Cereal never tasted so good! - Page 2

**A.FreeRadical** · 08-14-2005, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GameDayDog

Now that I see how easy it is to measure your food and to know how big the servings are and the amount of protein/carbs/fats in each meal.. I can see why you'd rarely want to eat out... I'd have never thought measuring my food could be fun... You'd thynk I'm weighing my portions to lose weight, but it helps bulkers too...

Peace..~G

Are you ready to try to cook a chicken breast yet?

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GameDayDog · 08-14-2005, 02:56 AM

Nope... not yet..

Gonna be styckin' 2 Tuna for a whyle... If I do want some chicken, I may stop at the market and get it already rotisseried... I used to buy 3 or 4 of 'em and put 'em in the freezer...

Shipping costs on supplements..
Hard to fynd quality food items..

Pretty much the only gripes I have about living overseas...

Peace..~G
My sig says it all...

joed · 08-15-2005, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dbflgirl

Hey, I think Joed joined as r8rrob! LOL.

<Lurk: Off> Pics! <Lurk: On>

**dbflgirl** · 08-15-2005, 12:13 PM

Yay! It's the real Joed!!!

WELCOME

**dbflgirl** · 08-15-2005, 12:14 PM

P.S. The terms for pics haven't changed...

joed · 08-15-2005, 03:12 PM

Yes it's me & pics are still on my mind. Thanks for the welcome.

RealFantasy · 08-15-2005, 03:16 PM

Hey Joed!!
WHATS HAPPENING!!?? Nice to see you here, and
WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME!

Glad to see you Joed, I have been thinking of you and was wondering if you would ever wonder over and join.

Brenda

joed · 08-15-2005, 03:21 PM

RealFantasy: thanks. From your...PIC...looks like you'll be Fitbyfifty.

RealFantasy · 08-15-2005, 03:38 PM

Joed I am soooo glad to see you here!

Start a journal and we can all welcome you formally. I am sure that there is a lot of us that would like too.

Brenda

RealFantasy · 08-16-2005, 04:07 PM

Speaking of cereal. Are you allowed to eat the whole grain cereals like, Cheerios with strawberries, or Honey Bunches of Oats with fruit?
There are no bad fats in them, the sugars are not that high, probably lower than you get with natural fruit. I see nothing that would effect the eating here, but there may be something I am missing, so that is why I am asking.

Brenda

**dbflgirl** · 08-16-2005, 05:27 PM

I eat cereal for a cheat. You know, there are no rules about nutrition. I mean, I feel funny saying you can eat this or you cannot eat that. It comes down to a few things:

First, what are your goals? A person who is beginning to lose weight has a lot more lattitude than someone who is already at maintenance and is looking to get competition ready. If you (not you specifically, the generic 'you') used to eat bacon fried in lard, home fries and 4 whole eggs for breakfast, then clearly Cheerios with Strawberries and some egg whites is going to be a huge improvement. On the other hand, if you're already at your goal weight and are looking to get rid of that last bit of bodyfat (you know, the bit that simply won't budge from your hips/abs/butt/whatever), then oatmeal would be a better choice. And yes, no matter what your goals oatmeal is a healthier choice, but not every morsel you eat has to be the absolute best choice. It's ok to sometimes just make good choices.

Second: How do you, as an individual, respond to Cheerios with strawberries? This is dependent on your age, insulin sensitivity, metabolic rate, health issues, etc., etc. Some people can lose bodyfat eating things that others cannot. And some people are so convinced that a particular food will sabotage them (dairy and carbs are two that come to mind) that it almost becomes self-fulfilling.

Ok, so why do I reserve cereal for a cheat? Because I want to keep my bodyfat low (I want abs). Most cereal is very processed, which simply means that it's more or less "empty" nutrition (the vitamins are added in after the fact and tend to be of low quality -- they're there just so the manufacturer can claim "a full day's worth of Vitamin C!" or whatever). In addition, highly processed foods are less thermic than less processed foods, so you tend to become hungry again sooner.

But that's just me... it doesn't have to be you.

RealFantasy · 08-16-2005, 06:08 PM

Well I want abs too!

So, for now, I will not chose the cereals I asked about. Once these abs start showing progess I will go from there. It's not that I eat the cereals, I was just reading the labels and thought they did not sound bad. But, I also don't want high processed foods in my diet, so it's definitely out of the question! I will stick to oatmeal and skim milk. I want the abs out of the kitchen as I have said before. So, only the good stuff for me!

Thanks for responding!

Brenda

**A.FreeRadical** · 08-16-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dbflgirl

Ok, so why do I reserve cereal for a cheat? Because I want to keep my bodyfat low (I want abs). Most cereal is very processed, which simply means that it's more or less "empty" nutrition (the vitamins are added in after the fact and tend to be of low quality -- they're there just so the manufacturer can claim "a full day's worth of Vitamin C!" or whatever). In addition, highly processed foods are less thermic than less processed foods, so you tend to become hungry again sooner.

But that's just me... it doesn't have to be you.

We should start an "I want abs" club.

I agree but come to a different choice. I eat 3 whole eggs every morning. Sometimes with parmesan cheese in an omelet and sometimes fried over easy (always in extra virgin olive oil) with a sourdough English muffin w/ butter (that is my twice per week cheat breakfast).

To each his own in moderations.

I am now up to 2600 calories per day and still maintaining. (I had a vegetarian pizza (3 slices) last night for my twice per week cheat dinner.) I wonder how far I can push this. hmmmm.

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**dbflgirl** · 08-16-2005, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by A.FreeRadical

We should start an "I want abs" club.

I agree but come to a different choice. I eat 3 whole eggs every morning. Sometimes with parmesan cheese in an omelet and sometimes fried over easy (always in extra virgin olive oil) with a sourdough English muffin w/ butter (that is my twice per week cheat breakfast).

To each his own in moderations.

I think it's the same choice. It's a matter of choosing your moderations. I eat an omelet every morning too, only mine is 1 whole egg and 3 egg whites. I put this nice, creamy goat cheese in it.

So this is an indulgence of sorts, as it is fairly high in saturated fat. But... since I don't eat meat, it fits in with my day, as the rest of my meals are pretty much free of saturated fats.

That said, I think that whole eggs are a healthier choice than cheerios. I know the cholesterol police won't agree but for me, a lot of it comes down to: does this food exist in nature? Eggs do. Cheerios don't. Eggs contain nutrients my body can use. Cheerios don't (any vitamins are added, not naturally occurring).

<off soapbox>

I cook everything in extra virgin olive oil

**EME** · 08-16-2005, 09:39 PM

I'd like to post my latest $ 0.02, and say that since Saturday....

Pizza, Dairy Queen Cookie Dough Blizzards, and Cheeseburgers have never tasted so good!

I'll be back to my lean bulking diet in a few days though. The fun can't last forever.

I have to get back to work as soon as I get all this Pro Tan scrubbed off!

- EME

**A.FreeRadical** · 08-16-2005, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dbflgirl

I cook everything in extra virgin olive oil

Atta girl.

Speaking of moderations, I have decided to have a baked potato tonight. I can't remember the last time I had one. I'll still be under 75 grams of carbs for the day.

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08-14-2005, 02:56 AM	#32
GameDayDog The Dawg Is Back!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Doin Compound Movements 4 Scooby Snacks! Posts: 1,914 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 32	Styckin' 2 Tuna... Nope... not yet.. Gonna be styckin' 2 Tuna for a whyle... If I do want some chicken, I may stop at the market and get it already rotisseried... I used to buy 3 or 4 of 'em and put 'em in the freezer... Shipping costs on supplements.. Hard to fynd quality food items.. Pretty much the only gripes I have about living overseas... Peace..~G My sig says it all... __________________ I am Thee Alpha.. RaSP is Thee oMEGA.. Between the 2 of us - We have everythyng covered... I want to be bigger than all the humans!! "I'm sure I should be doing cardio too....but I don't run from anything...so why practice?" - 1stInDoor Goal - 200#'s 5/27/07 - 4/27/07 - 175# 3/27/07 - 167#

