Getting sick...this is ridiculous

vadox6466 · 04-25-2006, 07:10 PM

I've been getting sick pretty much every month since November. I look at the people who only get sick once a year and wonder how the hell they do it. I thought when bb'ing your immune system is supposed to get better? I eat strictly on the foods on my diet (good food), take a multi every day, have 1.5g of vit C every day, take glutamine, drink 8L of water a day...and yet my immune system seems like it's at its worst ever. I'm going to see a doctor later today, because earlier this month I broke out into a fever, and then now, 3 weeks later, I'm sick with cold-like symptoms again.

BTW, I was bulking from November to April, eating 4000 cals a day, but didn't gain a single lb because every month I'd get sick, lose a few lb's (didn't skip a single meal when I was sick), and then it'd take 2 or 3 weeks to gain that weight back. Hovered around 180lb's for 5 months, without ANY F'CKING PROGRESS!

Through that time period I've been in the best shape of my life, and yet I keep getting sick. I remember in grade 8 (2003), when I was super fat, I only got sick one time the whole year...I am sooo frustrated.

Hopefully the doc will figure something out

A_N_91 · 04-25-2006, 07:28 PM

Definately see a doctor. I haven't gotten sick, not even a cold in 4 years.

**DJSTARER** · 04-26-2006, 12:14 AM

sleep and cleanliness may be the culprit. Just a guess.

_Underdog_ · 04-26-2006, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DJSTARER

sleep and cleanliness may be the culprit. Just a guess.

Most definately. Most of the time when I get sick it's because I don't get enough sleep. I never went to a doctor or anything but that's my own diagnosis and reasonings. During high school I used to be getting 4(most-likely) to 8(unlikely) hours of sleep a night.

Uncleanliness will result in fevers from the act of your body trying to remove its bacteria by increasing your body temp.

Hope this helps. And yeah, definately see a doc.

**DJSTARER** · 04-26-2006, 01:42 AM

right on with sleep. Literally: if i have more than 2 nights of less than 6 hours of sleep, i'm GUARENTEED to get a cold.

vadox6466 · 04-26-2006, 04:31 AM

Well I'm getting 8 hours of sleep per night, in addition to some naps thrown in here and there. Doctor said it may be related to asthma, which I had when I was younger.. I'm going to an allergist May 9th, and I'm also getting some blood tests done when I get better. Hopefully these illnesses won't slow me down when I start bulking in June...

EDIT: About uncleanliness, I wash my hands before every meal and take two showers a day

I just had a thought.. I started drinking 8L of water a day in October, and when school started I bring 4 water bottles with me there each day. I don't change them very frequently, only when they start to get smelly. Since October I've only changed them twice.. Maybe that's it?

vadox6466 · 04-26-2006, 05:34 AM

I've been thinking about the bottles, and I think that may be it. I use them at school, and then bring them home. At home I take them with me all over the house, and when I finish one I drop it on the floor without a lid. I'm gonna start using the bottles only at school, some glass at home, and changing them every week. Hopefully that's what was causing all this and I'll stop getting ill so frequently

**powerman2000** · 04-26-2006, 05:53 AM

Do you spend much time around very small children?

vadox6466 · 04-26-2006, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

Do you spend much time around very small children?

I have two younger brothers, 9 and 13, but that's it..

**powerman2000** · 04-27-2006, 04:46 AM

Little kids are great at bringing home all sorts of germs and bacterias.

Arghlita · 04-27-2006, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by vadox6466

I've been thinking about the bottles, and I think that may be it. I use them at school, and then bring them home. At home I take them with me all over the house, and when I finish one I drop it on the floor without a lid. I'm gonna start using the bottles only at school, some glass at home, and changing them every week. Hopefully that's what was causing all this and I'll stop getting ill so frequently

Yeah, that would be it. Most water bottles have a warning label not to reuse them, and that's why. In addition, plastic bottles can leach a chemical that affects you like excess estrogen, which obviously you wouldn't want.

**bubba g** · 04-27-2006, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by vadox6466

I've been thinking about the bottles, and I think that may be it. I use them at school, and then bring them home. At home I take them with me all over the house, and when I finish one I drop it on the floor without a lid. I'm gonna start using the bottles only at school, some glass at home, and changing them every week. Hopefully that's what was causing all this and I'll stop getting ill so frequently

I don't think that is it bro... I have done the same thing.... I have gotten like 1 cold in the last 3 years...

