LOL! You can buy "Low GI Peanut Butter" LOLOL!

**skelooth** · 04-02-2006, 07:44 PM

Tell me if you find the absolute irony in this marketing gimmick

**DJSTARER** · 04-02-2006, 09:27 PM

irony... maybe.

fats are low slow digesting regarless. Stupid concept.

What ReALLY gets me is the "Low Fat" peanut butter. That REALLY doesn't make sense.

**skelooth** · 04-02-2006, 09:43 PM

yeah, i've seen that too.

There's low fat peanut butter (which has ridiculous amounts of sugar and still has trans fat)

There's low carb peanut butter (which is the same thing as skippy only 3-5g of it is 'sugar alcohols')

Then there's Low GI peanut butter (LOLOLOL!) That's like marketing fat free sugar.

**Sixpack** · 04-02-2006, 09:57 PM

Low carb PB then they sub in maltodextrin for it lol

Master Of Puppets · 04-02-2006, 10:54 PM

**DJSTARER** · 04-02-2006, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelooth

That's like marketing fat free sugar.

exactly

**NYCmitch25** · 04-03-2006, 12:00 AM

**NYCmitch25** · 04-03-2006, 12:01 AM

speaking of PB ive been using this...anyone else?

Smart Balance® Omega Peanut Butter

'Contains 1000 mg Omega-3’s per serving with great peanut taste. No hydrogenated oil; no trans fatty acid and no refined sugar. Made from premium, deep-roasted peanuts for extra toasted flavor. All natural but doesn’t need refrigeration."

**skelooth** · 04-03-2006, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYCmitch25

speaking of PB ive been using this...anyone else?

Smart Balance® Omega Peanut Butter

'Contains 1000 mg Omega-3’s per serving with great peanut taste. No hydrogenated oil; no trans fatty acid and no refined sugar. Made from premium, deep-roasted peanuts for extra toasted flavor. All natural but doesn’t need refrigeration."

I was going to get some until i saw it has sugar in it

**NYCmitch25** · 04-03-2006, 12:02 AM

ah your right :boink: ... i guess if you can live with 1g

**skelooth** · 04-03-2006, 12:04 AM

i have their cooking oil though. too bad it tastes like absolute horse *$(*#

**NYCmitch25** · 04-03-2006, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelooth

i have their cooking oil though. too bad it tastes like absolute horse *$(*#

bwhahahahahaha

Master Of Puppets · 04-03-2006, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelooth

i have their cooking oil though. too bad it tastes like absolute horse *$(*#

I love that stuff man.

MOP

**skelooth** · 04-03-2006, 12:13 AM

palm oils are supposed to be pretty bad for you too (i think??)

marlon · 04-03-2006, 12:33 AM

Hydrogenated Vegetable Oils.

LFL · 04-03-2006, 05:11 AM

The irony is GI is such a non issue really. Other than for diabetics, research shows on a hypocaloric diet, no difference in weight loss between the two groups.

J Nutr. 2005 Oct;135(10):2387-91. Related Articles, Links

Reduced glycemic index and glycemic load diets do not increase the effects of energy restriction on weight loss and insulin sensitivity in obese men and women.

Raatz SK, Torkelson CJ, Redmon JB, Reck KP, Kwong CA, Swanson JE, Liu C, Thomas W, Bantle JP.

General Clinical Research Center, Department of Medicine, School of Public Health, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN, USA.
1. raatz@med.umn.edu

Reducing the dietary glycemic load and the glycemic index was proposed as a novel approach to weight reduction. A parallel-design, randomized 12-wk controlled feeding trial with a 24-wk follow-up phase was conducted to test the hypothesis that a hypocaloric diet designed to reduce the glycemic load and the glycemic index would result in greater sustained weight loss than other hypocaloric diets. Obese subjects (n = 29) were randomly assigned to 1 of 3 diets providing 3138 kJ less than estimated energy needs: high glycemic index (HGI), low glycemic index (LGI), or high fat (HF). For the first 12 wk, all food was provided to subjects (feeding phase). Subjects (n = 22) were instructed to follow the assigned diet for 24 additional weeks (free-living phase). Total body weight was obtained and body composition was assessed by skinfold measurements. Insulin sensitivity was assessed by the homeostasis model (HOMA). At 12 wk, weight changes from baseline were significant in all groups but not different among groups (-9.3 +/- 1.3 kg for the HGI diet, -9.9 +/- 1.4 kg for the LGI diet, and -8.4 +/- 1.5 kg for the HF diet). All groups improved in insulin sensitivity at the end of the feeding phase of the study. During the free-living phase, all groups maintained their initial weight loss and their improved insulin sensitivity. Weight loss and improved insulin sensitivity scores were independent of diet composition. In summary, lowering the glycemic load and glycemic index of weight reduction diets does not provide any added benefit to energy restriction in promoting weight loss in obese subjects.

