New Breed of Beast - Page 4

dnyc99 · 07-04-2007, 01:45 PM

Hey there Bill....wow you've got yourself a nice workout journal here. I love the details and all the info.

I have to try that "Sludge Pudding" you've mentioned. Gotta crack the whip on DF to order our protein powder already. Miss my Chocolate Champion Whey.

About calves...I'm pretty lucky there...got good genetics on that part. Speaking of Calves...DOMS starting to set in now...by tomorrow my calves are gonna be aching...but,I guess it's all good. Funny how I actually like DOMS - kinda lets me know I've worked my muscles hard.

Have a great day Bill.

~D~

pammiejoe6 · 07-04-2007, 01:50 PM

DOMS RULE!!! :mango:

Bill_Finkbiner · 07-05-2007, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dnyc99

Hey there Bill....wow you've got yourself a nice workout journal here. I love the details and all the info.

I have to try that "Sludge Pudding" you've mentioned. Gotta crack the whip on DF to order our protein powder already. Miss my Chocolate Champion Whey.

About calves...I'm pretty lucky there...got good genetics on that part. Speaking of Calves...DOMS starting to set in now...by tomorrow my calves are gonna be aching...but,I guess it's all good. Funny how I actually like DOMS - kinda lets me know I've worked my muscles hard.

Have a great day Bill.

~D~

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Originally Posted by pammiejoe6

DOMS RULE!!! :mango:

You are both more masochistic than me. Before I started using Xtend, I would get severe Pain for up to four days after working a muscle group. My legs were the worst. They would be sore to the touch, and feel like they were ripping when I bent down, or over to pick something up. It made it impossible to do seated calf raises on any day after legs, because I couldn't stand the pad pushing into my quads. A bit of DOMS is ok, but this was too much. When I started using Xtend, I didn't even know that it helped to eleviate DOMS. I just wanted some BCAA that wouldn't make my shakes taste like crap, and noticed over on Bodyspace that most people whose physiques I admired listed Xtend as one of their suppliments.

dnyc99 · 07-05-2007, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill_Finkbiner

You are both more masochistic than me. Before I started using Xtend, I would get severe Pain for up to four days after working a muscle group. My legs were the worst. They would be sore to the touch, and feel like they were ripping when I bent down, or over to pick something up. It made it impossible to do seated calf raises on any day after legs, because I couldn't stand the pad pushing into my quads. A bit of DOMS is ok, but this was too much. When I started using Xtend, I didn't even know that it helped to eleviate DOMS. I just wanted some BCAA that wouldn't make my shakes taste like crap, and noticed over on Bodyspace that most people whose physiques I admired listed Xtend as one of their suppliments.

Wow...DF and I like to poke and squeeze each others sore muscles from DOMS...especially cause we work the same body parts. That's masochisn for ya! LoL

So Xtend helps alleviate DOMS? I had no idea. DF takes it but, I didn't think it would do me any good. I MUST order some now. I'll be invincible!! hehe

Thanks for the tip Bill.

TTYL.

~D~

dnyc99 · 07-05-2007, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pammiejoe6

DOMS RULE!!! :mango:

LOL!!

Bill_Finkbiner · 07-05-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dnyc99

Wow...DF and I like to poke and squeeze each others sore muscles from DOMS...especially cause we work the same body parts. That's masochisn for ya! LoL

So Xtend helps alleviate DOMS? I had no idea. DF takes it but, I didn't think it would do me any good. I MUST order some now. I'll be invincible!! hehe

Thanks for the tip Bill.

TTYL.

~D~

I love Xtend. I also have to put this disclaimer out from time to time. I started using Scivtion/Primaforce products, and training before becoming sponsored by them. The sponsorship was a total surprise to me. I use them because they work, and for the most part are less expensive than the mass marketed brands. Right now, Derek aka Beast has been on an epublishing tear as he's put out like three ebooks on diet and training in the last few months. Also Marc, aka Scivation, has just decided that he want to be a natural level NPC competitor with the ultimate goal of making it to IFBB pro. When he acheives this he will be the first pro to own suppliment company BEFORE he turned pro. The man motivates me beyond belief.

**MacTech** · 07-05-2007, 01:25 AM

I like to add some extra Glutamine and Citrulline Malate to my Xtend cocktail that I sip on during training. I certainly feel DOMS when I don't get enough of it, which isn't often.

I am looking for the best price as I am increasing my intake of it and need some more soon.

