Heavy metals detox log

**Grunt76** · 11-12-2005, 07:00 PM

Firstly, I'll start by saying that I really really didn't know where to put this log. Atall. I mean, not in "anabolics" for sure... So admins, feel free to move this to a more appropriate place if you feel the need to.

I've just read 2 articles about Poliquin and his training methods and stuff.

The article is in 2 parts here:
http://www.bodyofscience.com/issues/...5_poliquin.pdf
http://www.bodyofscience.com/issues/...summer2005.pdf

Poliquin talks of heavy metals toxicity building up during the years, causing all kinds of undecypherable symptoms, that a LOT of people have mercury poisoning and that it can hider the conversion of T4 to T3 and kill muscle growth in its tracks, etc.

The detox for heavy metals is cilantro tincture ED until the detox is over, which is allegedly easy to tell. This will be my little experiment down this road as I have been exposed to all kinds of crap and have had the grey dental work. Even swallowed a filling as a kid. Not good.

**Grunt76** · 11-12-2005, 07:01 PM

The dosing schedule is ideally 2x ED. I began supplementing on Nov. 10 with a single dose. I am reporting on my day 2.

Yesterday, on day 2, I used a half dosage of 2x .5ml of the tincture. I went to the gym and didn't feel like doing anything. I tried the deadlifts and it felt just wrong. Went to the pulldown machine and it didn't feel right either. So I just quit.

I wasn't feeling tired, but somewhat weak and OFF somehow. I believe the first symptoms of the detox are already showing. As per my reading, this chelation therapy feels strange in the brain. One person reported a "spewing" inside her head, a constant feeling like her brain was rejecting something. I do feel something similar.

Today is Day 3, I'll make another post tonight about that.

HAYWOOD JABLOME · 11-16-2005, 04:20 AM

any update?

**Ikaika** · 11-16-2005, 03:52 PM

wow very interesting log...curious to see what happens

**Grunt76** · 11-24-2005, 09:47 PM

Sorry for no updates! I've been looking for this thread for a while!

Well I'm not about to tell you about day 3, so here's a quick rundown of the progress thus far:

I quickly increased the dosage to 1ml 2x ED which was run for a little bit, then the dosage was doubled to 2ml 2x ED. Then on day 11 and 12 I didn't dose because I had to speak publicly and needed to be in good mental shape. Let me tell you this shit is for real. Lots of sides, it does NOT feel good!

Then on day 13 I increased the dosage to 3ml 2x ED and expected to feel nearly suicidal and surprisingly the sides aren't as bad as just prior to stopping. I imagine that this pause gave my body time to eliminate lots of this newly-chelated crap, letting me feel better. Well of course "better" is relative. Here's a list of symptoms, just so you know what you're getting into if anyone feels the need to join me in the realm of the heavy-metal-free humans...
- Feeling cold
- Headaches
- Loss of willpower, especially for physical effort
- Tooth aches
- A feeling of pressure in my head
- Gastrointestinal upset
- Nausea
- "Brain farts"
- Disturbed sleep patterns

So that's that. Put my not updating this thread down as a side too. I was looking for it but couldn't find it. Brain fart.

**Grunt76** · 11-28-2005, 10:44 AM

Feeling much better since yesterday. Still using the triple dosage but the sides seem to be subsiding by a good margin. This is a sign of progressing detox. My feeling is that one of the toxins is nearly eliminated, only 2 to go ...

**Ikaika** · 11-28-2005, 07:40 PM

looks like you're doin well...wish there was a way to quantify the heavy metals you're purging.

**DJSTARER** · 11-28-2005, 10:53 PM

SS01, this rocks. That is.... the results will. I can't imagine what you are going through. Makes me wonder about all the crap in my bod....

Don't forget your multi

**Grunt76** · 12-02-2005, 08:14 PM

Oops, forgot my multi.

Other than that, still doing well. One of the most unusual sides of this is the "brain fart" thing. It' pretty crazy. I'll give a couple examples, for your entertainment.

I have a lady friend who is doing something similar, albeit at a lower dosage. She works in a restaurant. At some point she's making a ceasar salad in the kitchen and puts more croutons than romaine in the plate. She had it served like that, not seeing what she was doing.

Yesterday I go to make coffee and put the ground coffee in my coffee maker's WATER compartment.

This morning I go to have cereal, and pick a PLATE from the cupboard.

What's going on? I call those "brain farts"... What else can I name them? They're beyond strange, for sure.

**Grunt76** · 12-07-2005, 03:00 AM

Symptoms of detox are just about gone. I feel close to 100% although I am told to expect to feel 120% when all is said and done. I sure am looking forward to that.

I went to the gym today! Did weights for the first time in 2 weeks! Went OK, I'd say. Not very strong, but I did not push myself, I'm just kinda getting back into the swing of things.

Weighed myself and I am still 230.

With my pump gone, this means I'll probaby be 235 in a week when I'm really back.

That's allright though, I like challenges.

**DarkFalcon** · 12-07-2005, 06:36 AM

Oh crap I can't believe I missed this! I was highly interested in Poliquin's theories on detoxing the body. I never really pursued it since it wasn't talked about much on the forums. How much does a run like this cost? I'll be excited to see how different you feel post cleansing if at all.

**Grunt76** · 12-07-2005, 02:07 PM

This is a very inexpensive thing to do if you go the natural route. The chemical route might be more expensive, or not, I just don't know.

I know of a place that sells the cilantro extract for like 5$ a bottle. It takes between 4 and 8 of them for an 8 week detox. 8 weeks is a good length of time, so I hear, especially at the higher dosages as I am doing.

**Grunt76** · 01-10-2006, 12:09 AM

OK so I've been sick with the flu for the first time in 20 years. I have no doubt that the chelation therapy is responsible for this. I took about 6 weeks off the gym all in all and have come back with a new split. Feeling good, my usual, cannot yet tell if there is any accelerated fatloss or what. Will keep you posted.

11-16-2005, 04:20 AM	#3
HAYWOOD JABLOME Pro Stature Join Date: May 2005 Location: Calgary Posts: 343 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 93	any update? __________________ Homer: [drunk] "Look, the thing about my family is there's five of us. Marge, Bart, Girl Bart, the one who doesn't talk, and the fat guy. How I loathe him."

11-16-2005, 03:52 PM	#4
Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,837 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 220	wow very interesting log...curious to see what happens __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

11-28-2005, 07:40 PM	#7
Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,837 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 220	looks like you're doin well...wish there was a way to quantify the heavy metals you're purging. __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

11-28-2005, 10:53 PM	#8
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,100 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 115	SS01, this rocks. That is.... the results will. I can't imagine what you are going through. Makes me wonder about all the crap in my bod.... Don't forget your multi __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

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12-07-2005, 06:36 AM	#11
DarkFalcon I've got a RAGING clue! Join Date: May 2005 Location: dnyc99's cleaning staff Posts: 11,511 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 299	Oh crap I can't believe I missed this! I was highly interested in Poliquin's theories on detoxing the body. I never really pursued it since it wasn't talked about much on the forums. How much does a run like this cost? I'll be excited to see how different you feel post cleansing if at all.