Dextrose Question

Hybrid · 01-12-2006, 12:47 AM

I wasn't sure where to put this, however, I recently purchased me some dextrose and I've been mixing it in with my whey shake PWO. From my measely calculations, since 1g of dextrose = 1g of carbs, is 1 cup of dextrose only 60g carbs?

Thanks.

sawastea · 01-12-2006, 02:11 PM

By my calculations, one cup of dextrose is close to three tims that. I don't have a measuring scale handy but I thought a cup was pretty damn close to 200g.

**EME** · 01-12-2006, 02:29 PM

1 cup = 229.92 grams

- EME

**skelooth** · 01-12-2006, 03:41 PM

IIRC 3 tblspns of dextrose is 50g of carbs, i might be wrong. Just look at the nutrition panel on the package of your dextrose bro, it's all right there

Lift · 01-12-2006, 03:59 PM

buy some digi scales! its so much easier than all this half a cup/quarter of a cup thing.

Hybrid · 01-13-2006, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EME

1 cup = 229.92 grams

- EME

Oh crap, REALLY?!

Wow were my calculations off. That means I've been getting 229g of carbs PWO? No wonder my damn shake is so sweet. Oh my god. I'm drinking PWO right now. Gonna go toss this and make one with whey only....

Thanks EME.... Good thing I asked... Holy bejesus!

**DJSTARER** · 01-13-2006, 07:12 PM

wow, how has your body responded to all those carbs PWO? feelin sleepy?

Hybrid · 01-13-2006, 07:15 PM

Nope. Didn't feel any different, just curbed the hell outta my sweet tooth.

EDIT: did feel a bit bloated tho after drinking alot of water.

Animosity · 01-14-2006, 08:24 AM

I believe 1.25 tbsp is 4g of carbs.

pu12en12g · 01-14-2006, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid

I wasn't sure where to put this, however, I recently purchased me some dextrose and I've been mixing it in with my whey shake PWO.

You may want to consider maltodextrin or even oat powder instead.

**skelooth** · 01-14-2006, 04:26 PM

ROTF WOW!!!!!! You've been taking a whole cup of dextrose? :rofl:

AYung · 01-14-2006, 07:35 PM

I would recommend an eletric scale. 1tbsp = 15g I believe, if that helps.

xsquizet · 01-14-2006, 08:52 PM

yea i need to know that to, so 3tbspns equalls 50g so thats good, so my pwo shake will look like this 1 liter of water, 50g of protein and 50g of dextrose, of oatmeal mix it together and got my pwo shake

Hybrid · 01-14-2006, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelooth

ROTF WOW!!!!!! You've been taking a whole cup of dextrose? :rofl:

I know :crazy1:

Pu12, why slower GI carbs over higher? Don't I want to spike insulin levels allowing nutrients to be stored as quickly as possible and immediatly get rid of any catabolic state I may have put myself into lifting as soon as possible? I also eat my post-post-workout meal 1 - 1/2 hours later which consists of low GI carbs. Why low GI?

Animosity · 01-15-2006, 12:51 AM

Well Hybrid, I would say stick to Glucose as it has the highest GI for best replenishment. Regardless of what others say....I would recommend using 40-50 grams (more if you are a bigger guy) glucose and at least 40-50 grams of whey. For me dextrose couldn't be more convenient and makes my post-wo shake taste amazing. I think you are doing well with having dextrose immediately then a meal with low gi carbs an hour later. A lot of the old school guys do this and I think some people just get too caught up in trying to find new solutions that aren't really going to make a difference. For me, if its cheap, convenient, and has been proven to work, and has been used for years upon years, it is a great choice. This applies to most aspects of sports nutrition, it would be interesting to do a study on supplementation effectiveness over the last 10 years, although there is so much more shit out on the market there are only a few things that actually work. My vote is to stick with the glucose.

**skelooth** · 01-15-2006, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid

I know :crazy1:

Pu12, why slower GI carbs over higher? Don't I want to spike insulin levels allowing nutrients to be stored as quickly as possible and immediatly get rid of any catabolic state I may have put myself into lifting as soon as possible? I also eat my post-post-workout meal 1 - 1/2 hours later which consists of low GI carbs. Why low GI?

I've been hounding pu12 about that forever also lol. I believe the issue with dextrose is that it's TOO high gi.... uh, or something like that. I don't know. I forget how he explained it but he actually got me to go from using dextrose to buying a tub of maltodextrin

**DJSTARER** · 01-15-2006, 01:28 AM

Basically, as explained to me by EME, on a bulk, since CHO intake is high all day long, immediately refilling your glycogen stores PWO isn't as important. On the other hand, on a cut, since CHO intake may be restricted during the day, a simple carb may be optimal to tap off ur muscles as quick as possible in order to remove bad chemicals such as cortisol.

Hybrid · 01-15-2006, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJSTARER

Basically, as explained to me by EME, on a bulk, since CHO intake is high all day long, immediately refilling your glycogen stores PWO isn't as important. On the other hand, on a cut, since CHO intake may be restricted during the day, a simple carb may be optimal to tap off ur muscles as quick as possible in order to remove bad chemicals such as cortisol.

That would make sense. I guess it would also depend upon the intensity and duration of your exercise sessions (obviously it would have to be VERY long and VERY intesne to completly empty your stores while bulking)

Also, how about if I worked out in the morning after only one meal? My first meal contains (carbohydrate wise) 1 cup oats + 1 banana. I'd imagine since I do a carb cut off at 7 PM, my glycogen stores should be a bit low, even after my first meal. I wonder how low though.