Bill_Finkbiner · 07-05-2007, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MacTech

I like to add some extra Glutamine and Citrulline Malate to my Xtend cocktail that I sip on during training. I certainly feel DOMS when I don't get enough of it, which isn't often.

I am looking for the best price as I am increasing my intake of it and need some more soon.

If I remember correctly, Primforce Citrulline Malate should be out in about 2 weeks.

Bill_Finkbiner · 07-05-2007, 06:56 AM

Wednesday is cardio day on my new routine. I warmed up on the recumbant bike for 5 mins and then did 15 30 sec HIIT sprints. These were blissful torture as usual, but different. I think the Beta-Alanine is really helping here. I was able to sprint a t a higher speed for a longer amount of time during each interval. I followed this with 15 mis on the treadmill at a lower incline than usual due to my legs being TIGHT from the HIIT.

The next part is not from my program, but I've got an obsession with training abs.

Cable
crunches
100x30
100x10

Oblique Crunches
100 (50 each side)

Seated Twists
30x200 (100 each side)

Thursday is upper body day with higher reps. Gonna get some Cannon Ball Delts!!!

pammiejoe6 · 07-05-2007, 02:03 PM

im gonna try DCP first and then maybe ill try the Xtend....

**Crader** · 07-05-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pammiejoe6

im gonna try DCP first and then maybe ill try the Xtend....

You go girl!!! I'm on the Extend as well its really good stuff. Feeds your muscles while you workout. Tastes good too.

Bill Your still doing great. I'm going to try your sludge. I'm at the point now in my weightloss where even after I eat I'm hungry a half four later. How do you work around that starving all the time feeling when you start dropping down?

Bill_Finkbiner · 07-05-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crader

You go girl!!! I'm on the Extend as well its really good stuff. Feeds your muscles while you workout. Tastes good too.

Bill Your still doing great. I'm going to try your sludge. I'm at the point now in my weightloss where even after I eat I'm hungry a half four later. How do you work around that starving all the time feeling when you start dropping down?

I honestly was rarely hungry during my 16 week on the Cut Diet. Eating a cup to a cup and ahlf of fiberous vegtables every 2-3 hours helps keep the hunger down. I was also drinking about 2-2.5 gallons of water a day, so my stomache was pretty full.

Bill_Finkbiner · 07-06-2007, 12:41 AM

Todays workout was great. My lats are already sore. VasoXplode was great while dieting, but now that I'm using it with some full glycogen stores, it is amazing. I'm continuing to pose between sets, because you can never be to good at posing, and also that extra squeeze is just another isometric exercise that many of the golden agers believed help bring out separation. Today's pump made me look like a FREAK. The new goal for the Clash is to look as full as I did today with better conditioning and dryer than the Show-Me's.

Incline DB Press Close Parallel Grip Lat Pulldowns
45x12 warmup / 130x10 warmup
60x10 / 150x10
70x10 / 160x10
70x10 / 170x10

Flat DB Bench Medium Parallel Grip Seated Row
40x10 warm up / 150x10 warmup
70x10 / 190x10
70x9.5 / 190x10
70x9 / 190x10
I reall liked the medium grip as it hit all of my back equally. Inner/outer/upper/lower. Felt great.

Seated DB Shoulder Press Seated DB Shrugs
45x10 / 90x10
50x10 / 90x10
50x10 / 90x10
I chose to do the seated shrugs, because I get a better stretch and it is impossible to cheat.

DB Side Laterals
30x10
30x10
30x10
I took the rest times down on these and went for the pump and burn.

1 Arm Cable Laterals
40x10 cable behind back
40x10 cable in front
40x10 cable behind back
Again, rests were short. These are rapidly becoming one of my favorite movements. They KILL my medial delts and give me a SICK PUMP. It may take a while, but I'd like to have the mythical 2 to 1 shoulder to waist ratio. I know that my collar bones are pretty narrow, so its all about building these delts.

My ending strength goals for this workout:
Incline DB Press 85x10
Flat DB Press 80x10
Lat Pulldowns 190x10
Seated Row 205x10
Seated DB Press 60x10
Seated Shrugs 100x10

Laterals and 1 arm cable laterals are form exercises. I hope to advance the weight, but perfecting the form is key

After lifting I took 3 Dialene4 waited 10 minutes and di 30 mins of treadmill 21% incline speed 35.-4.2 Sweat like a monsoon.

