More On Overanalyzing

blast_ · 04-30-2007, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DoggCrapp

Bodybuilding is an impatient sport. 175 pound people want to be 250 tommorow and if that was just a 75 pounds of lard fat gain (without an ounce of muscle mass) that would probably take you what? 2 years to gain 75 pounds of fat? Think about that for a second. (Its all about time in)

My point ties in to many things talked about, most recently by BDU.....about living an eclectic lifestyle where bodybuilding makes up 10% of who you are.

The people who are so self obsessed that they think about this sport for 24 hours straight and pass up jobs, opportunities, relationships and basic fun in life (in my opinion and experience) are doomed for failure. Ive seen it too many times to count.

Busy people dont have time to second guess their training every 6 days. If they are in the right progressive training/eating program, they turn around a year later and are 15-25lbs larger because they went + got the job done over time. (ahhhh TIME, if more people realized thats the answer instead of wondering why your arms didnt grow an inch the last 3 weeks)

Young guys who make decisions like "im going to forgo college to concentrate on my bodybuilding" overanalyze and worry every 6 days that "oh maybe im not doing this right", "maybe that will work better over there", "that latest article said such and such, should I be doing that?"....the continual search for something magical as if they would hit on something and explode into Jay Cutler proportions in a couple weeks. In this situation that all important hidden factor (time in) never gets accomplished because the 6 months needed to make major changes becomes second guessing and changing of everything every 6 days.

What I was trying to do in this thread was to have some overanalyzer guys who might be reading this thread give me the answers to the questions themselves....so they can think back next time and ponder why they arent listening to their own deductive reasoning.

Bodybuilding comes with risk factors, it always bugs me when I see people thinking this endeavor should be safe as sitting on the couch watching TV. To get really good at this endeavor you are going to have to do some things that arent always comfortable and (god forbid avoidance to the best of your ability) risk an injury.

There is a reason why Johnnie Jacksons pecs look 6 inches thick, and his traps look insane. There is a reason why Branch Warren has that ungodly amount of thickness. There is a reason why Dorian came on the scene and tipped over the apple cart bypassing everyone in brutal thickness. There is a reason why Ronnie ruled the roost for so long. The times when most pro's trained progressively up thru their heaviest weights is usually the time when you saw them at their absolute peak in muscle size.

I always get a chuckle at a pro who starts talking about his current training as "best gains ever" when everyone fully knows that they built all their size a certain way. Craig Titus was an example of this....he built up all his size going up to large poundages in his early years (including 500lb bench presses) and then later on went with "blood volume training" + and the typical "best gains ever!" and then competed at roughly the same size for the last decade. His chest when he was doing the very heavy barbell work was much better/thicker than it was in his latter years.

From Mike Francois to Trey Brewer, unless you have genetics handed down from God himself (Paul Dillett etc) a powerlifting/ progressive weight mentality builds the biggest thickest bodybuilder your genetic blueprint allows.
As I hit on earlier there is a risk factor in all this, Branch Warren, Ronnie Coleman, Yates and others had injuries. You want to be the big man on the block? Well getting under a bar with scary weight on there is part of that equation and sometimes the consequence of that doesnt go as planned. Hopefully you will never have to go thru something like that.

Do you really think if you ate your way up to 240-280 pounds and made yourself the strongest guy in your gym or the 10 closest gyms, in squats, deadlifts, inclines, reverse grip presses, shoulder presses, hamstrings, calves, biceps, rows in good safe form for 12-20 reps rest paused.......that your going to be small?
As stupid and simple as that sounds think about the number of people who bypass that thought completely and are still searching for the golden fleece and something "magical"

Amen.

**skelooth** · 04-30-2007, 12:47 AM

**romanaz** · 04-30-2007, 02:53 AM

**BigZeke** · 04-30-2007, 09:36 AM

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Do you really think if you ate your way up to 240-280 pounds and made yourself the strongest guy in your gym or the 10 closest gyms, in squats, deadlifts, inclines, reverse grip presses, shoulder presses, hamstrings, calves, biceps, rows in good safe form for 12-20 reps rest paused.......that your going to be small?

+1000000000000000

**DJSTARER** · 05-01-2007, 03:38 AM

i like that guy. always write good motivational shit. it's all about progression, nothing else.

04-30-2007, 12:47 AM	#2
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 8,032 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 160	Re: More On Overanalyzing Amen __________________

05-01-2007, 03:38 AM	#5
DJSTARER Writing Staff Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 3,910 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 109	Re: More On Overanalyzing i like that guy. always write good motivational shit. it's all about progression, nothing else. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: Total 1400 in competition

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