Though this was done on obese subjects, physiology does not change.

This is but one of many studies showing the GI index leaves much to be desired.

Take for instance pinto beans are higher on the GI scale than M&M's. Which do you think are more nutritious, let alone bodybuilding food?

miezimau · 04-03-2006, 02:13 PM

I usually use Natural Peanut butter (nothing added and nothing taken away) Just really ground up peanuts no extra stuff for preservation and things like that. Yes it isn't sweet, but that is besides the point. God didn't intend Peanuts to be sweet, then why mess with it?

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skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,202 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	yeah, i've seen that too. There's low fat peanut butter (which has ridiculous amounts of sugar and still has trans fat) There's low carb peanut butter (which is the same thing as skippy only 3-5g of it is 'sugar alcohols') Then there's Low GI peanut butter (LOLOLOL!) That's like marketing fat free sugar. __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

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skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,202 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	i have their cooking oil though. too bad it tastes like absolute horse $(# __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

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NYCmitch25 Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,099 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 50	ah your right :boink: ... i guess if you can live with 1g

04-03-2006, 12:13 AM	#14
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,202 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	palm oils are supposed to be pretty bad for you too (i think??) __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

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04-03-2006, 05:11 AM	#16
LFL Amateur Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 80 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 3	The irony is GI is such a non issue really. Other than for diabetics, research shows on a hypocaloric diet, no difference in weight loss between the two groups. J Nutr. 2005 Oct;135(10):2387-91. Related Articles, Links Reduced glycemic index and glycemic load diets do not increase the effects of energy restriction on weight loss and insulin sensitivity in obese men and women. Raatz SK, Torkelson CJ, Redmon JB, Reck KP, Kwong CA, Swanson JE, Liu C, Thomas W, Bantle JP. General Clinical Research Center, Department of Medicine, School of Public Health, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN, USA. 1. raatz@med.umn.edu Reducing the dietary glycemic load and the glycemic index was proposed as a novel approach to weight reduction. A parallel-design, randomized 12-wk controlled feeding trial with a 24-wk follow-up phase was conducted to test the hypothesis that a hypocaloric diet designed to reduce the glycemic load and the glycemic index would result in greater sustained weight loss than other hypocaloric diets. Obese subjects (n = 29) were randomly assigned to 1 of 3 diets providing 3138 kJ less than estimated energy needs: high glycemic index (HGI), low glycemic index (LGI), or high fat (HF). For the first 12 wk, all food was provided to subjects (feeding phase). Subjects (n = 22) were instructed to follow the assigned diet for 24 additional weeks (free-living phase). Total body weight was obtained and body composition was assessed by skinfold measurements. Insulin sensitivity was assessed by the homeostasis model (HOMA). At 12 wk, weight changes from baseline were significant in all groups but not different among groups (-9.3 +/- 1.3 kg for the HGI diet, -9.9 +/- 1.4 kg for the LGI diet, and -8.4 +/- 1.5 kg for the HF diet). All groups improved in insulin sensitivity at the end of the feeding phase of the study. During the free-living phase, all groups maintained their initial weight loss and their improved insulin sensitivity. Weight loss and improved insulin sensitivity scores were independent of diet composition. In summary, lowering the glycemic load and glycemic index of weight reduction diets does not provide any added benefit to energy restriction in promoting weight loss in obese subjects. Though this was done on obese subjects, physiology does not change. This is but one of many studies showing the GI index leaves much to be desired. Take for instance pinto beans are higher on the GI scale than M&M's. Which do you think are more nutritious, let alone bodybuilding food?

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miezimau IMPC Contestant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: at home Posts: 473 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 10	I usually use Natural Peanut butter (nothing added and nothing taken away) Just really ground up peanuts no extra stuff for preservation and things like that. Yes it isn't sweet, but that is besides the point. God didn't intend Peanuts to be sweet, then why mess with it?

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