carbs in milk

A_N_91 · 07-12-2006, 12:52 AM

i know the carbs in milk are sugar but are they good for post-workout? i cant really afford maltodextrin and such but is milk good for post workout for my carbs?

also, is it good for having alte at night? i eat it at night because of the casein protien but i end up having 36 grams of its carbs too? is this ok?

Brent · 07-12-2006, 12:58 AM

I like milk and protein powder.
For a post workout shake you should have a faster protein like whey in water.
Before bed....Cottage cheese, oh yeah! This stuff does wonders for my metabolism. I always wake up super hungry in the morning when I eat cottage cheese before bed.

**DJSTARER** · 07-12-2006, 01:09 AM

I know EME once talked about using milk PWO on a bulk, but you'd have to firm that up with him. Lactose, completly IMO, is not the best source of carbs PWO, but it may be okay if you are trying to gain mass. Don't get me wrong... carbs are important PWO year round... but they are certainly more critical on a cut because you are limited in your carb intake throughout the rest of the day. Personally, I'd say do a scoop of whey, 8 oz of milk, and a cup of oats. You'll do well with that... maybe add an apple depending on ur size, goals and caloric needs.

AS for the bedtime thing... if you drink 3 glasses of milk (which it sounds like you are doing) you will be getting 24 grams of protein. 6 of those wil be casein, and the rest will be whey. You are way better off with a casein based dairy like cottage cheese or going with a lean meat such as Tuna, chicken, turkey, or lean meat.

My current before bed meal (cutting) either consists of 1 can of tuna, 1 whole egg raw, and 1 tbls olive oil.

A_N_91 · 07-12-2006, 03:30 AM

PWO i take milk along with some whey. so 1-2 cups milk and 2 scoops of whey is good for PWO? and before bed, tuna it is then.

**Pioneer** · 07-12-2006, 04:16 AM

i dont think their is anything unhealthy about skim milk.

Frank_the_tank · 07-12-2006, 04:49 AM

Lactose is a disaccharide composed of malactose and glucose (dextrose)

**powerman2000** · 07-12-2006, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by A_N_91

i know the carbs in milk are sugar but are they good for post-workout? i cant really afford maltodextrin and such but is milk good for post workout for my carbs?

also, is it good for having alte at night? i eat it at night because of the casein protien but i end up having 36 grams of its carbs too? is this ok?

Carbs in milk are pretty low for pwo nutrition. Also, I wouldn't drink milk myself for pwo nutrition since milk can inhibit nutrient absorption by leaving a coating on your intestine walls. Milk late at night isn't the best choice either because of the natural sugars. You won't get fatter by drinking it late at night, but if you are wanting to lose fat it definitely won't help that endeavor.

**powerman2000** · 07-12-2006, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pioneer

i dont think their is anything unhealthy about skim milk.

There really isn't, but even skim milk can leave a thin coating on your intestine walls that will inhibit nutrient absorption. It just isn't as bad as lowfat or whole milk in that regard.

**Pioneer** · 07-12-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

There really isn't, but even skim milk can leave a thin coating on your intestine walls that will inhibit nutrient absorption. It just isn't as bad as lowfat or whole milk in that regard.

nothing a lot of water and a black pepper pill cant fix

**Peaked_18** · 07-14-2006, 03:29 AM

Buy some dextrose.

**Fitnfirm** · 07-14-2006, 04:41 AM

I drink skim milk it has 12 carbs, I use it in my protein shakes. It is also a good source of calcium. But for post workout I use Regeneration X which has 20 carbs in it and 30 minutes later a protein shake with skim milk. If the rest of your diet is in check there should be no problems. It sure makes the shakes taste alot better

**DJSTARER** · 07-14-2006, 01:45 PM

Can someone buy lactase to add to their milk drinks or would adding a whey with extra lactase work just as well. I feel like if the extra digestive enzyme is added to milk, it makes the carbs far more effective

Frank_the_tank · 07-14-2006, 03:57 PM

I've never seen bulk lactase for sale. But you can buy capped lactase. In general the human body has a hard time with malactose. So additional lactase is not a bad idea at all.

**DJSTARER** · 07-14-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank_the_tank

I've never seen bulk lactase for sale. But you can buy capped lactase. In general the human body has a hard time with malactose. So additional lactase is not a bad idea at all.

yeah... that is kind of what I was thinking.

Thank you person(s)"Lactose Intolerant." That is your greatest contribution to this world.

**Sixpack** · 07-15-2006, 11:34 AM

Stick to low GI carbs postworkout inless you are a performance athlete IMO, You do not need malto etc postworkout.

grammo13 · 07-15-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sixpack

Stick to low GI carbs postworkout inless you are a performance athlete IMO, You do not need malto etc postworkout.