**DJSTARER** · 01-15-2006, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid

That would make sense. I guess it would also depend upon the intensity and duration of your exercise sessions (obviously it would have to be VERY long and VERY intesne to completly empty your stores while bulking)

Also, how about if I worked out in the morning after only one meal? My first meal contains (carbohydrate wise) 1 cup oats + 1 banana. I'd imagine since I do a carb cut off at 7 PM, my glycogen stores should be a bit low, even after my first meal. I wonder how low though.

agreed

pu12en12g · 02-10-2006, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid

I know :crazy1:

Pu12, why slower GI carbs over higher? Don't I want to spike insulin levels allowing nutrients to be stored as quickly as possible and immediatly get rid of any catabolic state I may have put myself into lifting as soon as possible? I also eat my post-post-workout meal 1 - 1/2 hours later which consists of low GI carbs. Why low GI?

Depends on your pre-workout nutrition and timing... there are a few scenarios where Dex / Malto would be worth a try.

Why many of us feel that oats and other similar carb sources are optimal for lean gains, overall nutrition, and overall health:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...&postcount=162

01-12-2006, 12:47 AM	#1
Hybrid IMPC Contestant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gibsonia PA Posts: 824 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 14	Dextrose Question I wasn't sure where to put this, however, I recently purchased me some dextrose and I've been mixing it in with my whey shake PWO. From my measely calculations, since 1g of dextrose = 1g of carbs, is 1 cup of dextrose only 60g carbs? Thanks. __________________ If you even dream about beating me you'd better wake up and apologize - Muhammad Ali

01-12-2006, 02:29 PM	#3
EME Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,265 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 51	1 cup = 229.92 grams - EME __________________ PhysiqueFXonline - Online Nutrition and Training with Michael and Kendra Elias: www.MichaelandKendra.com Team Molecular Nutrition Creative Director FAME Media Group / World Natural Sports Organization Editor-In-Chief FAME Magazine www.FAMEWorldTour.com

01-12-2006, 03:41 PM	#4
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,205 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	IIRC 3 tblspns of dextrose is 50g of carbs, i might be wrong. Just look at the nutrition panel on the package of your dextrose bro, it's all right there __________________ R I P

01-12-2006, 03:59 PM	#5
Lift I Love IronMass.Com Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 825 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 12	buy some digi scales! its so much easier than all this half a cup/quarter of a cup thing. __________________ MrLiftALot@hotmail.com "King Kong Ain't Got Sh*t On Me..."

01-13-2006, 07:12 PM	#7
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,166 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 118	wow, how has your body responded to all those carbs PWO? feelin sleepy? __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

01-12-2006, 02:11 PM	#2
sawastea Amateur Join Date: May 2005 Location: On the corner of Adonis and Complex Posts: 77 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 8	By my calculations, one cup of dextrose is close to three tims that. I don't have a measuring scale handy but I thought a cup was pretty damn close to 200g.

01-13-2006, 07:15 PM	#8
Hybrid IMPC Contestant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gibsonia PA Posts: 824 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 14	Nope. Didn't feel any different, just curbed the hell outta my sweet tooth. EDIT: did feel a bit bloated tho after drinking alot of water. __________________ If you even dream about beating me you'd better wake up and apologize - Muhammad Ali

01-14-2006, 08:24 AM	#9
Animosity New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 14 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	I believe 1.25 tbsp is 4g of carbs.

01-14-2006, 04:26 PM	#11
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,205 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	ROTF WOW!!!!!! You've been taking a whole cup of dextrose? :rofl: __________________ R I P

01-14-2006, 07:35 PM	#12
AYung IMPC Contestant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada Posts: 2,301 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 42	I would recommend an eletric scale. 1tbsp = 15g I believe, if that helps. __________________ Clean Bulking Journal http://www.ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=9546 Max Lifts Bench: 155 x 6 Deadlift: 315 x 6 Squat: 245 x 6 1 Rep Max Lifts Bench: 180 - Tested Deadlift: 365 - Tested Squat: 285 - Estimated TOTAL: 831 @ 156lbs Eddie Guerrero (1967-2005, R.I.P.) You'll always be loved and remembered.

01-14-2006, 08:52 PM	#13
xsquizet Amateur Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: good ol south huntsville alabama Posts: 71 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 3	yea i need to know that to, so 3tbspns equalls 50g so thats good, so my pwo shake will look like this 1 liter of water, 50g of protein and 50g of dextrose, of oatmeal mix it together and got my pwo shake __________________ visit my myspace page www.myspace.com/xsquizet

01-15-2006, 12:51 AM	#15
Animosity New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 14 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Well Hybrid, I would say stick to Glucose as it has the highest GI for best replenishment. Regardless of what others say....I would recommend using 40-50 grams (more if you are a bigger guy) glucose and at least 40-50 grams of whey. For me dextrose couldn't be more convenient and makes my post-wo shake taste amazing. I think you are doing well with having dextrose immediately then a meal with low gi carbs an hour later. A lot of the old school guys do this and I think some people just get too caught up in trying to find new solutions that aren't really going to make a difference. For me, if its cheap, convenient, and has been proven to work, and has been used for years upon years, it is a great choice. This applies to most aspects of sports nutrition, it would be interesting to do a study on supplementation effectiveness over the last 10 years, although there is so much more shit out on the market there are only a few things that actually work. My vote is to stick with the glucose.

01-15-2006, 01:28 AM	#17
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,166 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 118	Basically, as explained to me by EME, on a bulk, since CHO intake is high all day long, immediately refilling your glycogen stores PWO isn't as important. On the other hand, on a cut, since CHO intake may be restricted during the day, a simple carb may be optimal to tap off ur muscles as quick as possible in order to remove bad chemicals such as cortisol. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition