Results of DCers

nextteenamateur · 12-13-2005, 05:19 PM

Here're mine:
Started 3 months ago at 146, am now at 172. Pretty much the exact same BF, and a HELL of a lot stronger.

**schroeder** · 12-13-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nextteenamateur

Here're mine:
Started 3 months ago at 146, am not at 172. Pretty much the exact same BF, and a HELL of a lot stronger.

PLEASE elaborate.....diet/supp/AAS/experience

nextteenamateur · 12-13-2005, 05:58 PM

Diet wise I just started pounding the protein. Went from averaging 130g a day to 300g a day at least. I have actually used less supps since all my money goes to protein powder and oats it seems like. Never used AAS, but am going to run Superdrol/Sesamin in a few months. Lifted for two years before making the switch to DC training. Previously I lifted 5 days a week with pretty high volume.

**powerman2000** · 12-13-2005, 06:06 PM

I believe the bw gains and the strength increase, but I gotta tell ya that nobody is gonna believe your bf is still the same. Just thought I'd let ya know.

Nobody is gonna gain over 20 lbs of pure muscle in just 3 months, even if they were using gear.

**MurphMan** · 12-13-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

I believe the bw gains and the strength increase, but I gotta tell ya that nobody is gonna believe your bf is still the same. Just thought I'd let ya know.

Nobody is gonna gain over 20 lbs of pure muscle in just 3 months, even if they were using gear.

It is possible for newbies on AAS to achieve such gains, I gained 36 pounds of mass on my first cycle, of which I retained around 20lbs.....can't remember exactly, but I have a log from way back when, prior to my accident. It's over at *ahem* bb.com in the cycle logs. I will dig it up if anyone wants to read it....

nextteenamateur · 12-13-2005, 07:41 PM

My BF isn't the same, my BF%. I have gained fat, but I still read out as the same BF%.

**Peaked_18** · 12-13-2005, 08:06 PM

NTA, how old are you?

nextteenamateur · 12-13-2005, 08:32 PM

19 on Sunday

sword chucks · 12-15-2005, 02:21 PM

i am having pretty good mass and strength gains but only 3 weeks in to it

**NYCmitch25** · 12-15-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nextteenamateur

Here're mine:
Started 3 months ago at 146, am now at 172. Pretty much the exact same BF, and a HELL of a lot stronger.

Yes, its rare but possible for a young lifter to see big gains. Also ppl coming back from a long layoff & meso's of coarse. However, those results arent going to be typical. To be honest it probably has little to do with DC per say more to do with being dedicated, good diet, solid routine (DC), etc. for the first time in your life. There are a number of good routines which would yield you the same results.

Good luck!

**BobThePotato** · 12-16-2005, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCmitch25

To be honest it probably has little to do with DC per say more to do with being dedicated, good diet, solid routine (DC), etc. for the first time in your life. There are a number of good routines which would yield you the same results.

my thoughts exactly

Allen · 12-27-2005, 12:50 AM

I've been doing DC for sheeit...I forget how long. Probably near two years now, ever since it became widely popular on the internet and I first learned about Dante. I went from 206 (I believe I remember that correctly) and around 12% (Like I said...I think...LOL) to 258 and a little over 20% bodyfat (my fatass fault). Not a miracle worker like some make it out to be but it's the best bodybuilding program I've come across.

SonnyTheBull · 12-28-2005, 02:40 PM

I've been DC training since Oct of last year. I started with a pretty high bf (maybe 18% - 20%) at 172 than got up to 202 by Feb of 2005, bf stayed pretty much the same. I continued to DC train while I leaned out a bit. Still kept my protein high but increased my cardio alot. Went from 202 in Mar. to 169 by Sept. Lost a good amount of fat. I even made PR's while cutting down. For instance at that time my PR for floor deads was 350lbs x 4 @ 200lbs weight. I hit 365lbs x 4 @ 172lbs. I'm now back on track weighing in at 192lbs around 14% bf. DC training is the best program I've come across. I get stronger every week. Plan on hitting 220lbs before I bring the cardio in for the summer.

**MurphMan** · 12-28-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SonnyTheBull

I've been DC training since Oct of last year. I started with a pretty high bf (maybe 18% - 20%) at 172 than got up to 202 by Feb of 2005, bf stayed pretty much the same. I continued to DC train while I leaned out a bit. Still kept my protein high but increased my cardio alot. Went from 202 in Mar. to 169 by Sept. Lost a good amount of fat. I even made PR's while cutting down. For instance at that time my PR for floor deads was 350lbs x 4 @ 200lbs weight. I hit 365lbs x 4 @ 172lbs. I'm now back on track weighing in at 192lbs around 14% bf. DC training is the best program I've come across. I get stronger every week. Plan on hitting 220lbs before I bring the cardio in for the summer.

How long had you been training before you started the DC?

SonnyTheBull · 12-28-2005, 02:48 PM

Around two years prior to beginning DC. Altough the first year I didn't have much knowledge of how to train or eat. I downloaded some workout plan from somewhere off the web. Might of been BB.com. Than I started to do alot of research on the forums, BB.com and IntenseMuscle. I tried MaxOT training for 6 months prior to beginning DC.

**MurphMan** · 12-28-2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SonnyTheBull

Around two years prior to beginning DC. Altough the first year I didn't have much knowledge of how to train or eat. I downloaded some workout plan from somewhere off the web. Might of been BB.com. Than I started to do alot of research on the forums, BB.com and IntenseMuscle. I tried MaxOT training for 6 months prior to beginning DC.

Sounds good man........I'm still amazed at the results that people are claiming from DC. They ALL say they are getting gains that are equal or more than what people say they get off of gear. I want to see someone use gear and do DC at the same time!

SonnyTheBull · 12-28-2005, 03:09 PM

I have to admit I have done a Superdrol cycle and MaxLMG/Prostan while leaning out. I also used a MaxLMG/Prostan cycle while I began gaining again. I also am planning a PheraPlex/Prostan cycle for the beginning of Feb. This will be my first methyl cycle while eating heavy. Hopefully I'll see some good gains.:fingersxd

**MurphMan** · 12-28-2005, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SonnyTheBull

I have to admit I have done a Superdrol cycle and MaxLMG/Prostan while leaning out. I also used a MaxLMG/Prostan cycle while I began gaining again. I also am planning a PheraPlex/Prostan cycle for the beginning of Feb. This will be my first methyl cycle while eating heavy. Hopefully I'll see some good gains.:fingersxd

Ahhha........!

I knew sumtin was up!

SonnyTheBull · 12-28-2005, 03:24 PM

ZackMurphy · 12-28-2005, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MurphMan

.....I'm still amazed at the results that people are claiming from DC.

This is true - people are getting good results, and that's great. But for most, DC is the first well-structured plan they've ever done.

Almost everyone in the gym THINKS they're doing a good program, periodizing, planning, scaling their workouts, etc., but very few are actually cycling effectively, and most are in horrible ruts punctuated by occasional gains. (Instead of consistent gains punctuated by occasional ruts)

Take an experienced lifter who has 2-5 years under his belt, and take his good program away, give him DC - sure, he'll still gain. DC forces excellent levels of muscular fatigue and overload. But he's not going to gain like a newbie all over again. Not 25# in 3 months like NTA. That's just standard teen-for-the-first-time-on-a-real-program gains.

I did DC about 1-1 1/2 years ago, and I liked it very much and make some nice progress, but the progress wasn't disporportionate to the progress I was making on my normal program. So I treat DC as I do any other program - a good, solid program, and a great phase for any lifter to use now and then. But not the holy grail. One of the better ones, though. It does lots of things well (prevents overtraining, good warmups, good rep ranges, limited maxing, etc.).

I will say this, though - I feel a training partner is absolutely mandatory for DC to be done right. You can't go to failure over and over again without a spotter there to help force reps and spot last reps. Training DC alone is a great way to kill the point of the program.

Murphy out.

**MurphMan** · 12-28-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ZackMurphy

This is true - people are getting good results, and that's great. But for most, DC is the first well-structured plan they've ever done.

Almost everyone in the gym THINKS they're doing a good program, periodizing, planning, scaling their workouts, etc., but very few are actually cycling effectively, and most are in horrible ruts punctuated by occasional gains. (Instead of consistent gains punctuated by occasional ruts)

Take an experienced lifter who has 2-5 years under his belt, and take his good program away, give him DC - sure, he'll still gain. DC forces excellent levels of muscular fatigue and overload. But he's not going to gain like a newbie all over again. Not 25# in 3 months like NTA. That's just standard teen-for-the-first-time-on-a-real-program gains.

I did DC about 1-1 1/2 years ago, and I liked it very much and make some nice progress, but the progress wasn't disporportionate to the progress I was making on my normal program. So I treat DC as I do any other program - a good, solid program, and a great phase for any lifter to use now and then. But not the holy grail. One of the better ones, though. It does lots of things well (prevents overtraining, good warmups, good rep ranges, limited maxing, etc.).

I will say this, though - I feel a training partner is absolutely mandatory for DC to be done right. You can't go to failure over and over again without a spotter there to help force reps and spot last reps. Training DC alone is a great way to kill the point of the program.

Murphy out.

I was going to say something similar, but I have learned not to argue with DC'ers because they get so offended. Most of them I know of are young lifters that look up to Dante like a God and think he got that way just from DC. Just look at the dudes face in the close up of him in his backyard...........that guy is on alot of juice. There is no mistaking it once you know what people look like when on gear. I don't mean to start another argument, but people need to know the truth.

Here's the pic I'm talking about......and if you haven't used gear or know people who do, don't come here and start arguing with me!
http://ironmass.com/forums/attachmen...2&d=1114480063<

12-13-2005, 05:19 PM	#1
nextteenamateur Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clemson, SC Posts: 336 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Results of DCers Here're mine: Started 3 months ago at 146, am now at 172. Pretty much the exact same BF, and a HELL of a lot stronger. Last edited by nextteenamateur : 12-13-2005 at 05:58 PM.

12-13-2005, 06:06 PM	#4
powerman2000 The Old Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,084 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 197	I believe the bw gains and the strength increase, but I gotta tell ya that nobody is gonna believe your bf is still the same. Just thought I'd let ya know. Nobody is gonna gain over 20 lbs of pure muscle in just 3 months, even if they were using gear. __________________ Don't forget to periodize Best BP 507 lbs competitive Best Squat 705 lbs competitive Best DL 650 lbs competitive Guns don't kill people, men who come home early do. My workout log http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6247

12-13-2005, 05:58 PM	#3
nextteenamateur Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clemson, SC Posts: 336 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Diet wise I just started pounding the protein. Went from averaging 130g a day to 300g a day at least. I have actually used less supps since all my money goes to protein powder and oats it seems like. Never used AAS, but am going to run Superdrol/Sesamin in a few months. Lifted for two years before making the switch to DC training. Previously I lifted 5 days a week with pretty high volume.

12-13-2005, 07:41 PM	#6
nextteenamateur Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clemson, SC Posts: 336 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	My BF isn't the same, my BF%. I have gained fat, but I still read out as the same BF%.

12-13-2005, 08:06 PM	#7
Peaked_18 a la commode Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,247 Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96	NTA, how old are you?

12-13-2005, 08:32 PM	#8
nextteenamateur Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clemson, SC Posts: 336 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	19 on Sunday

12-15-2005, 02:21 PM	#9
sword chucks Pro Stature Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: in orange T-shirt Posts: 277 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	i am having pretty good mass and strength gains but only 3 weeks in to it

12-27-2005, 12:50 AM	#12
Allen New Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 9 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	I've been doing DC for sheeit...I forget how long. Probably near two years now, ever since it became widely popular on the internet and I first learned about Dante. I went from 206 (I believe I remember that correctly) and around 12% (Like I said...I think...LOL) to 258 and a little over 20% bodyfat (my fatass fault). Not a miracle worker like some make it out to be but it's the best bodybuilding program I've come across.

12-28-2005, 02:40 PM	#13
SonnyTheBull Amateur Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	I've been DC training since Oct of last year. I started with a pretty high bf (maybe 18% - 20%) at 172 than got up to 202 by Feb of 2005, bf stayed pretty much the same. I continued to DC train while I leaned out a bit. Still kept my protein high but increased my cardio alot. Went from 202 in Mar. to 169 by Sept. Lost a good amount of fat. I even made PR's while cutting down. For instance at that time my PR for floor deads was 350lbs x 4 @ 200lbs weight. I hit 365lbs x 4 @ 172lbs. I'm now back on track weighing in at 192lbs around 14% bf. DC training is the best program I've come across. I get stronger every week. Plan on hitting 220lbs before I bring the cardio in for the summer.

12-28-2005, 02:48 PM	#15
SonnyTheBull Amateur Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Around two years prior to beginning DC. Altough the first year I didn't have much knowledge of how to train or eat. I downloaded some workout plan from somewhere off the web. Might of been BB.com. Than I started to do alot of research on the forums, BB.com and IntenseMuscle. I tried MaxOT training for 6 months prior to beginning DC.

12-28-2005, 03:09 PM	#17
SonnyTheBull Amateur Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	I have to admit I have done a Superdrol cycle and MaxLMG/Prostan while leaning out. I also used a MaxLMG/Prostan cycle while I began gaining again. I also am planning a PheraPlex/Prostan cycle for the beginning of Feb. This will be my first methyl cycle while eating heavy. Hopefully I'll see some good gains.:fingersxd

12-28-2005, 03:24 PM	#19
SonnyTheBull Amateur Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0