08-16-2005, 04:07 PM	#40
RealFantasy Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 684 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 10	Speaking of cereal. Are you allowed to eat the whole grain cereals like, Cheerios with strawberries, or Honey Bunches of Oats with fruit? There are no bad fats in them, the sugars are not that high, probably lower than you get with natural fruit. I see nothing that would effect the eating here, but there may be something I am missing, so that is why I am asking. Brenda __________________ Brenda's FitDay

08-16-2005, 06:08 PM	#42
RealFantasy Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 684 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 10	Well I want abs too! So, for now, I will not chose the cereals I asked about. Once these abs start showing progess I will go from there. It's not that I eat the cereals, I was just reading the labels and thought they did not sound bad. But, I also don't want high processed foods in my diet, so it's definitely out of the question! I will stick to oatmeal and skim milk. I want the abs out of the kitchen as I have said before. So, only the good stuff for me! Thanks for responding! Brenda __________________ Brenda's FitDay

08-16-2005, 09:39 PM	#45
EME Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,265 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 51	I'd like to post my latest $ 0.02, and say that since Saturday.... Pizza, Dairy Queen Cookie Dough Blizzards, and Cheeseburgers have never tasted so good! I'll be back to my lean bulking diet in a few days though. The fun can't last forever. I have to get back to work as soon as I get all this Pro Tan scrubbed off! - EME __________________ PhysiqueFXonline - Online Nutrition and Training with Michael and Kendra Elias: www.MichaelandKendra.com Team Molecular Nutrition Creative Director FAME Media Group / World Natural Sports Organization Editor-In-Chief FAME Magazine www.FAMEWorldTour.com

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dbflgirl Silver Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 646 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 19	Yay! It's the real Joed!!! WELCOME

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joed Pro Stature Join Date: May 2005 Location: More than a mile high Posts: 187 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Yes it's me & pics are still on my mind. Thanks for the welcome.

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RealFantasy Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 684 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 10	Hey Joed!! WHATS HAPPENING!!?? Nice to see you here, and WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME! Glad to see you Joed, I have been thinking of you and was wondering if you would ever wonder over and join. Brenda

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joed Pro Stature Join Date: May 2005 Location: More than a mile high Posts: 187 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	RealFantasy: thanks. From your...PIC...looks like you'll be Fitbyfifty.

08-15-2005, 03:38 PM	#39
RealFantasy Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 684 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 10	Joed I am soooo glad to see you here! Start a journal and we can all welcome you formally. I am sure that there is a lot of us that would like too. Brenda

08-16-2005, 05:27 PM	#41
dbflgirl Silver Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 646 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 19	I eat cereal for a cheat. You know, there are no rules about nutrition. I mean, I feel funny saying you can eat this or you cannot eat that. It comes down to a few things: First, what are your goals? A person who is beginning to lose weight has a lot more lattitude than someone who is already at maintenance and is looking to get competition ready. If you (not you specifically, the generic 'you') used to eat bacon fried in lard, home fries and 4 whole eggs for breakfast, then clearly Cheerios with Strawberries and some egg whites is going to be a huge improvement. On the other hand, if you're already at your goal weight and are looking to get rid of that last bit of bodyfat (you know, the bit that simply won't budge from your hips/abs/butt/whatever), then oatmeal would be a better choice. And yes, no matter what your goals oatmeal is a healthier choice, but not every morsel you eat has to be the absolute best choice. It's ok to sometimes just make good choices. Second: How do you, as an individual, respond to Cheerios with strawberries? This is dependent on your age, insulin sensitivity, metabolic rate, health issues, etc., etc. Some people can lose bodyfat eating things that others cannot. And some people are so convinced that a particular food will sabotage them (dairy and carbs are two that come to mind) that it almost becomes self-fulfilling. Ok, so why do I reserve cereal for a cheat? Because I want to keep my bodyfat low (I want abs). Most cereal is very processed, which simply means that it's more or less "empty" nutrition (the vitamins are added in after the fact and tend to be of low quality -- they're there just so the manufacturer can claim "a full day's worth of Vitamin C!" or whatever). In addition, highly processed foods are less thermic than less processed foods, so you tend to become hungry again sooner. But that's just me... it doesn't have to be you.