Ground Lean Beef question

lisekpl · 05-27-2006, 09:02 PM

Well I'm a manager of a local supermarket and restaurant here in Chicago and I'm currently in the process of re-doing our menu and just remembered that we serve up a dish of ground lean beef RAW. First off this is a Eastern European recipe (there known as TATAR) which is very popular and for any skeptics out there it has been USDA and ILSDA approved, in fact its actually pretty good. As I said earlier I also manage the supermarket where this meat comes from so I know what the butcher slices, the pieces that are used for this dish are the leanest parts of beef inside and beef knuckles. The usual serving is about a fist size large with a raw egg yolk in the middle, a couple slices of dill pickles some pepper and paprika. But unfortunately I don't know the nutrition facts or effects of eating such food. And since I'm trying to gain mass and red meat is good for that I want to know your opinion about it.
Thanks, Chris

**DJSTARER** · 05-28-2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lisekpl

Well I'm a manager of a local supermarket and restaurant here in Chicago and I'm currently in the process of re-doing our menu and just remembered that we serve up a dish of ground lean beef RAW. First off this is a Eastern European recipe (there known as TATAR) which is very popular and for any skeptics out there it has been USDA and ILSDA approved, in fact its actually pretty good. As I said earlier I also manage the supermarket where this meat comes from so I know what the butcher slices, the pieces that are used for this dish are the leanest parts of beef inside and beef knuckles. The usual serving is about a fist size large with a raw egg yolk in the middle, a couple slices of dill pickles some pepper and paprika. But unfortunately I don't know the nutrition facts or effects of eating such food. And since I'm trying to gain mass and red meat is good for that I want to know your opinion about it.
Thanks, Chris

First off, Chris, where in Chicago are you located? I'm in the area for the summer comuting to Glencoe as a golf teacher.

To answer your questions, it is tough to say exactly, but this website may help. It all depends on the cut, fat% and what not. I know off the top of my head that a yolk is about 50 kcals, depending on the size of the egg.

Nutritiondata.com

Don't forget your multi

Ihateeveryone · 05-29-2006, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by lisekpl

Well I'm a manager of a local supermarket and restaurant here in Chicago and I'm currently in the process of re-doing our menu and just remembered that we serve up a dish of ground lean beef RAW. First off this is a Eastern European recipe (there known as TATAR) which is very popular and for any skeptics out there it has been USDA and ILSDA approved, in fact its actually pretty good. As I said earlier I also manage the supermarket where this meat comes from so I know what the butcher slices, the pieces that are used for this dish are the leanest parts of beef inside and beef knuckles. The usual serving is about a fist size large with a raw egg yolk in the middle, a couple slices of dill pickles some pepper and paprika. But unfortunately I don't know the nutrition facts or effects of eating such food. And since I'm trying to gain mass and red meat is good for that I want to know your opinion about it.
Thanks, Chris

Mr Bean ordered that crap for his birthday one year, and spent most of the episode trying to dispose of it without people knowing.

Honestly, I couldn't sit there and eat raw mince. Serve it up warm at least.

**DJSTARER** · 05-30-2006, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ihateeveryone

Mr Bean ordered that crap for his birthday one year, and spent most of the episode trying to dispose of it without people knowing.

Honestly, I couldn't sit there and eat raw mince. Serve it up warm at least.

useful post....

Ihateeveryone · 05-30-2006, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DJSTARER

useful post....

I was recounting a classic Mr Bean moment

lisekpl · 06-01-2006, 12:59 AM

I'm in the northwest side (around Milwaukee & Belmont) -
and as far as this ground lean beef I did some research and it turns out that it's actually not that nutritious, bottom line is that beef should be at least cooked to get rid of all the fluids. Well I prefer mine grilled, and thats why I just expanded the beef section on the menu

but what the hell. I just figured that maybe someone here ate it raw and were just curious. Another reason beef is better when served cooked is because all beef meat has a substance callyed oxymayoglobin, when certain portions of the meat are deprived of oxygen it discolors fast, from red pink to dark brown. Its not bad per say but it does affect the quality. I just thought I's share that.
Thanks anyways, maybe someday some of you guys from the area can stop by and check the place out. The supermarket is called Wally's Int. Market and the restaurant is Angelica's.
Chris

**DJSTARER** · 06-01-2006, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lisekpl

I'm in the northwest side (around Milwaukee & Belmont) -
and as far as this ground lean beef I did some research and it turns out that it's actually not that nutritious, bottom line is that beef should be at least cooked to get rid of all the fluids. Well I prefer mine grilled, and thats why I just expanded the beef section on the menu

but what the hell. I just figured that maybe someone here ate it raw and were just curious. Another reason beef is better when served cooked is because all beef meat has a substance callyed oxymayoglobin, when certain portions of the meat are deprived of oxygen it discolors fast, from red pink to dark brown. Its not bad per say but it does affect the quality. I just thought I's share that.
Thanks anyways, maybe someday some of you guys from the area can stop by and check the place out. The supermarket is called Wally's Int. Market and the restaurant is Angelica's.
Chris

awsome. I love to learn something new every day. Good research and post.

I live in edgewater... just north of the city.... near lawrence and sheradin... down the street from the ravenswood metra station.

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lisekpl Amateur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 92 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Ground Lean Beef question Well I'm a manager of a local supermarket and restaurant here in Chicago and I'm currently in the process of re-doing our menu and just remembered that we serve up a dish of ground lean beef RAW. First off this is a Eastern European recipe (there known as TATAR) which is very popular and for any skeptics out there it has been USDA and ILSDA approved, in fact its actually pretty good. As I said earlier I also manage the supermarket where this meat comes from so I know what the butcher slices, the pieces that are used for this dish are the leanest parts of beef inside and beef knuckles. The usual serving is about a fist size large with a raw egg yolk in the middle, a couple slices of dill pickles some pepper and paprika. But unfortunately I don't know the nutrition facts or effects of eating such food. And since I'm trying to gain mass and red meat is good for that I want to know your opinion about it. Thanks, Chris

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06-01-2006, 12:59 AM	#6
lisekpl Amateur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 92 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	I'm in the northwest side (around Milwaukee & Belmont) - and as far as this ground lean beef I did some research and it turns out that it's actually not that nutritious, bottom line is that beef should be at least cooked to get rid of all the fluids. Well I prefer mine grilled, and thats why I just expanded the beef section on the menu but what the hell. I just figured that maybe someone here ate it raw and were just curious. Another reason beef is better when served cooked is because all beef meat has a substance callyed oxymayoglobin, when certain portions of the meat are deprived of oxygen it discolors fast, from red pink to dark brown. Its not bad per say but it does affect the quality. I just thought I's share that. Thanks anyways, maybe someday some of you guys from the area can stop by and check the place out. The supermarket is called Wally's Int. Market and the restaurant is Angelica's. Chris