You could be over training... Also stress is a kiiler, a lot of stress will weaken your immune systym a lot.

Post your workout routine reps sets exercises etc...

vadox6466 · 04-27-2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba g

I don't think that is it bro... I have done the same thing.... I have gotten like 1 cold in the last 3 years...

You could be over training... Also stress is a kiiler, a lot of stress will weaken your immune systym a lot.

Post your workout routine reps sets exercises etc...

Well I have a crappy immune system regardless (allergic to nuts, dustmites, used to have asthma, used to get sick very often as a kid but not in the past couple of years), and the bottles are the only thing that have stayed the same throughout. I've changed both diet and routine since November, by anyway here's the program I just finished:

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Week 1: 3x12
Week 2: 3x10
Week 3: 3x8
Week 4: 4x6
Week 5: 5x5
Week 6: 8x3

Upper Day 1:
- Bench Press
- Close Grip Bench
- Military Press
- Pendlay Row

Lower Day 1:
- Conventional Deadlift
- Narrow Stance Squat
- Goodmornings
- Barbell Shrugs

Upper Day 2:
- DB Bench
- Narrow Grip Incline
- Plate Raise
- Pull-downs

Lower Day 2:
- Narrow Stance Squat
- SLDLs
- Reverse Hyper
- Dumbell Shrugs

After I get better I'll go 5x a week with shorter workouts, borrowing a Max-OT routine until June 18th. Then I start bulking and will most likely try HST for the first time, but I'll decide when I get there

I don't think it's stress either. School (amount of work) wise, this is the hardest year by far, but I've also had the most fun this year out of all my HS years, so it kinda evens itself out

**bubba g** · 04-27-2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vadox6466

Well I have a crappy immune system regardless (allergic to nuts, dustmites, used to have asthma, used to get sick very often as a kid but not in the past couple of years), and the bottles are the only thing that have stayed the same throughout. I've changed both diet and routine since November, by anyway here's the program I just finished:

After I get better I'll go 5x a week with shorter workouts, borrowing a Max-OT routine until June 18th. Then I start bulking and will most likely try HST for the first time, but I'll decide when I get there

I don't think it's stress either. School (amount of work) wise, this is the hardest year by far, but I've also had the most fun this year out of all my HS years, so it kinda evens itself out

Maybe you should try a 3 day a week routine Mon Wed Fri. It doesn't look like you are doing too much volume at all, but if you train bodyparts before they are completely recovered you could be overtrained, which will weaken your immune system.

Also I take 3 grams (3 1000mg pills a day) of vitamin C a day.. one in the morning one at noon, and one at dinner time. If I feel a little under the weather like a cold might be coming on, I take twice that....

If you smoke ciggarettes that will cause you to get more colds... I used to get colds like 3 times a year till I quit a few years ago.. Quit if you do and you will see a huge improvement...

The most common way to contract a cold, is to touch something that is infected, then touch your eyes, or nose... make an effort to not touch either without clean hands....

These things should definatly help

vadox6466 · 04-27-2006, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba g

Maybe you should try a 3 day a week routine Mon Wed Fri. It doesn't look like you are doing too much volume at all, but if you train bodyparts before they are completely recovered you could be overtrained, which will weaken your immune system.

Also I take 3 grams (3 1000mg pills a day) of vitamin C a day.. one in the morning one at noon, and one at dinner time. If I feel a little under the weather like a cold might be coming on, I take twice that....

If you smoke ciggarettes that will cause you to get more colds... I used to get colds like 3 times a year till I quit a few years ago.. Quit if you do and you will see a huge improvement...

The most common way to contract a cold, is to touch something that is infected, then touch your eyes, or nose... make an effort to not touch either without clean hands....

These things should definatly help

I did a three-day/week routine for 3 months starting from December, didn't make a difference. Thanks for the suggestion tho..

I take 1.5g of Vit C all at once, would spreading it out through the day be better? When I'm sick I double or triple that..

Don't smoke or drink, hell I'm only 16

And I'm definately gonna start paying attention to touching my face with anything that may not be clean (including those bottles) I'm still hoping it is the bottles and nothing wrong with me..

**Grunt76** · 04-27-2006, 09:55 PM

I think it could very well be the water bottles man.

Try colloidal silver, become immune to pathogen-induced disease.