I agree, yes an insulin spike will transprot nutrients faster...but your body produces enough insulin with addition to the low GI carbs post workout

You should look into waxy maize starch. It aids as a great nutrient transport without having to use simple sugars to spike insulin

**DJSTARER** · 07-15-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by grammo13

I agree, yes an insulin spike will transprot nutrients faster...but your body produces enough insulin with addition to the low GI carbs post workout

You should look into waxy maize starch. It aids as a great nutrient transport without having to use simple sugars to spike insulin

oooo, nice.

I like they way this cat jives....

Didn't know that.

**powerman2000** · 07-16-2006, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sixpack

Stick to low GI carbs postworkout inless you are a performance athlete IMO, You do not need malto etc postworkout.

Ummm, doesn't everybody want to be able to 'perform' at their highest level during every workout???

Don't really see what being a "performance" athlete has to do with it. We all want to be at our best for every workout to get the most out of each training bout.

**Sixpack** · 07-16-2006, 03:20 PM

An athlete as in College football, basketball player's glycogen will get much more depleated then a weight lifter IMO who does an hour workout . No need to spike insulin. Get a good preworkout meal 1 hour before hadn come home chill for 45min or have a normal meal afterwards.

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

Ummm, doesn't everybody want to be able to 'perform' at their highest level during every workout???

Don't really see what being a "performance" athlete has to do with it. We all want to be at our best for every workout to get the most out of each training bout.

07-12-2006, 12:52 AM	#1
A_N_91 Pro Stature Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 849 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	carbs in milk i know the carbs in milk are sugar but are they good for post-workout? i cant really afford maltodextrin and such but is milk good for post workout for my carbs? also, is it good for having alte at night? i eat it at night because of the casein protien but i end up having 36 grams of its carbs too? is this ok?

07-12-2006, 12:58 AM	#2
Brent Pro Stature Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ND Posts: 367 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	I like milk and protein powder. For a post workout shake you should have a faster protein like whey in water. Before bed....Cottage cheese, oh yeah! This stuff does wonders for my metabolism. I always wake up super hungry in the morning when I eat cottage cheese before bed. __________________ Brent@AnabolicX.com NEW! Anabolic Xtreme Forum!

07-12-2006, 01:09 AM	#3
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 3,978 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 113	I know EME once talked about using milk PWO on a bulk, but you'd have to firm that up with him. Lactose, completly IMO, is not the best source of carbs PWO, but it may be okay if you are trying to gain mass. Don't get me wrong... carbs are important PWO year round... but they are certainly more critical on a cut because you are limited in your carb intake throughout the rest of the day. Personally, I'd say do a scoop of whey, 8 oz of milk, and a cup of oats. You'll do well with that... maybe add an apple depending on ur size, goals and caloric needs. AS for the bedtime thing... if you drink 3 glasses of milk (which it sounds like you are doing) you will be getting 24 grams of protein. 6 of those wil be casein, and the rest will be whey. You are way better off with a casein based dairy like cottage cheese or going with a lean meat such as Tuna, chicken, turkey, or lean meat. My current before bed meal (cutting) either consists of 1 can of tuna, 1 whole egg raw, and 1 tbls olive oil. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

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07-14-2006, 01:45 PM	#12
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 3,978 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 113	Can someone buy lactase to add to their milk drinks or would adding a whey with extra lactase work just as well. I feel like if the extra digestive enzyme is added to milk, it makes the carbs far more effective __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

07-12-2006, 03:30 AM	#4
A_N_91 Pro Stature Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 849 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	PWO i take milk along with some whey. so 1-2 cups milk and 2 scoops of whey is good for PWO? and before bed, tuna it is then.

07-12-2006, 04:49 AM	#6
Frank_the_tank Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 404 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 7	Lactose is a disaccharide composed of malactose and glucose (dextrose)

07-14-2006, 03:29 AM	#10
Peaked_18 a la commode Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,297 Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96	Buy some dextrose.

07-14-2006, 04:41 AM	#11
Fitnfirm Spanky Doodle ! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Muscle Land Posts: 1,829 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 45	I drink skim milk it has 12 carbs, I use it in my protein shakes. It is also a good source of calcium. But for post workout I use Regeneration X which has 20 carbs in it and 30 minutes later a protein shake with skim milk. If the rest of your diet is in check there should be no problems. It sure makes the shakes taste alot better

07-14-2006, 03:57 PM	#13
Frank_the_tank Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 404 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 7	I've never seen bulk lactase for sale. But you can buy capped lactase. In general the human body has a hard time with malactose. So additional lactase is not a bad idea at all.

07-15-2006, 11:34 AM	#15
Sixpack Optimum Sponsored athlete Join Date: May 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 870 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 15	Stick to low GI carbs postworkout inless you are a performance athlete IMO, You do not need malto etc postworkout. __________________ ["Tough Times Don't Last But Tough People Do" My Pops RIP http://www.optimumnutrition.com/ "Fueling your desire for success" www.rippedacadamy.com Mod-massmonsterz.com ISSA certified