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Old 04-10-2006, 03:43 AM   #31
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WOW!!!!!!! thats so great to hear about hubby!!!!! And he will see a big improvement by giving up beer! I know how much work it is doing the meals as now Viper and I eat very different menus and all I do is cook my ass off! Which reminds me I still have to do his lunch

You can try to get him on this board!!!!!!! Get him motivated!!!!!!!!! Let him mingle with the big boys

You should get your butt over to BBB, its another board I have a log at cause they are looking for more testers for DS, Im doing the Xceed already but you may be able to do basic cuts, or lean extreme or something,its your choice on that board!!!!!!!!! Here is the link:http://www.bodybuildingbeyond.com/in...?showtopic=708

You will have to log it there like I do though, I do 3 sites, I just copy it though its not much work.
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Well, the deed is finally done and after much decision and 2 shopping carts full of supps, I am looking forward to the following goodies to come this week:

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You should get your butt over to BBB, its another board I have a log at cause they are looking for more testers for DS, Im doing the Xceed already but you may be able to do basic cuts, or lean extreme or something,its your choice on that board!!!!!!!!! Here is the link:http://www.bodybuildingbeyond.com/in...?showtopic=708

You will have to log it there like I do though, I do 3 sites, I just copy it though its not much work.
Thanks for the tip. I did check it out but I wanted to order my stuff now so I can start and it probably better not to commit to a sponsored log right now, especially on a 3rd board. Two is already more than enough. I am debating whether to keep going on BB.com after the MP log is over. I am torn. Ijust have alot going on and I am the type of person that would not sign up for something unless I could give it 100%.
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BF down to 28 today!? Not holding my breath, but it was nice to see, even if temporary. Gotta get it measured by caliper again this week to compare with start.

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OFF - Missed weights today will try to make up later in week. Did pick up some heavier dumbbells for home which will give me more options if I miss or want to do some extra at home.

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Slept little/none last night, too crazy at work to leave at lunch time and had to leave early to get the boys, get dinner, go grocery shopping, put them to bed and clean the house before Hubby got back from his trip. Finally - wo-hoo! Of course, as expected he brought me back another tiny t-shirt. This one is so cute, it is pink! And is says Sin City across the front with little devil horns on the "S" heheh Muhahaha So although I didn't get a workout earlier, it has been a very nice evening so far and I am hoping to get in a little um, "cardio" later hehe

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By far, the best kind of exercise. I recommend it daily for best results hehe
not only is it good for your health...its fantastic for your marriage! AND its the only cardio i do not hate with a passion! LMAO
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Better than expected workout today. Had limited time at lunch so decided to see what could be done with just 1 40lb set of dumbbells, a weight bench and a floor mat. I was surprised to find out..alot! I did the workout linked above with 20 and 15 lb dumbbells, and a few additional exercises, some calesthenics and abs added. I even tried incline situps! They were tough but I managed to get a few and was feeling kinda GI Jane Didn't get to my step class in the evening as planned due to family stuff.


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Warning: Today's entry is extremely verbose...Hubby says I have a daily "verbal quota" and run off at the mouth if I don't get enought talking in. Guess I didn't say enough earlier today LOL

BF Update:
29.7 % by caliper (Down 1.1 from start caliper of 30.8)

I have to say that I was really disappointed to see that my BF did not go down much since I started my MP log on 2/23/06. This means that at this BF and weight of 165.2, I have 49.06 lbs of fat and 116.14 lbs of LBM. So, theoretically if I were to keep my LBM and get to down as low as 21% BF, I would still weigh 140 lbs. I am ok if scale is higher and I am leaner but I am not seeing that hypothetical happening, the numbers just don't add up and my BF is still way up.

After the fitness specialist measured me, she gave me a report and asked about my goals. She told me that I would not ever get to 125 unless I stop weight training and then I would be skinny with no muscle. She is the second person to tell me my goal in not realistic. I am not easily discouraged but I can't help but question it when I look at the match. She did say I may look like I weigh that as I get leaner from the weight training and fat loss. She suggested yoga to "lean out" my muscles if I don't want to look "bulky" like a gymnast. She said I need to do minimum of 40-45 min of cardio per session, 20-30 is not burning any fat and should do 5 times a week and stay in target heart range. Also says I shouldn't run if I want to burn fat and maybe reduce weights to 2x per week. Is it just me or does some of this not sound right? What about burning so many calories running and boosting you rmetabolism for hours after - some % of calories must be from fat? If I stay in target heart range I don't get a workout. The major changes I've made have been from lifting heavy, I lost almost 10 lbs and imagine I must have also gained some muscle - when I did cardio and little lifting I never had such rapid improvements...I am confused.