**davtown** · 03-03-2007, 10:04 AM

Hey Eddy, did this ever clear up? Did you find the source of the problem?

**bubba g** · 03-03-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by davtown

Hey Eddy, did this ever clear up? Did you find the source of the problem?

I am curious to hear this myself. Could possible help others with the info... most people reuse water bottles, and don't clean them as much as they should..

04-25-2006, 07:10 PM	#1
vadox6466 IMPC Contestant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 278 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Getting sick...this is ridiculous I've been getting sick pretty much every month since November. I look at the people who only get sick once a year and wonder how the hell they do it. I thought when bb'ing your immune system is supposed to get better? I eat strictly on the foods on my diet (good food), take a multi every day, have 1.5g of vit C every day, take glutamine, drink 8L of water a day...and yet my immune system seems like it's at its worst ever. I'm going to see a doctor later today, because earlier this month I broke out into a fever, and then now, 3 weeks later, I'm sick with cold-like symptoms again. BTW, I was bulking from November to April, eating 4000 cals a day, but didn't gain a single lb because every month I'd get sick, lose a few lb's (didn't skip a single meal when I was sick), and then it'd take 2 or 3 weeks to gain that weight back. Hovered around 180lb's for 5 months, without ANY F'CKING PROGRESS! Through that time period I've been in the best shape of my life, and yet I keep getting sick. I remember in grade 8 (2003), when I was super fat, I only got sick one time the whole year...I am sooo frustrated. Hopefully the doc will figure something out __________________ IMPC Training Journal- http://ironmass.com/forums/showthrea...166#post133166

04-26-2006, 12:14 AM	#3
DJSTARER Writing Staff Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 3,910 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 109	sleep and cleanliness may be the culprit. Just a guess. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: Total 1400 in competition

04-26-2006, 01:42 AM	#5
DJSTARER Writing Staff Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 3,910 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 109	right on with sleep. Literally: if i have more than 2 nights of less than 6 hours of sleep, i'm GUARENTEED to get a cold. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: Total 1400 in competition

04-26-2006, 04:31 AM	#6
vadox6466 IMPC Contestant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 278 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Well I'm getting 8 hours of sleep per night, in addition to some naps thrown in here and there. Doctor said it may be related to asthma, which I had when I was younger.. I'm going to an allergist May 9th, and I'm also getting some blood tests done when I get better. Hopefully these illnesses won't slow me down when I start bulking in June... EDIT: About uncleanliness, I wash my hands before every meal and take two showers a day I just had a thought.. I started drinking 8L of water a day in October, and when school started I bring 4 water bottles with me there each day. I don't change them very frequently, only when they start to get smelly. Since October I've only changed them twice.. Maybe that's it? __________________ IMPC Training Journal- http://ironmass.com/forums/showthrea...166#post133166

04-26-2006, 05:34 AM	#7
vadox6466 IMPC Contestant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 278 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	I've been thinking about the bottles, and I think that may be it. I use them at school, and then bring them home. At home I take them with me all over the house, and when I finish one I drop it on the floor without a lid. I'm gonna start using the bottles only at school, some glass at home, and changing them every week. Hopefully that's what was causing all this and I'll stop getting ill so frequently __________________ IMPC Training Journal- http://ironmass.com/forums/showthrea...166#post133166

04-25-2006, 07:28 PM	#2
A_N_91 Pro Stature Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 849 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	Definately see a doctor. I haven't gotten sick, not even a cold in 4 years.

04-26-2006, 05:53 AM	#8
powerman2000 The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,242 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 198	Do you spend much time around very small children? __________________ Don't forget to periodize Best BP 507 lbs competitive Best Squat 705 lbs competitive Best DL 650 lbs competitive Guns don't kill people, men who come home early do. My workout log http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6247

04-27-2006, 04:46 AM	#10
powerman2000 The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,242 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 198	Little kids are great at bringing home all sorts of germs and bacterias. __________________ Don't forget to periodize Best BP 507 lbs competitive Best Squat 705 lbs competitive Best DL 650 lbs competitive Guns don't kill people, men who come home early do. My workout log http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6247

03-03-2007, 10:04 AM	#17
davtown OM NOM NOM NOM Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,264 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 125	Hey Eddy, did this ever clear up? Did you find the source of the problem? __________________ **MY TRAINING LOG** current/goal D: 330/380 S: 270/300 B: 235/260