Jay Cutler - A Cut Above (Machines?)

Vanchatron · 04-24-2007, 03:17 AM

I've been watching "Jay Cutler - A Cut Above" & he seems to use machines a lot of the time when training.

I'm just guessing here but I take it that it's because he's big enough already (he mentions this at the start) and just wants to improve (symetry etc) on the muscles he already has?

I know that machines can have their purpose in a bodybuilding regime but it just seemed odd that somebody like Cutler used them so much.

Also, does anybody have any idea what type of training he did to actually get to his size or close to it? Not that I'm gonna even attempt to do it, but I just want to know if he stuck with free weights whilst bulking up and then as I said above, just used machines to improve on the muscles he already had.

HK

**bubba g** · 04-24-2007, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanchatron

I've been watching "Jay Cutler - A Cut Above" & he seems to use machines a lot of the time when training.

I'm just guessing here but I take it that it's because he's big enough already (he mentions this at the start) and just wants to improve (symetry etc) on the muscles he already has?

I know that machines can have their purpose in a bodybuilding regime but it just seemed odd that somebody like Cutler used them so much.

Also, does anybody have any idea what type of training he did to actually get to his size or close to it? Not that I'm gonna even attempt to do it, but I just want to know if he stuck with free weights whilst bulking up and then as I said above, just used machines to improve on the muscles he already had.

HK

A lot of the pros use many machines. People with genetics like Cutler or top IFBB pros would add lots of mass doing any exercises that stimulate their muscles. I wouldn't try to follow thier routines, and instead experiment, and try what works for you.

Vanchatron · 04-24-2007, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba g

A lot of the pros use many machines. People with genetics like Cutler or top IFBB pros would add lots of mass doing any exercises that stimulate their muscles. I wouldn't try to follow thier routines, and instead experiment, and try what works for you.

I never thought about their genetics being the reason, good point. I just assumed that seeing as he was a pro & new a hell of a lot about bodybuilding that he wouldn't rely on machines as much as he is in the video, but it's obviously working for him.

Thanks for answering my question.

HK

**romanaz** · 04-24-2007, 04:18 AM

I still like that, out of all the big guys, Coleman, Cutler, Levrone etc... Ronnie is the only one you see doing squats and deadlifts.

**bubba g** · 04-24-2007, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanchatron

I never thought about their genetics being the reason, good point. I just assumed that seeing as he was a pro & new a hell of a lot about bodybuilding that he wouldn't rely on machines as much as he is in the video, but it's obviously working for him.

Thanks for answering my question.

HK

No problem. Another thing to consider most top guys have been lifting consistantly for a minimum of 12 years some as much as 20 after all that time heavy lifting I am sure their joints appreciate machines, and they are also probably trying to keep the muscle guessing so to speak.. adding variety to their workouts.

When the cameras are off. Most pros routines are nothing special..

Vanchatron · 04-24-2007, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by romanaz

I still like that, out of all the big guys, Coleman, Cutler, Levrone etc... Ronnie is the only one you see doing squats and deadlifts.

Jay Cutler did a set of deadlifts in this DVD

Although he wasn't going to the ground which I thought was odd, it was a sort of half assed deadlift.

HK

Vanchatron · 04-24-2007, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba g

When the cameras are off. Most pros routines are nothing special..

I was actually thinking "hmm I wonder if this is actually what his routine is like" when I was watching the DVD.

HK

**Trick D** · 04-24-2007, 04:28 AM

From my knowledge... many pros like Ruhl and Cutler add some machines in there because they aren't trying to get bigger muscles. They all believe that free weights are the key, but they feel that they have the muscle, it is the conditioning and making the muscle look good while in full condition. That is why pros use machines.

Branch warren, Johnnie Jackson, Ronnie, and many other still do the freeweights hardcore. Those three are probably the best powerbuilders in the business.

**bubba g** · 04-24-2007, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Trick D

From my knowledge... many pros like Ruhl and Cutler add some machines in there because they aren't trying to get bigger muscles. They all believe that free weights are the key, but they feel that they have the muscle, it is the conditioning and making the muscle look good while in full condition. That is why pros use machines.

Branch warren, Johnnie Jackson, Ronnie, and many other still do the freeweights hardcore. Those three are probably the best powerbuilders in the business.

They all use a fair amount of machines as well...

**Jayhawkk** · 04-24-2007, 12:18 PM

Machines seem to be believed as the devil but they have their place just as free weights do.

**powerman2000** · 04-26-2007, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by romanaz

I still like that, out of all the big guys, Coleman, Cutler, Levrone etc... Ronnie is the only one you see doing squats and deadlifts.

I guess he's not as concerned about his longevity.

**powerman2000** · 04-26-2007, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawkk

Machines seem to be believed as the devil but they have their place just as free weights do.

That depends on the machine in question.

Rog447 · 08-23-2007, 03:16 AM

Yes cutler does use alot of machine...and some unique exercises (like the standing row with tricep rope) like others said there not trying to put on muscle mass that close to a show there going for contraction.

**antihero** · 08-25-2007, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanchatron

I've been watching "Jay Cutler - A Cut Above" & he seems to use machines a lot of the time when training.

I'm just guessing here but I take it that it's because he's big enough already (he mentions this at the start) and just wants to improve (symetry etc) on the muscles he already has?

I know that machines can have their purpose in a bodybuilding regime but it just seemed odd that somebody like Cutler used them so much.

Also, does anybody have any idea what type of training he did to actually get to his size or close to it? Not that I'm gonna even attempt to do it, but I just want to know if he stuck with free weights whilst bulking up and then as I said above, just used machines to improve on the muscles he already had.

HK

you've also gotta consider the fact that these videos are done during olympia contest preparation. that makes a big difference in the way they train as well.

**haiz69** · 08-27-2007, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by antihero

you've also gotta consider the fact that these videos are done during olympia contest preparation. that makes a big difference in the way they train as well.

Good point. When dieting down, he is certainly going to be using more machines to try and avoid injury.

**romanaz** · 08-27-2007, 06:57 PM

ronnie was doing 800lb deadlifts a few weeks outta the olympia, and I think it was Johnnie Jackson doing a PL meet before contests too...

with great risks comes great rewards

**NNTB** · 08-27-2007, 07:46 PM

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with great risks comes great rewards

i mean...

04-24-2007, 03:17 AM	#1
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