Sorry this is so long but someone out there tell me - is any of this true from your experience? I am just not buying it but see the need to do something different to lower bodyfat. I will do whatever it takes to get it down if I have to do cardio 2 x a day, but at this point I am not sure what I really need to do to make that happen. Sorry so long but I need some advice...help! Trying to think positive and be constructive with this because earlier I beyond pissed off, at her, at myself...but I am now zen-like . Despite this I had a great day and just want to keep positive and keep moving forward but would appreciate any feedback related to lowering BF. Thanks

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Well, I guess I did let it get to me a little...I self-medicated with....chocolate See cheat on Cadbury Mini-eggs below.. I will have to repent for this one big time tommorrow.

Great thing happened as far as supplements, I got my UPS early! So I got to try Basic Cuts and Xceed pre-workout!! I was so excited and I think that is what made me mad aslo was it took so long getting body fat done and talking to the woman that I missed my window and did not get the desired effect with Xceed. I could feel it working when I was sitting there but seemed like it went away by the time I got to work out (~ 2 hrs after I took it) So I will have to try it again next time. I will say that I didn't like the taste at first, was kind of bitter, but I think it was because I didn't have enough water mixed in. The directions didn't say how much. Once I added more it tasted better. And BC was great, same warm, happy-type feeling as last time I tried. And boy I sweated alot! Very thirsty too.




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Good worknout. Not my best but considering events leading up to it and the fact that I have not been for a while I did pretty good. Was a little sore from Dumbbell workout yesterday but did all my sets anyway. Gym was kind of busy so it took longer than expected but one very nice thing happened. For the first time since I started someone actually came up and was friendly and said hello. It was a pretty buff guy I had seen around alot and he was so nice! He asked how long I had been working out because I looked really fit and looked like I was doing well with the weights. We talked about our kids and he offered to help me any time to learn new equipment or anything. I thought that was so sweet. Usually people are just to themselves and you see same people every day and don;t know who they are. So because FnF raves about them, I asked him to show me hanging leg raises. The rack-type thing you can hand from with your elbows looks ok so I will try that next time, but OMG the hanging contraption in the main weight room where it hangs off the pull-up bar with these wide strap type things!! I can just see myself falling out of those right on my ass! LOL But just you Fnf, I wil be doing them next time I go on the rack type thing. I know it is gonna hurt so good!!!





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After the fitness specialist measured me, she gave me a report and asked about my goals. She told me that I would not ever get to 125 unless I stop weight training and then I would be skinny with no muscle. She is the second person to tell me my goal in not realistic. I am not easily discouraged but I can't help but question it when I look at the match. She did say I may look like I weigh that as I get leaner from the weight training and fat loss. She suggested yoga to "lean out" my muscles if I don't want to look "bulky" like a gymnast. She said I need to do minimum of 40-45 min of cardio per session, 20-30 is not burning any fat and should do 5 times a week and stay in target heart range. Also says I shouldn't run if I want to burn fat and maybe reduce weights to 2x per week. Is it just me or does some of this not sound right? What about burning so many calories running and boosting you rmetabolism for hours after - some % of calories must be from fat? If I stay in target heart range I don't get a workout. The major changes I've made have been from lifting heavy, I lost almost 10 lbs and imagine I must have also gained some muscle - when I did cardio and little lifting I never had such rapid improvements...I am confused.

Sorry this is so long but someone out there tell me - is any of this true from your experience? I am just not buying it but see the need to do something different to lower bodyfat. I will do whatever it takes to get it down if I have to do cardio 2 x a day, but at this point I am not sure what I really need to do to make that happen. Sorry so long but I need some advice...help! Trying to think positive and be constructive with this because earlier I beyond pissed off, at her, at myself...but I am now zen-like . Despite this I had a great day and just want to keep positive and keep moving forward but would appreciate any feedback related to lowering BF. Thanks
Um, she sounds crackers to me. Like all the female trainers in my gym. First of all, they look like recovering annorexics who are addicted to marathons. SUPER thin, I mean *emaciated* with no muscle definition anywhere except a little on their shoulders - except sometimes it just looks like the bone poking through. They ALL believe that I should do an hour of cardio six times per week and follow a light weight lifting routine that focuses on body weight since, in their words, the "most important thing right now is to lose some of that weight" and you know, *then* I'm allowed to lift before cardio (what the peanut? If I'm tired, won't I have cruddy form and risk injury? Oh wait... not if I'm doing the sooper special routine to follow).

Body weight *can* be very effective. I was in the Army, I remember. But not the way THESE chick-a-dees do it. OH NO. :crazy1: I've been a member of my gym for five months, and I've watch all the trainers doing their own workouts and working out with clients.

Their idea of weight training is:
20 minutes of back-arching, overly tough ab work (nothing for the back though, that might make sense)
1 or 2 sets leg work
1 tricep exercise (no one wants bye-bye flappy arms, after all)

I have yet to see a female trainer lift a free weight. I have seen them use medicine balls - but only during their marathon abdominal sessions. The results are... not impressive.

