amateur Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 41 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Re: Need some help how does the meals i posted a few posts up look? that's like my average intake (very recently) and i hope to continue it __________________ Click the sig to watch south park online free! :p

07-28-2007, 12:55 PM	#12
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 3,979 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 113	Re: Need some diet help kcals= calories BV= biological value: a scale from 1-100 ranking proteins on quality of profile and ability to be absorbed in the body. Whey=110, egg=100, animal meats=85, casein= 78, soy=68 etc. As for the diet, thats looks like a weightloss diet to me. You have to understand that many of us on this sight are eating in excess of 3500 or 4000calories/day. During the in season (and i'm NOT a hardgainer) I eat roughly 4500 kcals. You should aim for At LEAST 3700-4200. If want to get big, u have to EAT big. The diet u posted is good... just add a few burgers. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

07-28-2007, 09:10 PM	#13
Dizzle Amateur Join Date: May 2007 Location: guttaville Posts: 27 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Re: Need some diet help Some things this summer that's been working great for me is a lot of peanut butter and a tonn of cottage cheese. I go through jars of those like crazy. They're also a great way to get cals/protein quickly, with hardly filling you up. I also take Muscle milk and whey. Good luck man.

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