Bill_Finkbiner · 07-07-2007, 01:49 PM

here's yesterday's workout:

Feet Together Hack Squat Standing Calf Raise
2 plates+25x10 / 135x10
2 plates+35x10 / 135x10
3 platesx10 / 135x10
It has been awhile since I've done hack squats and I misjudged the weight today. I will go heavier next time. I chose to do them with my feet together to focus on my outer sweep.

Leg Press Leg Press Calf Raise
550x10 / 450x10
550x10 / 495x10
550x10 / 495x10
While leg pressing I began to notice my left leg pushing more of the load than the right. If this continues next week, I will change to a single leg press.

Leg Extentions Leg Curl
180x10 / 110x12
185x12 / 110x12
185x12 / 110x12

Skull Crushers Db Curls
65x10 / 40x10
65x10 / 40x10
65x10 / 40x10

Leg Raises Incline Crunches
20x10 / 25 12
20x12 / 35x12
20x12 / 35x12

Then it was some D4 and 20 mins on the treadmill 21% incline speed 3.5-4.2

One thing that I've noticed over the past few week, is that the delivery guys for the companies that supply the Diner have HUGE calves. I'm pretty sure it's from the many times a day they push product up and down the ramps of their trucks. I need to find a way to duplicate that on the treadmill, or by some other means, because everyone of these guys has HUGE calves.

**Crader** · 07-07-2007, 05:00 PM

One thing that I've noticed over the past few week, is that the delivery guys for the companies that supply the Diner have HUGE calves. I'm pretty sure it's from the many times a day they push product up and down the ramps of their trucks. I need to find a way to duplicate that on the treadmill, or by some other means, because everyone of these guys has HUGE calves.

Can you do powerlifting sled pulls?

Bill_Finkbiner · 07-07-2007, 10:26 PM

I think I'm going to just put the treadmill on the highest incline and see how long I can hold on and go. Or do intervals of the highest incline to the decline and back up. It's not just that I was looking for a new calf exercise, but the fact that I noticed a trend from guys in that line of work and wanted to see if i was right, and get some calves that are bigger than my arms.

07-04-2007, 01:45 PM	#91
dnyc99 IMPC Contestant Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,025 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 184	Re: New Breed of Beast Hey there Bill....wow you've got yourself a nice workout journal here. I love the details and all the info. I have to try that "Sludge Pudding" you've mentioned. Gotta crack the whip on DF to order our protein powder already. Miss my Chocolate Champion Whey. About calves...I'm pretty lucky there...got good genetics on that part. Speaking of Calves...DOMS starting to set in now...by tomorrow my calves are gonna be aching...but,I guess it's all good. Funny how I actually like DOMS - kinda lets me know I've worked my muscles hard. Have a great day Bill. ~D~ __________________

07-04-2007, 01:50 PM	#92
pammiejoe6 Pink Members Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: south texas Posts: 4,172 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 85	Re: New Breed of Beast DOMS RULE!!! :mango:

07-05-2007, 01:25 AM	#97
MacTech IronMassoholic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: State of well being Posts: 439 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 35	Re: New Breed of Beast I like to add some extra Glutamine and Citrulline Malate to my Xtend cocktail that I sip on during training. I certainly feel DOMS when I don't get enough of it, which isn't often. I am looking for the best price as I am increasing my intake of it and need some more soon. __________________ Still going thru life one rep at a time. My training journal.

07-05-2007, 06:56 AM	#99
Bill_Finkbiner Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 406 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 13	Re: New Breed of Beast Wednesday is cardio day on my new routine. I warmed up on the recumbant bike for 5 mins and then did 15 30 sec HIIT sprints. These were blissful torture as usual, but different. I think the Beta-Alanine is really helping here. I was able to sprint a t a higher speed for a longer amount of time during each interval. I followed this with 15 mis on the treadmill at a lower incline than usual due to my legs being TIGHT from the HIIT. The next part is not from my program, but I've got an obsession with training abs. Cable crunches 100x30 100x10 Oblique Crunches 100 (50 each side) Seated Twists 30x200 (100 each side) Thursday is upper body day with higher reps. Gonna get some Cannon Ball Delts!!! __________________ Scivation Athlete TeamScivation.com www.Scivation.com www.primaforce.com Its not a squat unless your ass touches your ankles "If you beat me, it's not because you outworked me!"- Layne Norton

07-05-2007, 02:03 PM	#100
pammiejoe6 Pink Members Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: south texas Posts: 4,172 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 85	Re: New Breed of Beast im gonna try DCP first and then maybe ill try the Xtend....