"Fat Burning" cardio. Well, there are two sides to my knowledge. First, your body does start using fat as fuel at a lower activity level. If you go over that level, you aren't burning *stored* fat - you are buring sugars. Running can lead to fat loss, in that when you burn up all the sugar in your blood during exercise, later on your body will theoretically turn to stored fat for energy. The main reason not to run (as opposed to fast walking) is that after you burn the sugar floating free in your blood your body will go to stored sugars for a fast source of energy - and that means sugars stored in your muscles - and that means you can lose muscle "mass." Notice that most distance runners have a certain physique, which is relatively narrow? On the other hand, if you want to get to 125 then running might not be bad. The women I know who have lost a lot of weight swear by running - but running is *weight* loss and not necessarily *fat* loss.

I could be way off here, but this is years of diet and running knowledge... I'm not as good with weight lifting science.

I intend to run because I like to run and because (when I am able to) I can. My father and I share a joy in running... but my family history involves having non-functional knees by age 50. Maybe I'll be able to do better, maybe not. But I'd like to run while I can, because I can. I absolutely love how it makes me feel.

As for your goals - my original goal was 138, which is 120 pounds lighter than my highest weight. If my body fat analysis is correct, I currently have 144lbs of lean mass... so even though I may lose some muscle, I may want to aim for 150-160 but low body fat. I have this complicated excel spread on what proportion of lean to fat I would have at various weights and how much of each I would need to lose... When I saw that I would have to plan on losing 1/3 of my pounds from lean mass in order to reach my goal weight and BF%, I raised my goal weight. I say see what the future brings. Maybe set an interim goal.
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After the fitness specialist measured me, she gave me a report and asked about my goals. She told me that I would not ever get to 125 unless I stop weight training and then I would be skinny with no muscle. She is the second person to tell me my goal in not realistic.

I would not focus on your weight as a goal. Rather, focus on achieving a low bodyfat percentage and muscular physique. Just tweak your workouts to get the look you want: not muscular enough, lift heavier; too muscular, lift lighter. But, always keep lifting in your program as it is key to an attractive, healthy physique. Too many women focus on a certain weight they want to achieve and its the wrong way to go about setting goals.

I am not easily discouraged but I can't help but question it when I look at the match. She did say I may look like I weigh that as I get leaner from the weight training and fat loss. She suggested yoga to "lean out" my muscles if I don't want to look "bulky" like a gymnast.

Yoga is cool, but really all you have to do is lift lighter and use higher reps if you don't want to avoid being bulky. Don't stop lifting for yoga.

She said I need to do minimum of 40-45 min of cardio per session, 20-30 is not burning any fat and should do 5 times a week and stay in target heart range.

She's right about the duration of your cardio, unless you're doing something like HIIT, but at least 30 minutes at a high intensity, 4-5 times a week is good. I assume she's telling you to stay in what is considered the "fat burning zone" of you target heart range, well that's b.s. There are plenty of studies that show high intensity cardio training is superior to low intensity for burning fat. Heck, I don't even feel like I'm doing any work at all in the fat burning zone.

Also says I shouldn't run if I want to burn fat and maybe reduce weights to 2x per week. Is it just me or does some of this not sound right? What about burning so many calories running and boosting you rmetabolism for hours after - some % of calories must be from fat? If I stay in target heart range I don't get a workout. The major changes I've made have been from lifting heavy, I lost almost 10 lbs and imagine I must have also gained some muscle - when I did cardio and little lifting I never had such rapid improvements...I am confused.

Running is a fine form of cardio if your joints can take it. Reducing weight training frequency isn't necessary. As I said, go by how you look and if you're too bulky for your taste reduce your poundages and increase the reps. It isn't important whether your body uses fat or muscle glycogen (sugars) for energy during your cardio sessions, just that you did it and the calories get burned. If you burn more fat during cardio, the body preferentially burns sugars more throughout the remainder of the day; if you burn more sugars during cardio, your body preferentially oxidizes more fat throughout the day -- it balances out. I don't feel target heart range either; as I said, it's bs. Stay lifting heavy, don't worry about getting too bulky, it is not easy for women to build tremendous bulk without using steroids. Most women will stay feminine and attractive while lifting heavy -- look at fitness models and competitors

Sorry this is so long but someone out there tell me - is any of this true from your experience? I am just not buying it but see the need to do something different to lower bodyfat. I will do whatever it takes to get it down if I have to do cardio 2 x a day, but at this point I am not sure what I really need to do to make that happen. Sorry so long but I need some advice...help! Trying to think positive and be constructive with this because earlier I beyond pissed off, at her, at myself...but I am now zen-like . Despite this I had a great day and just want to keep positive and keep moving forward but would appreciate any feedback related to lowering BF. Thanks
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