The China Study

Nitrous · 12-28-2006, 09:14 PM

Has anyone here read it? opinions? comments?

ja_ke · 12-29-2006, 02:04 AM

whaaa?

**bubba g** · 12-29-2006, 02:13 AM

It is a book aboout health, and nutrition....

No I havn't read it... looks like another scam to me though.

Like those books that claim stuff like "Common household product that is more effective than the most powerful antibiotics, that the phamasutical companies don't want you to know about"

DJohnson · 12-29-2006, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba g

Like those books that claim stuff like "Common household product that is more effective than the most powerful antibiotics, that the phamasutical companies don't want you to know about"

LOL

Nitrous · 12-29-2006, 04:57 PM

lol its not though.. the guy isnt trying to sell you anything..

he provides you with a ton of information that all makes sense and if you look up any of the information in the book it is all true.. i am as sceptic as the next guy but it seems pretty legit to me

**bubba g** · 12-29-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitrous

lol its not though.. the guy isnt trying to sell you anything..

he provides you with a ton of information that all makes sense and if you look up any of the information in the book it is all true.. i am as sceptic as the next guy but it seems pretty legit to me

He is trying to sell something... his book...lol

Anyway.... could you give a couple of examples? Something that suprised you that you learned from the book..

Nitrous · 12-29-2006, 09:29 PM

i havent finished reading the whole book yet i'm only halfway through... but one interesting thing they were able to do with people and mice is inject them with aflatoxin (a strong carcinogenic) and while they ran normal diet and exercise get cancer...they said standard was about 20% of the calories coming from casein protein.. then by limiting their casein protein intake (coming from milk and or food) to only 5% of the total calories they were able to get rid of the cancer.. they could do this as much as they wanted to turn it on and off.. and this wasnt in one instance.. this was done in a number of different studies some including thousands of people.. and not only did it affect the cancer but also cholesterol levels and blood pressure and a number of different bad side effects in a positive way... And they werent simply limiting calories.. they were running identical calorie levels.. they were even able to digest more calories and an equivalent amount of protein (just from plant or whole food origin and not animal or dairy origin) and recieve the same results..

there are tons of other interesting facts in the book as well.. also he clearly goes into a lot more detail than i did

**powerman2000** · 01-01-2007, 09:02 AM

So casein protein causes cancer?

Nitrous · 01-01-2007, 11:48 PM

no... what he discovered was basically that it created a good environment for it.. the way he put it was something like carcinogenics are the gun and a bad diet is what pulls the trigger.. animal based diets (casein in particular) promotes the carcinogenics to cause cancer.. so by taking out casein or limiting it to 5% or less of the total calories they were able to prevent cancer from growing or if they already had it then they could get rid of it...

i'm not great at explaining it.. what i was hoping for was someone else to have read it and be able to give their opinion on it..

Nathan1 · 01-02-2007, 06:31 AM

i have read alot of it.

Nitrous · 01-02-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan1

i have read alot of it.

and whats your opinion on the book and the information he put out?

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12-29-2006, 02:04 AM	#2
ja_ke Pro Stature Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Allen Park, MI Posts: 209 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 8	whaaa?

12-29-2006, 02:13 AM	#3
bubba g Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,949 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 177	It is a book aboout health, and nutrition.... No I havn't read it... looks like another scam to me though. Like those books that claim stuff like "Common household product that is more effective than the most powerful antibiotics, that the phamasutical companies don't want you to know about"

12-29-2006, 04:57 PM	#5
Nitrous Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atown, BC Posts: 200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 12	lol its not though.. the guy isnt trying to sell you anything.. he provides you with a ton of information that all makes sense and if you look up any of the information in the book it is all true.. i am as sceptic as the next guy but it seems pretty legit to me

12-29-2006, 09:29 PM	#7
Nitrous Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atown, BC Posts: 200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 12	i havent finished reading the whole book yet i'm only halfway through... but one interesting thing they were able to do with people and mice is inject them with aflatoxin (a strong carcinogenic) and while they ran normal diet and exercise get cancer...they said standard was about 20% of the calories coming from casein protein.. then by limiting their casein protein intake (coming from milk and or food) to only 5% of the total calories they were able to get rid of the cancer.. they could do this as much as they wanted to turn it on and off.. and this wasnt in one instance.. this was done in a number of different studies some including thousands of people.. and not only did it affect the cancer but also cholesterol levels and blood pressure and a number of different bad side effects in a positive way... And they werent simply limiting calories.. they were running identical calorie levels.. they were even able to digest more calories and an equivalent amount of protein (just from plant or whole food origin and not animal or dairy origin) and recieve the same results.. there are tons of other interesting facts in the book as well.. also he clearly goes into a lot more detail than i did

01-01-2007, 11:48 PM	#9
Nitrous Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atown, BC Posts: 200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 12	no... what he discovered was basically that it created a good environment for it.. the way he put it was something like carcinogenics are the gun and a bad diet is what pulls the trigger.. animal based diets (casein in particular) promotes the carcinogenics to cause cancer.. so by taking out casein or limiting it to 5% or less of the total calories they were able to prevent cancer from growing or if they already had it then they could get rid of it... i'm not great at explaining it.. what i was hoping for was someone else to have read it and be able to give their opinion on it..

01-02-2007, 06:31 AM	#10
Nathan1 Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 152 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	i have read alot of it.