07-06-2007, 12:41 AM	#103
Bill_Finkbiner Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 406 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 13	Re: New Breed of Beast Todays workout was great. My lats are already sore. VasoXplode was great while dieting, but now that I'm using it with some full glycogen stores, it is amazing. I'm continuing to pose between sets, because you can never be to good at posing, and also that extra squeeze is just another isometric exercise that many of the golden agers believed help bring out separation. Today's pump made me look like a FREAK. The new goal for the Clash is to look as full as I did today with better conditioning and dryer than the Show-Me's. Incline DB Press Close Parallel Grip Lat Pulldowns 45x12 warmup / 130x10 warmup 60x10 / 150x10 70x10 / 160x10 70x10 / 170x10 Flat DB Bench Medium Parallel Grip Seated Row 40x10 warm up / 150x10 warmup 70x10 / 190x10 70x9.5 / 190x10 70x9 / 190x10 I reall liked the medium grip as it hit all of my back equally. Inner/outer/upper/lower. Felt great. Seated DB Shoulder Press Seated DB Shrugs 45x10 / 90x10 50x10 / 90x10 50x10 / 90x10 I chose to do the seated shrugs, because I get a better stretch and it is impossible to cheat. DB Side Laterals 30x10 30x10 30x10 I took the rest times down on these and went for the pump and burn. 1 Arm Cable Laterals 40x10 cable behind back 40x10 cable in front 40x10 cable behind back Again, rests were short. These are rapidly becoming one of my favorite movements. They KILL my medial delts and give me a SICK PUMP. It may take a while, but I'd like to have the mythical 2 to 1 shoulder to waist ratio. I know that my collar bones are pretty narrow, so its all about building these delts. My ending strength goals for this workout: Incline DB Press 85x10 Flat DB Press 80x10 Lat Pulldowns 190x10 Seated Row 205x10 Seated DB Press 60x10 Seated Shrugs 100x10 Laterals and 1 arm cable laterals are form exercises. I hope to advance the weight, but perfecting the form is key After lifting I took 3 Dialene4 waited 10 minutes and di 30 mins of treadmill 21% incline speed 35.-4.2 Sweat like a monsoon. __________________ Scivation Athlete TeamScivation.com www.Scivation.com www.primaforce.com Its not a squat unless your ass touches your ankles "If you beat me, it's not because you outworked me!"- Layne Norton

07-07-2007, 01:49 PM	#104
Bill_Finkbiner Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 406 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 13	Re: New Breed of Beast here's yesterday's workout: Feet Together Hack Squat Standing Calf Raise 2 plates+25x10 / 135x10 2 plates+35x10 / 135x10 3 platesx10 / 135x10 It has been awhile since I've done hack squats and I misjudged the weight today. I will go heavier next time. I chose to do them with my feet together to focus on my outer sweep. Leg Press Leg Press Calf Raise 550x10 / 450x10 550x10 / 495x10 550x10 / 495x10 While leg pressing I began to notice my left leg pushing more of the load than the right. If this continues next week, I will change to a single leg press. Leg Extentions Leg Curl 180x10 / 110x12 185x12 / 110x12 185x12 / 110x12 Skull Crushers Db Curls 65x10 / 40x10 65x10 / 40x10 65x10 / 40x10 Leg Raises Incline Crunches 20x10 / 25 12 20x12 / 35x12 20x12 / 35x12 Then it was some D4 and 20 mins on the treadmill 21% incline speed 3.5-4.2 One thing that I've noticed over the past few week, is that the delivery guys for the companies that supply the Diner have HUGE calves. I'm pretty sure it's from the many times a day they push product up and down the ramps of their trucks. I need to find a way to duplicate that on the treadmill, or by some other means, because everyone of these guys has HUGE calves. __________________ Scivation Athlete TeamScivation.com www.Scivation.com www.primaforce.com Its not a squat unless your ass touches your ankles "If you beat me, it's not because you outworked me!"- Layne Norton

07-07-2007, 05:00 PM	#105
Crader IronMass Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 527 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 40	Re: New Breed of Beast One thing that I've noticed over the past few week, is that the delivery guys for the companies that supply the Diner have HUGE calves. I'm pretty sure it's from the many times a day they push product up and down the ramps of their trucks. I need to find a way to duplicate that on the treadmill, or by some other means, because everyone of these guys has HUGE calves. Can you do powerlifting sled pulls?