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Old 01-17-2006, 07:45 PM   #31
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Lower the carbs, increase the protein.
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Old 01-17-2006, 10:45 PM   #32
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Lower the carbs, increase the protein.

really? you think? I would disagree. Maybe I am missing something... but i think all of the excess cardio would burn mostly "energy." I know the body uses muscle tissue for energy also, but at an almost insignificant rate as long as you have solid pre and post cardio nutrition.

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Old 01-18-2006, 01:21 PM   #33
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wieghed in at 185 today


yesterdays diet went as followed

Meal 1- 6:00 AM
2 eggs
2 pices of toast with natural pb
banana
carrots
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 oz flax


Meal 2- 8:30 am
Wardog Weight Gain Bar (469 cals 26 gram fat(good fats from pb) 21 grams carb 28 gram protein)( i sometimes replace this with 8oz of lean meat when i can)
30 pistachio's
banana
2 cup rice
carrots

Meal 3- 10:10 am
Turkey Sandwhich(2 pices of bread, 4 oz of turkey, Lettuce, Tomato)
Yogurt
Apple
28 almonds(or walnuts)
1 tsp olive oil
.25 cups quinoa

Meal 4( PRE WORKOUT)-2:30pm
2 cups of rice
4 oz lean meat
carrots

Meal 5(Pre pre workout) 3:30
Xtend

Meal 6(POST WORKOUT)-6:00 pm
1 cup oatmeal
Protein Shake(Glutimine)
Xtend
Apple
Anti Oxidents
.25 cups quiona


Meal 7- 7:30

Mahi Mahi
2 sweetpotato
Salad(spinach, Tomatoes, Shiitake Mushrooms, Broccoli, Flaxseeds)
1 tsp olive oil

Meal 8- 9:00-10:00

Casein Protein Shake
1 tablespoon olive oil
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 cup green beans


Calories 7050
Fat 269 34%
Carbs 875 47%
Protein 330 18%
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Old 01-18-2006, 09:26 PM   #34
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2.5lbs gain in about a week, not bad.:nosthumbs
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Calories 7050
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Carbs 875 47%
Protein 330 18%
very impressive :excorcist
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Old 01-18-2006, 09:57 PM   #36
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1/10 182.5
1/11 183
1/12 185
1/13 182
1/15 184
1/17 184.5
1/18 185


2.5 lbs in a week

yea i think ill eat 6800 cals for another week and see were i sit

I will start taking my wieght on the school scale after school before wrestling as well because that is the wieght that matters...
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Old 01-20-2006, 01:55 PM   #37
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weighed in at 185.5 today

yesterdays diet was
Meal 1- 6:00 AM
banana
carrots
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 oz flax
1 cup quinoa

Meal 2- 8:30 am
Wardog Weight Gain Bar (469 cals 26 gram fat(good fats from pb) 21 grams carb 28 gram protein)( i sometimes replace this with 8oz of lean meat when i can)
30 pistachio's
banana
2 cup rice
carrots

Meal 3- 10:10 am
Turkey Sandwhich(2 pices of bread, 4 oz of turkey, Lettuce, Tomato)
Yogurt
Apple
28 almonds(or walnuts)
1 tsp olive oil
.25 cups quinoa

Meal 4( PRE WORKOUT)-2:30pm
2 cups of rice
4 oz lean meat
carrots

Meal 5(Pre pre workout) 3:30
Xtend

Meal 6(POST WORKOUT)-6:00 pm
1 cup oatmeal
Protein Shake(Glutimine)
Xtend
Apple
Anti Oxidents
.25 cups quiona


Meal 7- 7:30

.5 chicken breast
2 sweetpotato
Salad(spinach, Tomatoes, Shiitake Mushrooms, Broccoli, Flaxseeds)
1 tsp olive oil

Meal 8- 9:00-10:00

Casein Protein Shake
1 tablespoon olive oil
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 cup green beans


Calories 6819
Fat 237 31%
Carbs 923 52%
Protein 291 17%
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weighed in at 185.5 today

yesterdays diet was
Meal 1- 6:00 AM
banana
carrots
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 oz flax
1 cup quinoa

Meal 2- 8:30 am
Wardog Weight Gain Bar (469 cals 26 gram fat(good fats from pb) 21 grams carb 28 gram protein)( i sometimes replace this with 8oz of lean meat when i can)
30 pistachio's
banana
2 cup rice
carrots

Meal 3- 10:10 am
Turkey Sandwhich(2 pices of bread, 4 oz of turkey, Lettuce, Tomato)
Yogurt
Apple
28 almonds(or walnuts)
1 tsp olive oil
.25 cups quinoa

Meal 4( PRE WORKOUT)-2:30pm
2 cups of rice
4 oz lean meat
carrots

Meal 5(Pre pre workout) 3:30
Xtend

Meal 6(POST WORKOUT)-6:00 pm
1 cup oatmeal
Protein Shake(Glutimine)
Xtend
Apple
Anti Oxidents
.25 cups quiona


Meal 7- 7:30

.5 chicken breast
2 sweetpotato
Salad(spinach, Tomatoes, Shiitake Mushrooms, Broccoli, Flaxseeds)
1 tsp olive oil

Meal 8- 9:00-10:00

Casein Protein Shake
1 tablespoon olive oil
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 cup green beans


Calories 6819
Fat 237 31%
Carbs 923 52%
Protein 291 17%
a lotta cals comeing in, thats awesome :nosthumbs
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Old 01-20-2006, 08:20 PM   #39
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really? you think? I would disagree. Maybe I am missing something... but i think all of the excess cardio would burn mostly "energy." I know the body uses muscle tissue for energy also, but at an almost insignificant rate as long as you have solid pre and post cardio nutrition.

What am I missing?
Don't worry I understand as an athlete what is needed. Lower the carbohydrates down a little bit (honestly 900 grams will just make you fat, lower it in the 700-800g per day). And one reason he may or may not be gaining weight is he is getting in the 1.5g per lb. of bodyweight in protein and stalled out on that...maybe one should increase protein intake (along with water intake) to make the gains.
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Old 01-20-2006, 11:49 PM   #40
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see the thing is i was eating around 6000 cals with 40% fat(well over 400 grams) and didnt make any gains


I always drink 1-2 gallons of water a day...
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Old 01-21-2006, 12:10 AM   #41
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Don't worry I understand as an athlete what is needed. Lower the carbohydrates down a little bit (honestly 900 grams will just make you fat, lower it in the 700-800g per day). And one reason he may or may not be gaining weight is he is getting in the 1.5g per lb. of bodyweight in protein and stalled out on that...maybe one should increase protein intake (along with water intake) to make the gains.
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Old 01-22-2006, 12:48 PM   #42
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i wieghed in at 188.5 yesterday morning
and 188 this morning

once i hit 191 in the morn im going to switch to a lower carb higher protein diet
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bigD, i am in shock that you still aren't packing on serious pounds. If I ate like that I would gain 10lbs (of fat) a week, no joke. Your metabolism is crazy
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as of right now this is my favorite thread, good job man
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thanks for the suport guys. Im glad you like this thread
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